Blogging and Chatting
In April of this year, my daughter, LisB, introduced me to TPM and from there, to the chat room where many of the bloggers hang out. For this one time staunch conservative Republican, this was quite a political shock. I was interested in TPM for the simple reason that Lis had told me she shared some of her poetry and other literary endeavors there. Of course, I found that the blog site was mostly political and quite liberal, to my eyes. I really didn't feel I belonged there but I read some of the posts, comments and replies. I kept reading and reading. First, I found some humor, and that pleased me. I began to think that they were rather interesting and I followed along with a few of them, digesting all of the flow of opinions, arguments and pronouncements. It was certainly an eye opener and far different from what I was reading and hearing from the Republican side.
I have shared about my political past and many know that I was born and raised with a very conservative viewpoint which I completely adhered to with out thought or conscience. It was unheard of in my family to think anything liberal was right or just and big government was something one did not even consider. Ronald Reagan was like a god to my father and even Nixon, with all of his foibles and dishonesty, was considered a good president except for that "one little lie". I think my father went into a period of shock and dismay when the hearings ended and Nixon actually resigned - something my father was totally against.
At any rate, I have to be totally honest and say, I did not follow politics much in my past. I dutifully voted every year, straight Republican ticket. Never pulled a Democrat's lever and never intended to. I think there were times I kind of envied liberal friends of mine - they always seemed so passionate about their politics and beliefs. I never felt that way about anything regarding the government and politicians. I either thought they were good guys or bad guys and it never occurred to me to look at the other side to see if maybe there were some "good" guys there. If someone liberal looked okay to me, I would soon find some reason or another to dislike them. If a conservative did something I didn't like, I would find an excuse for their behavior. What a hypocrite I was and what a non-caring citizen of the United States. I always complained about events and downfalls in the economy but blamed it on the Democrat in the White House or those in the House and Senate. I never, ever tried to find the real cause or even look into the problem with an idea of discovering a solution, writing to my congress person or senator. Those were the things for others more involved to take care of. My character traits as far as politics went were non-involvement, lack of caring, preoccupation with more self serving things, and laziness. Nothing to be very proud of but I really didn't give it much thought.
Then those damnable blogs came into my life. I began to see what had drawn my once conservative daughter to Obama and to the Democratic Party. Lis then invited me to the chat room where so many of her TPM friends sort of hung out. I ventured in and became hooked or addicted. I found the most friendly, humorous, music loving, opinionated and great people I have met "in" my PC. I will not mention names for fear of forgetting someone or giving up someone's identity. However, it is a group of gals and guys from all over the States and even from some countries across oceans. I am one of the eldest. We can get weather reports from all over, differences in time zones, and political thoughts from many areas. Sure, there are diverse opinions and heart felt causes discussed. Sometimes it even gets heated for there are strong voices to be heard. There are times I stay out of it since I have not learned enough to venture a thought. I have become braver though and I have started to ask questions. I also have started to look up things on the internet and I seek truth, a better way and I believe I have become more caring and interested in my fellow man's fate. It isn't all about me as much - I want solutions that will affect my country, just not my own little world. It isn't all about Maggie anymore. What a liberating and novel idea!!!!!! You can laugh - I am laughing too............what an ostrich I have been with my head buried in the sand.
So thank you to my fellow bloggers and chatters. I owe you so much for your patience, understanding, support of the blogs I have written and genuine friendship. There is even talk of a Chicago get together sometime next year. WOW! It amazes me that people want to read my poems, musings and personal stories. I have always written just for me and sharing those personal thoughts was hard at first. I have found it liberating and fulfilling though and I am grateful for that. Now as a dear friend here would say, "THE END". Hahahahahahaha.













This might sound corny, but it really is a joy to see you asking so many questions, lately, and dissing Cheney and Palin and Bush, LOL...
You've come a long way, baby!
July 16, 2009 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks to my number one supporter - your joy is good for my soul.
July 16, 2009 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I keep thinking that pretty soon Josh will start a new section of TPM called "Ask Maggie - A Resource for Wavering Republicans".
July 16, 2009 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hahahahahahahaha...
July 16, 2009 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh you are cute, Shell - I am not so wavering as I was when I first appeared...........getting definite ideas and feelings and they are not so on the fence - hitting that left side and running a bit. WOW!!
July 16, 2009 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh you are cute, Shell -
And lovable, too!
... getting definite ideas and feelings and they are not so on the fence -
No, indeedy. They are very lefty side of the fence. And that's where you need to be in order to answer the questions from ones who have not been so gifted with a daughter like Lis and friends like us!
But really, I couldn't exactly call it "Ask Maggie - A Resource for Wavering Republicans from an Already Recovered One", could I?
:-)
July 16, 2009 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also.
July 16, 2009 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The world is full of people who have never, since childhood, met an open doorway with an open mind. -E. B. White
Welcome home...
July 16, 2009 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the great quote, Steve. I know I will feel at home.
July 16, 2009 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who said us old dogs can't learn new tricks?
July 16, 2009 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Stilli - you are my dancer, not an old dog, LOL.
July 16, 2009 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Stilli - i am really an old dog - got you mixed for a minute with Synch, the dancer.......beg a thousand pardons for my confusion. But you are NOT an old dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 16, 2009 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Couldn't be confused w/ anyone better!
July 17, 2009 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
The older the violin, the sweeter the music, and these words are music to my ears. Your writing is music too. I'm very glad you're here, Mum! You give me hope that we can turn this thing around. When voices inside the GOP start looking realistically at the other side's opinions, we have a much better chance of doing something useful that will not get sabotaged later.
July 16, 2009 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
What kind words you use - I like the MUSIC!!!!!
Dems seem to have prettier tunes - LOL.
July 16, 2009 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh my goodness, this is marvelous. Just marvelous.
Warms my heart.
Really good blogs today Maggie. Just fine blogs. Some, including this one, have really lifted me up today.
There is some optimism in the air.
July 16, 2009 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh i feel it too DD - optimism - running around us and filling us with hope...............
July 16, 2009 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're a great addition to the site Maggie. It's a rare individual who can and will open up their heart and mind as you do again and again in your writing.
July 16, 2009 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks so much Miguel - miss you in chat - stop by and visit - I am learning so much here and there!!!!!!!
July 16, 2009 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lovely post mum, we are lucky to have you with us. As LisB said 'you've come a long way baby' and as Steve's quote points out, not many get to see the world with new eyes:)
July 16, 2009 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Synch - I am blessed that I have eyes that are truly opening to the world around me - that is the great thing about all of this - blogging and chatting has given me new insight and for that I am grateful beyond measure.
July 16, 2009 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maggie Two Shells.
Ain't the world a beautiful place?
July 16, 2009 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
It sure is and could get even prettier if we could get a good health care bill..........:)
July 16, 2009 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maggie, I can't stay long or write much, I've had a very long day. I'm probably the wrong person to ask about poetry, but your writing and your storytelling are welcome.
It's pretty basic for me. We live in a society, not an economy. That means that while money matters, so do other things. And it means we need to do some things much better than we have. And there are things we need to do which we are not, and things we really ought to have the sense to stop doing.
So this is going to be a lively place sometimes.
July 17, 2009 1:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for commenting - I have missed you in chat and can see you are quite busy.....I agree there is so much to be done and I hope I can start working on my end to help bring about change.
July 17, 2009 5:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maggie, just have to say your seashell story still rings in my mind. You're a wonderful writer. Always such a pleasure to read. You're a real treasure at this site!
July 17, 2009 8:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obey - I really do appreciate your kind words -
comments like yours propel me to do more writing and you yourself, are an inspiration to me.
July 17, 2009 8:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
We may need to send you back to the Republican blogger-sites as an infiltrating double-agent. There,you could spread your life-affirming transformational message of hope and life-after-Conservatism with others, who, unlike you, have not yet seen the light. ;-)
July 17, 2009 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is an excellent idea. Maggie -- would you and Still be willing to post a few revised thinking testimonials at those other sites?
Because in addition to bringing your wonderful writing here, they could use some warm-hearted persuasion, there. What do you think?
July 17, 2009 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
As you can see by my response to Mr. Smith - I don't think I could do as well at my old home base as I do here. First off, I feel so welcome at TPM and have gained a great comfort level. I never dreamt I would be saying that but I feel as if I fit in and belong. I can not stand five minutes of Fox News anymore so doubt I would do well blogging my new found learnings to a bunch of stodgy, right wingnuts who only will put me in a fever------------- but thank you Wendy, for you continuous support.
July 17, 2009 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me a double agent - I have to laugh - one thing I have never been good at is acting or lying. LOL.
Plus I have tried to persuade the remaining conservative members of my family to come on over to no avail. They are horrified at my turncoat behavior as it is without my trying to influence them or or ask them to at least listen to me. But thanks for the suggestion.
July 17, 2009 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maggie, great blog--so from the heart. I tried to put myself in your shoes and found that I would have a hard time, indeed, switching my viewpoint so totally from one side of the political spectrum to the other. I just couldn't do it.
I'm right where I want to be and I obviously think our side is the best for this country, but I want to be open to other points of view, as well.
That's what's so great about TPM, I think. None of us agrees all the time but most often we respect each other's views.
Anyway, it's refreshing to read such an honest assessment of your amazing change-over. Good for you!
Ramona
July 17, 2009 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ramona - how good of you to comment and I appreciate your words. It wasn't easy to give up a lifetime of views but since so many of them were told to me rather than my actually coming to believe in so many "talking points", when I discovered I had a mind of my own and could actually come up with some viewpoints that belonged to me, I was encouraged to continue. So here I am at this juncture and plowing along, learning something new about politics, politicians and Maggie.
July 17, 2009 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sometimes you wanna go, where everybody knows your name.
And they're always glad you came....
July 17, 2009 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Always loved Cheers and how true it is about TPM and the chat room - everybody knows your name and you feel right at home. I have enjoyed it here and am looking towards a long stay, on my "stool".
July 17, 2009 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this post. It is so easy to think that the only people here are the choir and the trolls. Each word we post here has the power to enlighten, and also has the power to send someone, who is wavering, running back to safety of their worldview in which they were raised.
Moreover, one of the values of a site like TPM is that it helps liberals and progressives from putting their head in the sand in order to avoid critiques of those on "our side." It's human nature to want to be on not only the right side, but also on the side that is pure and utterly righteous. It helps when someone asks a question that at first glance could be knocked down as being simply "right wing." There might be some truth, or some ugly reality that progressives and liberals have blinded themselves to.
July 17, 2009 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You have made some great points here and I appreciate your comment. I too think it is important to have discourse among the different factions of our political system - I have learned from you and maybe there is something I can teach you in return, who knows.........
July 17, 2009 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Love you, Maggie. As usual, another great post. Isn't it super to evolve through the processing of ideas here and in the chat room? It's not only ideas, it's companionship.
July 17, 2009 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Lefty - Yes it is companionship along with a wonderful education and especially getting to know the folks in the chat room. I have spent many a fun time there but I am getting so much else from it plus the wonderful discourse that goes on in the blogs....I feel lucky that LisB brought me here.........
July 17, 2009 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for sharing your process and growth. I appreciate your honesty. I think we are all encouraged to not think - rhetoric supports that, and the belief that everything is two sided. The reality is that the world and people are much more complex, but the other path leads to unthinking compliance.
I am really glad that you not only hung around and kept reading, but now share your thoughts and experiences.
You're the cat's meow in my book!
July 17, 2009 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahem!!!!!!
She is the dog's woof in my book!
July 17, 2009 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cat's meow - old expression but love it.......
Yes, for too many years, I just followed along blindly - not questioning or disagreeing - like a puppet with words being put in my mouth. Now I feel, at my age, that I am growing up and owning my own thoughts, ideas, and beliefs. It is refreshing.
July 17, 2009 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your transition, while beneficial politically, is much more profound because it appears to me that you have become more loving and wise.
For this or any other place to have this kind of impact on anyone makes everything TPM and other similiar places worthwhile. Thank you for sharing your testimony. I wish you love, joy and wisdom commensurate to your capacity to receive them. May you receive what you send!
July 17, 2009 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Zippperupus - what kind and beautiful words - make me blush and wish I had some way of expressing my gratitude for what you said. Your wishes are taken to heart and thank you so very much.
July 17, 2009 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
First of all, Maggie Two Shells, I'm not trying to talk you into anything with this post - so you can relax on that score!
But honestly, as Mr. Smith and Wendy also pointed out, you have some amazing attributes: (1) You saw the light and had the courage to hop the 'fence', (2) Your honesty is amazingly refreshing, and (3) You communicate both of those qualities beautifully in your writings.
Just as the power in AA comes from the stories that people tell and not through the tactics of persuasion, I think the same is true for many in conversions to political 'sobriety'. As far as I can tell, facts alone are usually not enough to convince anyone to temporarily change their breakfast food, never mind their political preferences and opinions. But your little "blogs and chats" have a such a compelling air to them, that I can see bacon lovers turning into vegetarians with hardly a sigh.
And now, because I love hearing stories like this, what was said or what did you hear or see that got you to look twice at a side of the fence you had just habitually ignored all of your life? What was the magic moment for you?
(And now I take a deep breath and hit submit, because I'm not used to saying so much that can't be backed up by at least 2 citations!)
July 17, 2009 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Almost forgot:
THE END. Hahahahahahaha.
July 17, 2009 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I did forget to give you the root of my changeover. It was health care. I realized that the Republicans had no plan in mind at all and I wanted reform in that area very badly. The way our private insurance companies are run and handled causes me great dismay. I am trying to learn all I can about this issue and form an opinion as to what I think the best route to take for our country. There are other things too regarding the wide gap between rich and poor, the dismal state of our economy and education which are giving me pause. I hope that answers your question and comment. Thanks so much for your interest.
July 17, 2009 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Shell - I can see there is no way I can get out of the requests to try to use some of my education on changing one's viewpoints on others. Perhaps some day I will do just that - on a soapbox somewhere - LOL. At this moment in time, I would like to get my feet firmly entrenched in my new discoveries and fact finding before I take on my old companions who are becoming the other side of the fence for me. I need to learn my way around over here and have good and strong convictions before I take up such a cause.
July 17, 2009 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maggie Two Shells!
Please re-read my first paragraph. I meant it! Your feet were safe with me!
July 17, 2009 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are too sweet, Shell - and I will never tire seeing that Maggie Two Shells when you greet me. I was amazed that Obey mentioned my first blog - I recall sitting at my computer, hesitating over the submit button, picturing the reaction to my little story, partly true and written in a period of my life where things were very blue. Now here I am writing and being rec'd and commented to and it is like beyond my wildest dreams. People like you and above commenters have given me courage and inspiration and I will forever be in your debt.
July 17, 2009 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry that I missed this earlier, Maggie. Great post. I was raised in a very conservative family. I dropped all that baggage in my junior year in college. It is quite liberating once you do it!
August 4, 2009 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink