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Week of May 17, 2009 - May 23, 2009

Cheeney defiant: Emerging as 2012 candidate? Or as, uh, jailbird?


The radio host's drowning torture video shows us graphically what we really got ourselves into.  Holy smokes!

 

And just one day after Cheeney's swaggering moment defending, dismissing, and giving courage to some Republicans while momentarily puffing himself up!  Is he finally going to get his old boss's job?  At approximately the same time as the drowning torture was being broadcast in Chicago, Cheeney's daughter was on morning TV lecturing Lawrence O'Donnell that it was no biggie and how her glowering Dad was a right peach.   That radio stunt ("Absolutely torture!") was bad timing for the resurgent Republican juggernaut all around; talk about point-counterpoint!

 

Janis Karpinski says don't listen to the malevolent curmudgeon - Abu Ghraib was no series of stray incidents but linked right to the Cheney torture memos.  That can probably be proven easily, by looking at who trained the Abu Ghraib soldiers and where did the trainers get their perspective (Karpinski says they were right there in the camp with her, BTW).  Cheeney's heroes, the CIA contractors who inflicted his "good" drowning torture will do a lot of finger-pointing if they are put in legal jeopardy, Karpinski adds.  No wonder he wants them protected!

 

By poking a sharp stick in the Dems' eyes, is Cheeney alienating people who'd normally be reluctant see a Veep investigated/prosecuted?  Could this start unraveling for him?   It sure was a cocky move demoting Karpinski, with those damning DoD memos floating around in addition to the disgraced DoJ handiwork.  Bush had to personally approve the demotion, and he obviously wouldn't have without Cheeney's okay.  They must have been feeling lucky.

Obama? TOTALLY SAME AS BUSH!


I'm reading this in the press a lot.

Is that what you think?  No real difference?   Same as Bush?

If so, then *FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!!*

We did not bust our asses to hire this transformational leader
only to have a bunch of narrow-issue pissants try to tell us that
he is the same as the worst (or near worst) President we've ever had.
What a goddam disgrace!

It's not enough for you that he saved the world economy from kingdom come?
What has he done for you lately?

Not only is all that nihilistic, cynical, and intellectual dishonest, it is also morally
bankrupt and completely despicable. If that's what you're about, take a good look
at the hideous reflection in the mirror, you odious damnfool!

We're sounding like Cheney now


There's stuff on the main page and also in Muckraker to the effect that, "We know the government was interested in the Al Qaeda connection so maybe they tortured over it."

We oughtta cool it with that.  It's like saying we know Saddam would like to have a nuke so maybe he's got one nearly ready to go.  Key Cheney line:  "We can't exclude the possibility."
Yucch.

They had Overreaching rules saying they could torture but only in the ticking time bomb situation and if had they tried other things that didn't work.  *Maybe* they followed those screwy rules.  We shouldn't accuse fellow Americans of not following them unless we have evidence.  Saying we know they wanted info, or we know that some guy was at GITMO, or even that we know that Cheney would have liked to torture in violation of the mangled rules -- that ain't it.

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  • Favorite Blogs Josh is a journalist of historic importance, I believe. Still thrilled by his smackdown of the Social Security Bamboozlepalooza! I love Washington Post's Chris Cillizza, especially The Line on Fridays (does that count as a blog? :)), but I don't read the Post much as of August 2009 - too bloody right wing as blog below.
  • Favorite Books I dug all them books on Iraq, for example. State of Denial was pretty rich.
  • Favorite Quotes "What in effect happened was that a very astute, probably the most astute, bureaucratic entrepreneur I've ever run into in my life became the vice president of the United States. He became vice president well before George Bush picked him. And he began to manipulate things from that point on, knowing that he was going to be able to convince this guy to pick him, knowing that he was then going to be able to wade into the vacuums that existed around George Bush--personality vacuum, character vacuum, details vacuum, experience vacuum." -Lawrence Wilkerson ********** Iraq expert predicts: "I think the victory will be rapid, within about three weeks." (John McCain, MSNBC, January 28, 2003.) See, e.g., Crooks and Liars from July 2008, http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/29/mccain-fails-mccains-commander-in-chief-test/ ********** "Vice President Cheney has been at the head of a movement whose notion is somehow that we can't reconcile our core values, our Constitution, our belief that we don't torture, with our national security interests. I think he's drawing the wrong lesson from history. [A]fter all these years how many convictions actually came out of Guantanamo? How many terrorists have actually been brought to justice under the philosophy that is being promoted by Vice President Cheney? It hasn't made us safer. What it has been is a great advertisement for anti-American sentiment. Which means that there is constant effective recruitment of Arab fighters and Muslim fighters against U.S. interests all around the world." - President Barack Obama http://wcco.com/politics/Barack.Obama.Dick.2.965981.html ********** "My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks." http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-presidency19-2009apr19,0,1035963.story ********

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