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IMAGINE I HAVE GEORGE BUSH'S JOB ON SEPTEMBER 12, 2001! So what do I do as a SENSIBLE PERSON to win against Bin Laden and not create chaos (10 steps)?


I'm just re-reading Sy Hersch's Chain of Command:  From 9/11 to Abu Ghraib. Although I first read it in Baghdad,  I am reminded that the response to terror (Afghanistan theater) was also screwed up utterly (in ways sometimes like in Iraq, and sometimes not comparable).

 

If I had been Bush,  this is what I would have done beginning September 12, 2001 (the first problem I have is the most of my advisors are incompetent, whack jobs, or double-dealers, of course):  

 

1.  It was obvious that it was Al Qaeda, so they're the target.  Don't tell anyone this except maybe 5-10 with greatest need to know.  Ultra-secret and maintain deception throughout about it.

 

2.  Take Wolfowitz's imbecilic idea that Al Qaeda attacks are too complicated in their planning, and thus had to be  hatched by a state/country, not  just some group, and RUN WITH THIS STUPIDITY LIKE THE DICKENS for misdirection purposes:  Officially conclude that it had to be a state and name possible suspects such as:  Iraq, Iran, N. Korea, Syria, Lebanon acting on Syria's behalf, and Venezuela/regional state-supported inter-American "strongmen", and possibly other state actors.  We're not accusing, mind you, just fact-gathering.

 

3. Throw up gigantic smoke screens about carefully checking all this terribly important gotta-be-a-state B.S. and "promote" incompetent Condi to help organize this charade while keeping her in the dark overall.  Hire think tanks to act as mock-prosecutors against each of the phony suspect states one-after-the-next and use a one-state-a-month approach beginning in Jan. or Feb. 2002.  Involve intelligence community and State Dep't in this road show (I may move Powell into the White House while he nominally keeps his main job).  This buys us time all the way till summer or fall of 2002 so we can ostensibly plan a U.N. security council meeting in fall 2002 then to look at the conclusions.  Encourage press to discuss it all!  Emphasize need to be thorough, importance of patience, and how we'll strike back at the state at a time of our choosing, hopefully with U.N. authorization.  If anybody says it's Al Qaeda, then send Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz and if need be Cheney out to say we already know it's a state so stop being on the side of the terrorists by distracting.  Control the risk that Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Feith may go off the reservation through whatever means (Feith is reputed to be an Israeli spy anyway, so one probably wants to move him to Veterans Affairs or some place where he doesn't need a clearance just in case ("This is an extremely important assignment for the country, Doug!" :) ) and pull that clearance just in case.  Richard Perle who has always got his nose in can be controlled by offering him sleazy contracts on one hand and threatening him on the other, carrot and stick.  (I may not realize at first how much Rumsfeld will get in Condi's way, the preening egomaniacal rapscallion, but if/when he doesn't cooperate, I let him know sternly I'll publicly fire him if it happens again.  Since I can't fire Cheney as elected V.P. by the way, I try to figure out if he can really be loyal (probably he can), but if he's too close to Rumsfeld/Israel lobby to be a team player for me, then just freeze him out and he's not on the ticket for 2004 because of his bad health.

 

4.  Admit to myself that my own thoroughly ridiculous ideas about a leaner, lighter military and missile defensewere nothing more than a lazy campaign pipe dream and even if they might somehow have validity, this is by no means the time, so they're off the table for the first term at least.

 

5.  Carefully and very quietly gather actionable intelligence on where Osama is and will be, along with his chief lieutenants/co-conspirators in South Asia and around the globe.  All very routine, of course, but actionable and possibly inolving ground teams.  He may make this easier for me BTW by jumping up and down resenting that he doesn't get the credit.  If he claims credit, write him off as a nobody crackpot exploiting Muslims and further gather intelligence, and even if his people somehow were involved they're not the big fish and it's just laughable and not of real interest to USA.

 

6.  Work quietly on a program to reduce tensions with the Muslim world and some of this will include reigning in Israel's expansionism; so be it - better I get the credit for imposing order than some Dem. who might get elected in 2008!   Also, break down that finance network simultaneously but that's naturally not aimed at anyone in particular and it's the same policy worldwide.  Except we happen to make sure the policy works *real* well for Osama and friends.  Politics: BTW we're not caving in to any Muslim pressure related to 9/11 by reducing sources of tension since we nominally suspect Venezuela/regional "strongmen" and North Korea equally if not more than Muslim countries.. 

 

7.  Build on initial positive post-9/11 sense of common purpose with allies/potential allies.  Don't bully and encircle Russia, for example.  So "20th hijacker" Moussaoui is a French citizen and the French find death penalty inconceivable and utterly offensive no matter what the crime?  No prob. - no death penalty for the murderous swine then, but please help us out, okay, France?  I/we also give some of those suspect countries like Syria and maybe even Iran and Iraq a chance to show us how goody-two-shoes they really are, if they like.  Maybe there are quiet ways they can help and thus prove it's not them, whatever.

 

8.  Do some joint exercises as to how to deal with the villain state once it's found.  These could be in e.g. NATO countries, Ukraine, ex-Yugoslavia, Oceania (maybe do a repeat in the Americas) probably not closer than those places to Afghanistan (and indeed nowhere near its borders).  Drum up interest as to which state it might be from that phony list, what kind of clothing soldiers will need to travel to that state and fight, language considerations, climate, all sorts of baloney to LULL THE PERPETRATOR INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY/INDETECTION.  Pump up the importance of what it's like to go against a state's armed forces on the field of battle as further misdirection.  (The exercise locations can have a disguised operational purpose as to no. 9 below if needed.)  Later on tell the poor shmoes who hosted exercises how bloody useful it was BTW.

 

9.  Send Delta force in to kill Obama's criminally insane ass whenever it's a good time (plus any of his top people we can get at the same time as well so they can't scatter), probably only half way through the above con job (or earlier) but there's no rush.  Delta gets whatever backup they need, BTW, but they *don't* get led by (1) a muddy-boots General like Franks (who may be a great muddy-boots General but not for special ops) or (2) a psycho like Rumsfeld, but rather by special ops/counterinsurgency experts that the NSC meets  with daily.   Delta needs to have no-fail punch power and flexibility, and while the operations can't be too loud as to give a tipoff, they also need enough redundancy (and potential redundancy / resources-only in-case-needed) to make certain the mass murderer doesn't escape unharmed.  BTW if Rumsfeld makes trouble during any of this, he's gone.

 

10.  With Osama dead, explain to American people that we were always researching alternative theories besides states, never ruled 'em out, and hold ourselves a big parade amd barbecue.  Thank allies, make amends with phony suspects.  Send Wolfowitz and probably Rumsfeld to some other posts not in foreign/defense policy and fire Feith, Condi and her loser deputy Steven Hadley.  If the facts warrant, check into possible prison time for double-dealer Perle.  Continue to rout out Al Qaeda remnants going forward, while pursuing a less-provocative policy.

 

Critique:  This is Monday-morning quarterbacking so it's biased and unfair.  Plus the public won't support my strategy above as it's too slow and quiet.

 

Critique of the Critique:   It's unfair to *me* that I had this shoddy team to work with; where did these weird people come from?!!  Either way, the above is honestly what I would have done, every bit of it.  Number 9 is somewhat informed by the subsequent factual perspective, that's true, but I would never have needed Franks in any case since it's not a war against Afghanistan but a covert action program.  I recognized from the start that without super-secrecy and distraction, I might not get a shot at Bin Laden, and it has to be a cat-burglar type operation if I'm going to get him without scaring him off.  Plus I don't care squat about Afghanistan; I want Bin Laden and his organization smashed.   I admit the U.S. public may not love this as it could be slow, but our people feed them tidbits about the phony suspects throughout to keep them going, like watching a detective show.  There is a lot of support for President in 9/11 aftermath, and I try to build on that to keep them on board.  Plus we catch the mass-murderer probably by around Feb. or March 2002 so it doesn't really go on that long.  And the public will thank me later and I won't be the odds-on favorite for worst President in U.S. history!

 

Copyright © J.D. 2009 - Overeach THIS!


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Why start on September 12, 2001? That plays into the flawed logic that 9/11 came out of absolutely nowhere, no warnings, no precedents, etc.

Why not start this hypothetical in January 2001? It would include all the events and presidential daily briefings pre-9/11.

I appreciate the exercise here, but you're automatically accepting lots of premises that may not have transpired the way you think they transpired.

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You have no idea whatever of what I'm accepting or not accepting. None.

And there is nothing, nothing in the post to suggest what you say. Nothing whatsoever.

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I didn't mean to rattle you, honestly. If I've offended your sensibilities, I'm sorry.

I do not know, in fact, what you accept and don't accept. I could not know.

I just think it would have been interesting to hear what you, a sensible person, would have done, starting back in January 2001, as opposed to starting 9/12/01.

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Alright, well, great. Thanks for the note.

What would would I have done? Listened to Richard Clarke and all those people trying to tell me how threatening Al Qaeda was, and tried to understand what I should reasonably do about it. And if I'd done those things, there is a good chance, maybe not great, that I could have thwarted 9/11. What the Justice Department did, though, was to chase porn (can you even imagine anybody stopping porn now??), and what the Defense Department did was to provoke people who might have helped us by inflicting upon them missile "defense."

Problem is that George isn't a manager. He decided to laze his way through all this.

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yes, laze his way through.

Lot of vacation time prior to 9/11 for both Cheney and Bush. I can't remember how much but obviously it was too much.

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There was also lots of vacation time after 9/11. It would really be interesting to see a comparison of the pre-9/11 and post-9/11 vacation days.

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It would be interesting to see, yes :)

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There is another problem here. Bush and his pals had a theory of management, i.e., set and pursue priorities. Pick your priorities and focus on them. "If everything is a priority, then you have no priorities." In other words, you can ignore to some degree things that are *not* your priorities.

Well, if you are going to go that route, you have got to pick your priorities *very* carefully. Now, if I'd already picked lean and mean military, porn, and screwing around with Iraq, but these outgoing guys were going nuts over terrorism, I'd want to know more. It's not like the departing Dems were arguing to expand national parks or gay rights or to restrict guns, they were all about a grave terrorist threat! A *real* manager would listen to that and want to know more. Only an incompetent would assume that since he'd already picked his priorities, nothing possibly should be changed no matter how frightened the previous buys were.

Only point of my underlying post is to say suppose one had made all of Bush's mistakes up to 9/11, even had his bad dream of advisors working for one, there was still a rational way forward, and they badly blew it and we're still paying the price. And for some time to come.

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Yes yes of course, you would have been simply brilliant.

With the help of hindsight, Sy's book and years of violent chat room clashes with right wing terrorists, you're practically a General already.

The truth is, of course, that you would have probably peed in your pants, called mother and had repeated panic attacks, because when it actually happened Sy was helping someone else imagine their glory if time were to be turned back.

Now - just think how quickly you could have dealt with Lord Voldermort, now that you've read all the books!!!

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It's not normal to accuse me of peeing in my pants. It's not decent, it's not normal, and you shouldn't in any way be proud of yourself for making these twisted observations. You may need help.

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You have no right or business talking to me that way and you should most definitely be banned from this site and from any others that welcome decent people.

I am hopeful that this will be done for the good of all.

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I think they keep some trolls around for laughs.

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Lalo, some tact please, no need to insult. Why not ponder some of the contents above instead of personal attacks for a change?

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Some tact?? I don't know how long you've been around but I've read and discussed too much stuff written by Overreach for that. Of course, it was mostly Overreach's comments directed at others, but oh well...

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Vary mature!

Oh, he does it too, so I'm not wrong. Waaaahhhhh!!!

Very, very mature.

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4. Admit to myself that my own thoroughly ridiculous ideas about a leaner, lighter military and missile defense were nothing more than a lazy campaign pipe dream and even if they might somehow have validity, this is by no means the time, so they're off the table for the first term at least."

This is good OT. I mean really gooooooooood.

You have Sync selling you now. ha!!

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"lean and mean" was double-speak for privitizing. Disabling the military from making and acting on decisions in respect to contract with private companies does nothing to enahnce military operations. But it's great for private business, really, really, great!

I think "lean" should be replaced by "emaciated" and "mean" replced by "frustrated" because it's so damn inefficient to go ask a CEO how much they want to make on the next patrol into whereever.

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Lets see, HOW MUCH FRIGGIN MONEY CAN WE MAKE OFF OF THIS?

This attitude just enrages me Gregor. Come you Masters of War, you who build all the guns...

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"What's in it for me?" is the only question politcians have. DiFi states, the public outrage does not move me. We will move her out of office. She is done.

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It's interesting because Bush got the military vote but they had no idea he intended to defang them. What is warped as DickDay had quoted me above on is that he continued this stupidity with two wars going really badly!

Chief of Staff suggested Bush fire Rumsfeld and Bush replied that Rumsfeld was doing Bush's reorganization/shrinkage work for him. How Bush could not see that this was threatening his Presidency directly just leaves one shaking one's head!

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Thanks, DD. Much appreciated.

The idea of W. know something about how to reform the military seems beyond ridiculous, but he thought it was great because he said it somewhere, sometime. And if he said it, it must be golden, eh?

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September 12th wasn't the real problem.

The screwup happened on September 10th (or well before).

There's an even bigger one waiting in the wings.

Right now it is estimated that this nation needs in excess of $2.5T in infrastructure investment. If it doesn't happen, 9/11, Katrina, the financial mess, health care and whatever else will be small potatoes by comparison. Dams, sewers, bridges, roads, water systems and energy are all inadequate. Our entire infrastructure is at the end of its projected lifecycle. Repair isn't even possible. It has to be redone.

Economic growth and population growth aren't supportable with what we have.

Our present stuff was built with a 50 year lifespan. Financial projections specify a need to build for a 100 year or greater sustainability.

Just as with 9/11, where a serious vulnerability was overlooked, we have the same here but with far greater consequences. This has to start today because every estimate says 2030 is too late. Obama has adressed this but the remedy falls short by an order of magnitude and won't even scratch the surface.

I doubt this will happen and we'll fail miserably. Between the dumbasses and greedy SOBs we are screwed. I'm glad I'm old. You can see this coming and it'll be awful to watch the shit headed our way.

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Well, let's say you're right. Even I have to agree there's still not a lot of cash around now to say let's fix things up. We may literally need a second stimulus package! We have to be ready for that, and we can't overspend so much that it's unsustainable. Some of what you say could be part of a second stimulus I suppose...Some.

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THE LARGER POINT HERE of course is that were a bunch of rational things that could have been done on and after September 12, and virtually none of it was.

It is accepted that Iraq was a strategic calamity; I now believe that Afghanistan was, too. It made people feel better that we went in there and nominally won a war, but feeling better is a childish objective. It should have been really simple: 1. Find a way to catch or kill Bin Laden (through, for example, lulling him into a false sense of security as I suggest above, or some other way). But don't try; make sure it happens. 2. Kill all the bad guys you need to and shut off their financing. 3. Take advantage of the enormous good will post 9/11 and use it for general advantage rather than squandering it. 4. Repair relations with the Muslim world in a serious, substantive way, while finding some way to say that we're not doing this because they somehow "won."

That's not two wars, it's zero wars. No Iraq, no Karzai, no Freedom Fries, no axis of evil, no missile "defense," no Cold-War-revisited. That would have been the way to go IMHO. And I really think it's pretty obvious, too.

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