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I Was Once Homeless


No shit, really.  I was.  I slept in the back of my boyfriend's pickup truck in the parking lot of my office, and I took showers every morning in my company's gym.  And during the day while I was at work, my boyfriend would take his truck to his friend's house and do our laundry and make sure my clothes for the next day got ironed so I wouldn't look silly the next day.

We got away with it for weeks, eating balogna sandwiches in the back of his pickup truck every night for dinner.

And we finally moved on to a better place with two paychecks, and didn't eat balogna for over a year.

We kept our pride during the whole ordeal.  We didn't beg, we didn't ask people for favors wondering if we only wanted drug money.  We were just destitute at the time, but we managed, and we muddled through.  We ended up in a very nice apartment in San Jose with 12 foot ceilings eventually.

But....I always hurt deep inside, wondering what my mother might think if she knew....and my grandparents....I pictured them rolling in their graves.  What kept me sane was the fact that my grandparents and their parents before them probably, at one point or another, had to deal with being poor and broke too.

So it makes me wonder how the wealthy can live with themselves, and keep their pride the way I somehow managed to do, while I was struggling, and they aren't.

It makes me wonder how CEO's can expect millions in compensation, when some of their own secretaries or data clerks or IT newbies might be struggling the way I was....and the way that I could be still if I get fired tomorrow.

Millions in salary.  Millions in stock options.  Perks up the wazoo.  "Networking", they call it.  Well, fine.  Network THIS.  Network seeing your secretary moving in with mom and her husband because she's only making $55K a year and can no longer afford safe housing.  And then network in the woman her age who has three kids and works at Wal-Mart instead of at your company....

Don't rich people get it?

Fine, donate to PBS and get all our kids smart with Sesame Street or whatev, while you get a tax break for it.  Donate a few grand for the homeless....while getting a tax break for it.

But ride the fine line that the common folks like us ride, and tell me how comfortable you feel donating anything but sympathy.






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I don't know what your folks would think about that period in your life, but I promise you real Americans would look upon your self sufficiency, accomplishment and determination with with pride.

You must have taken a bad turn in life somewhere, to lift yourself up by your bootstraps like that, then turn into a Marxist.

You need to realize that CEO's are paid millions because their employers think they are worth millions and pay them millions to have them run their companies. It's nothing but fair market value.

If their secretaries are unsatisfied with their lot in life, they can certainly go to CEO school and get in there with them. It's a free country, you know?

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Are you joking? Apparently, the only government assistance you approve of is for greedy, incompetent bankers. You are on the wrong side of the debate and of history. The country isn't buying it anymore.

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The government bailout of the banks? Hell it had me foaming at the mouth. Bailouts are for our children.

Adults should left to suffer their own failures. Not be bailed out at the expence of others.

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"It's nothing but fair market value."

Two years ago it was fair market value. Now there is a market correction. Just as organized labor has been taking pay cuts and pretty much everyone else who still has a job, it is now their turn. BTW, their bonuses should be based on performance, and of late, their performance has been abyssmal.

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Don't correct me, I just used LisB's figures. I don't have any idea what they make.

I do know that for CEOs to earn whatever money they make, someone must be willing to pay it.

I don't see how it could possibly be any of my, your, or LisB's business.

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Evidently, you do feel it is your business and have come here to try to push us back and protect their exhorbitant salaries. Seriously, what do you get out of all this? Is there some personal reward for demanding no one expose this horrible inequity?

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Horrible inequity,,, (tee hee hee)

I can recognize a tongue in cheek provocateur when I see one.

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As opposed to the chronic nuisance you make of yourself?

Get out of here - you are beginning to remind me of a fly. You eat shite and bother people.

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I really don't have any idea what something like you would feel the compulsive need to have to suck on to give it your continued will to live, but it won't bother me if he leaves you soon.

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More commentary that make the false analogy that our choices are either Free & Unfettered Capitalism or Marxism. Modern society isn't so simple that it can be defined by theories developed for a far simpler world. Back to school, junior.

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You certainly didn't live in the 1850s. Why are you so sure it was simpler?

I can't be sure, but I just bet if you were alone and naked in the stone age world you wouldn't survive a month. Might not be as simple as you would like to think.

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I've got $0.50 says he'd outlive you.

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Nah, country boy will survive.

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Simple in terms of our understanding of global dynamics. Simpler in terms of population density and economic systems. Simpler in terms of wants and needs. Simpler in terms of the next steps in the evolution of human society.

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Geez, you're making Attila look like a sensitive guy compared to you.

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Thanks, lis.

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Will I survive? What a question. I am so adolescent in my approach to your short bio, that all I can think of is where can I find this boyfriend and bring him to justice.

I was homeless for three years, but I found a place to stay most of the time. Now I have been on the dole. Lost and aching, and I cannot find my way home. Steve Winfield.

It is so strange. And you were working. We are faced with strange and wondrous obstacles before us.

Which ones are wondrous and which pitiful and which dire?

Good story, makes me think.

Sweet Lady, LisB. You and your kitties are not homeless anymore.

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I've been through similar, in a dissimilar fashion, Lis. We all have our stories to tell and memories to sustain us even as they sometimes frighten us. So be it.

The more experience we gain the more we understand that wrong is simply wrong. And the louder our voices become when screaming the truth to all who refuse to listen.

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I've been working steadily since I was 17 years old. I chose the wrong man, three times over, and had to carry the weight, because I believed that love mattered more than money...and sometimes even pride.

I carried the weight in those relationships when I had to, and when I realized I couldn't carry two of us, I moved on to single-hood. The only time that didn't happen was when I was with the man in the pick-up truck. And he ended up being physically abusive. So I moved on from him for even greater reasons.

Life happens.

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We should chat sometime, as it really is a small world.

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We should, luv.

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This is a very touching blog, LisB. I think we all know you a bit better now. That makes you dearer.

So many people, right now, may be fearing they could end up in the same situation. And perhaps reading that you made it through that may help them. We never know who might be reading this.

Thank you for this blog.

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A good story for times like these, Lis. How many people right now are one or two paychecks away?

An old friend wrote two days ago about having to "suspend operations indefinitely" at his business. He'll be OK, outside, anyway. He's pretty torn up about it. Don't know what will happen to the people who worked there.

Got no advice, no real comment, other than this: Stay strong. Offer your story as evidence that bad times pass.

And you're among friends here, of course, even with that blue-avatar-displaying troublemaker spewing upthread.

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I couldn't bring myself to kick that fuckers ass this time. Being right at the top of the thread, it would have soiled LisB's story and diminished its impact.

Anonymity is a good thing as this motherfucker running into me eye to eye would get ugly quick.

I would never wish on anybody the shame and abuse LisB endured, but that doesn't mean I'm against pounding cowardly bastards such as him. He's to far gone for a pounding to help make a man out of him. Cowards such as him never can grow a set.

It's important for people to know that not everybody turns away from cowardly acts and disturbing injustice because they don't think they should get involved or they are scared themselves.

LisB, I feel bad that your thread was contaminated like that. spric's- post is meant to scare people by making it to painful to share our stories than they already are. I admire your courage and hope I will soon feel able to match it myself. Until that day arrives I will follow you. My best wishes to you.

spric - I've got your M-O-T-H-E-R-F-U-C-K-'-I-N free market right here...ya yellow-bellied coward bastard! Bring it on!


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And I've got your back when you do. Dealt out a few troll-beatings myself, including one good one to that little POS.

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Count me in on that too!

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He does know how to get us to band together, doesn't he? I'm in. Metaphorically speaking.

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Count me in, too. You gotta wonder at someone that can write You must have taken a bad turn in life somewhere, to lift yourself up by your bootstraps like that, then turn into a Marxist, and then totally not get the irony of that statement in the context of greedy CEOs.

Hello Dots? Have you ever met Connection in spriche's world?

And may I muse for one second on his confident assertion of what 'real Americans' would think of Lis. It makes me wonder whether he thinks unreal Americans would think differently, or just not think at all. And which of those two thoughtless thoughts would apply to Finns or Russians or even those wild and crazy people from Fiji?

Truly, some people are not only shorted in their six packs, but they're missing that plastic thingy that holds the few they do have, together.

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There are different ways of standing up - but the most important one is "standing together."

Deanie Mills has a great post up. And I put a long comment on that, that pertains here:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/deanie_mills/2009/02/congressional-republicans-and.php#comment-3367315

As I've said before, this needs to be a "safe" place for people to open up, as LisB has done here. And "standing together" against bullies will ensure that kind of safety.

Dean said: "You have the power." Obama told us: Yes. We. Can.

It's the WE part!

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Ignoring bullies is probably more effective.

Also, in the future, maybe standing together could mean eschewing threats of violence? Please?

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Unfortunately, in the real world, that is not true. Ignoring a bully simply lets it go on about its bullying business, feeling that it's the "fastest gun on the block". The real response is to put the first bully in the hospital. The rest may take it as an object lesson.

Simply standing back and feeling superior is letting them get away with it.

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Relax, Orlando. It's a metaphorical beating. It's also facing this limp-wristed word tosser with his own weapons. He is not our victim, he is our volunteer. He has certainly of his own free will entered into the realm of the nasty falsely believing his will stand above us all. Far from it!

First, he is not above us, he is beneath us since he chooses to live in the gutter, and we will follow him there if that is his field of choice. He has failed to enter the field of thoughtful discourse. We would meet him there as well. Certainly, we would all prefer to meet him along the lines of critical analysis of politics, but he lacks the ability to present a coherent thought in these matters.

It is my suspecion, maybe my hope, that he may have the capacity to understand what we are about, but his emotions overcome him when he has so completely bought the BS the Reich spews that, while he manages quite well to explain himself in others fields, he gets frustrated because he can't in this arena. It's not that he is not smart enough, he just can't win because, when all is said and done, his beliefs are false.

Warning: Analogies follow. For those who prefer to avoid them, move on:

He cannot make a pig sing.

He cannot polish the turd.

He can't get enough lipstick on this hockey Mom.

He's not on the same page.

He's singing from his own music sheet, adn he's way off key anyway.

Would it be that he would come around to admitting we are better when we stand together then leaving people to live in pick-up trucks who have something to offer, as LisB obviously does, he would be happier too.

Spriche, you are one miserable man, but if you continue to choose to abuse people here, there are plenty her who will return the favor. You will be only a victim of your Self.

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O, I've tried really hard to avoid these creatures...This one sent me over the edge. Do note that I said "metaphorically speaking." Its one thing to be an ass when someone is talking about straight politics, its something completely different when someone puts out a heartfelt personal story to help put a face on the problem and you act like an ass. He needed to be called on it, and where I would never condone actually taking him out and beating the crap out of him, he certainly deserves a "virtual" beating.

On second thought I should have turned the other cheek. I'm not very good at that part yet...

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Although I do think if you ignore him, he'll get bored and go somewhere else, I don't have a problem with people calling him out for the ignorant bigot that he is.

But suggesting that to meet him in a dark alley somewhere for a physical altercation is inappropriate, in my opinion.

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Which is why I said in the quote I referenced:

And standing up does not mean having to fight or argue. Walk away. Ignore. Or leave a short, clear message that you're done and you're not done in. Just peacefully walk away.
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I know. I probably replied to the wrong comment...

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No problem. It was such a long thread. :)

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TheraP and Orlando,

In my experience I divide bullies into two grainy catagories based roughly on their behavior being acute, or chronic.

The acute bully is doing something that is out of character for that person and, if ignored, they will get bored and look for another target or get over what is bothering them in the first place.

The chronic bully is one who will not quit because they are not getting attention. Attention isn't what motivates them, destruction is. Their motivation is a deep seated compulsion to destroy another by demonstrably inflicting physical and/or emotional pain so as to prove to themselves they are larger and more powerful than they feel inside. These bullies are insecure in themselves. They are fearful of others and the world around them. They can not adapt to change. They are cowards. They were probably abused themselves. They are abusers and a danger to themselves and others. They need help. When they don't seek out help on their own, the society around them will tend to teach them that their behavior is unacceptable, though the lesson can sometimes get pretty rough. Some people are incapable of learning or changing.

So...when I am being bullied by someone, I first give them the chance to get bored through being ignored. When that approach is unfruitful I recognized that I am going to have to deal with them for my own well-being along with the others that I care about. Ignoring them is only half of the solution to a complex problem.

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What masterful psychological commentary! Very insightful. Thanks. :)

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Thank you. I think. :)

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You are most welcome. I am sure!

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...about what?

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May I suggest you attend a few meetings at your local WA chapter. You just might want to join.

They're listed in the white pages. If not look in the yellow pages for 'whiners anonymous'. Har Har Har!!!!

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Piss off, you vile slug.

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I call you out and you show up after you know everybody left.

COWARD!

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You to make a contribution of some of your money and spend time as a volunteer at a homeless shelter caring for those less fortunate then yourself. Don't worry, you'd get something back for money and time. No doubt there are many in your area. Just ask around if you're to lazy to look one up in the directory.

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I know a bum not only by sight, but by reading the words of a bum. You,, are doubtless a bum..

You have the right to nothing but that which you produce. Those who espouse what you write are what we call around these parts 'punk bums'.

I won't go into the sordid methods 'punk bums' employ to get by, but you are quite obviously a textbook example of a 'punk bum'.

If you wish to gain possession of that which I claim as mine, I suggest you get on with the methods you prefer; utilizing the power of the government to gain that which is not yours.

Because if you plan to go about it otherwise, foul language and hollow meaningless threats won’t accomplish your aims. I have some experience in dealing with ‘punk bums’. I am confident you have small chance of surviving any other methods you might choose to employ.

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Love you, lis...I've never had to fend for myself. I can only imagine what it feels like. You are a strong, brave woman and I am very proud of you. But then you already know that.

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I'm glad you're not homeless anymore, LisB.

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What RTBAG said - co-sign.

I'm commenting here because we look good together. ;)

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Thanks LisB.

I'm commenting here because I think I can throw a sack over the both of them cats with one shot.

*Sssssh*

*Operation Two Cats, One Sack has been initiated.*

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...or, you could try to herd them.

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There but for the grace of God go I is a phrase to remember. It is easier to keep in mind how true it is if you have been in a situation where the grace of God did not keep you from there and how easy it is to end up in dire circumstances. Poverty is it's own hellish world and it isn't easy.

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Aw, hey, I don't mind what the bad folks have to say.

I wrote this for the folks that feel it.

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You are a true class act, Lis. Thanks for taking the time to post this blog.

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BTW, I've been meaning to tell you that "The Gold Coast" by Nelson DeMille is one of my favorite books, too. But so far, I think that makes a total of two of us that would list that book as one of their favorites on a political blog.

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Good point. Not everyone would appreciate the Locust Valley lockjaw...

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Thank you LisB. You are a truly beautiful woman all inside and out. The tragedy of this thread is that poor spriche is unable to fathom how you have retained your best nature through it all. He is one bitter, angry soul rotting from the inside out at this point. His efforts here are to prevent people from helping each other. He will not be known for what he destroys.

I know you hope he will come to the light, as do I. The world would be a better place if he did and he certainly could if he wanted. What I cannot fathom is why he would not want that.

Bless you, LisB. You bring something gentle to our lives in hard times.

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Fitzgerald: "The rich are different than you and me."

Hemingway: "Yeah, they have more money."

I had to sleep in the back of my '67 chevy long-bed (thank gawd I had a truck) while recuperating from my third and fourth knee surgeries 22 years ago. That lasted for about a month and a half, then I moved to the pilot house on the San Rafael Ferry at Gate 5 in Sausalito; that began another slew of adventures for me.

And Jim Morrison also said:

"I've had money and I've had none
But I've never been so broke
That I couldn't leave town."

I think. what with my current "austere" lifestyle, I'm perfectly postioned for this economic downturn!

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I think of it as the "simple life." Simple but free, as the Shakers said.

Glad you're among us, Justice. (I love your name!)

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Maybe if you hadn't spent all your money on rock and roll records you wouldn't have wound up sleeping in your pickup!!!!

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You've got to drinking a lot of Kool-Aid to believe those are in any way related.

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Well, not all of us dine on possums and sewer rats, Mister. Some of us actually have culture and we listen to music. Jeez.

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Actually, my expenditures at the time were from a divorce and child support; couple that with a catastrophic medical procedure that kept me from working, (plus, having to pay out of pocket for) and the truck was a last option.

This happened during the Reagan Administration; sounds familiar today.

I bought books, not so many records. I made music, but so did Carl Sandburg.

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Sandburg? Word songs?

You bet.

I am a fan.

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Thank you for your post. Many people are suffering as you did right now and your story inspires.

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I appreciate the post very much. In my own worst days, I found the benefits of going to a bodega. One down the street from my barely livable apartment sold 'reyenos' for a dollar. It's potato stuffed with spices and meat. For weeks one a day had to carry me. The starch and protein gave you the illusion of being full.

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My first month away at college - before I got my first check from work study - was very similar.

I went to school with basically no money at all. My mother and grandmother didn't have two nickels to rub together after bills, and my former principal's gift of $100 barely got me to campus when the cabbie was done with me.

After I unpacked everything, I went to this local grocery run by this Greek guy, Vassilios. The spare change I had left bought me a roll of braunschweiger, a bag of cheese puffs, and a two-liter of Pepsi. My dinner every night was three cheese puffs, a thin slice of braunschweiger, and maybe 4 ounces of Pepsi.

During the day, I just drank as much ice water as I could, to trick myself into being "full".

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Great post. For some among the upper crust, the rich really are different - but not in a good way. I know some "elite" deploy portions of their riches to benefit their fellow human beings, for society. But with too many, human misery is a non-starter for consideration, since, for them, the status assumed by their wealth requires an economic underclass as fearsome contrast. If everyone eats at Popham's - how will anyone tell the Beautiful People from the riff-raff? Their exclusive strata is so important, so central to their lives, their humanity is forfeit - willingly. In these cases, the rich are not merely different. They're mutant.


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I'll take that one a few steps further.

There is a "special" subset of people who take nourishment from the suffering and misery of others. It's an expensive luxury, to be sure. They are found in the circles that toss others out the door at work, in the circles who claim against all evidence that making things easier for the rich somehow benefits us all, and most especially in those who advocate the torture of someone in order to extract "information" they claim is of value.

What they are really about is taking that suffering as food and drink. A look at them reveals the face of evil. And they live in genuine fear of both exposure and the deprivation of their sustenance through the efforts of those who would ameliorate, rather than exacerbate, that suffering.

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Damn! That's one of the most clear descriptions of the sadists I have ever read here. No wonder Cheney weighs a half a ton. As the ability to torture slips away, his barely beating heart must be painfully failing. That explains his desperate comments in an effort to continue those atrocities.

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There is a "special" subset of people who take nourishment from the suffering and misery of others.

Yes, they're called sadists.

Sadism requires masochism to thrive.

Sadistic bullies are dependent on masochists. So long as we stand proud, they lose.

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I have to differ. Did the torturers find willing victims at Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib? Do wilding street punks hold victim auditions? Sadism merely requires a target of opportunity and the willingness to enjoy the inflicted suffering.

We agree on much, and I hold you in high esteem, TheraP. You are missing the boat on this one, though.

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Thank you for pointing out that oversight, Old Grouch. Of course I do not mean that any powerless victims are responsible for what happened. Yes, the perpetrators of crimes against humanity and abusers of children are sadists. As you say, a "target of opportunity is all they need.

So we could say that sadists can be found as torturers and abusers of those over whom they have total or near-total power. It is the power differential that makes the difference here.

But if someone is free stand up, and does, it breaks the illusion of power. (and that is crucial thing to keep in mind)

Thanks for that clarification. I'm sure you'll always set me straight. And let me know if there are any holes left in what I just said.

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I'll add one more thing. That's why it's important to call out torture for what it is. For if we do not, we are like masochists in the face of those who would torture others. Or we are fellow sadists. Either way, it's agreeing to evil.

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The above posts are not mutually exclusive. I totally agree that in this situation, there are a lot of masochists willing and even eager to accept the abuses heaped on people by the Bush regime.

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LisB,

Your posts are valued reality checks for all. Greatly appreciated and needed.

For some, the paths traveled and destinations reached never bring them 'home'. However, now you have two and we appreciate that you always have the welcome mat out at this one.


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Beautiful, intelligent, AND a shadowy past.....

Hope you find the right guy, or no guy, but either way...I'm free this evening!

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...me too, and, I like to dance.

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I see a lot of this at the soup kitchen. A couple trying to make it back home rolls into town and the tranny falls out of the Dodge. A cheap motel at $60/night, a few $20 meals at restaurants, a surprise $150 diagnostic cost from the repair shop and they are asking what to do. No car, no gas money, no home, no job. Throw in a few sick kids. Most eventually get it together and move on. Private charities are the ones providing food and shelter and bus tickets. Do folks come away as better after pulling themselves out of destitution? I think so. But it has to scar.
Bless you LisB.

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LisB:

Thank you for your unfailing courage to tell it as it is, or has been.

I hear you. Because I know something of what you've been through.

Yes, I started with advantages. I was raised and educated in relative comfort, worked hard to develop a career of my own, and sequentially married two Ivy graduates -- one who became a Wall Street stockbroker, and the other, an international lawyer.

You'd think -- wouldn't you? -- that all these advantages would be a fail-safe hedge against homelessness.

But you would have to think again. Because I've finally accepted that, in my case at least, one also has to factor in: the cumulative impact of my own repeated demonstrations of faulty judgment and/or self-sabotage (god help me, please say it wasn't masochism); some unanticipated malfeasance encountered along the way that I should have anticipated; and, as a topper, a completely random act of God made worse by its timing during the Bush administration.

The result? When you talk about homelessness, I do actually know whereof you speak.

For example:
a) if the stockbroker develops a costly cocaine habit and it brings out the physical sadist, rather than the gregarious party animal in him, things can become precarious.
b) and if, because you are still young, comely and far too proud you not only divorce him but also refuse the court's award of alimony (and thereby set a no-fault precedent for him to refuse to pay child support); and,
c)if you quickly realize that your "successful" career as a freelancer/consultant really only means that your income is feast or famine; that in fact, your independence is actually only made possible by the timely small gifts of cash from ancient maiden great aunts, and later, by the untimely early deaths of your parents); and,
c) if it turns out that the brilliant international lawyer you married next really meant it when he said he had no interest in owning a house, but if you did, you could buy one. And if it turns out that he is much fonder of hanging out on his Eurotrash client's helicopter and yacht than than he is of you, and that he spends more and more time in the south of France, because he has become addicted to passing for respectable while actually being totally ammoral, addicted to the risk of working for and with real criminals; and
d)if you attempt to divorce him, but after two years you can't get it done, because -- what were you thinking? -- he is a lawyer, after all, who therefore loves nothing more than the game of jacking up your legal fees by filing for endless continuances while coming after the house you paid for as "marital property" from the jurisdictional safety of Europe; and,
e)if, to protect your investment in the house, you transfer its title to your son and he, in a moment of temptation/irrational exuberance, uses its value to collateralize his purchase of two small beach condos; and,
f) if that house and both those condos are completely trashed, overnight, by a hurricane, but the mortages and taxes are owed anyway.....

Well, then:
g) after camping out in the ruins for months waiting for FEMA and your insurance adjustor; and, therafter,
h) refusing to mooch on family or friends....then

you, too, may end up living out of your car, and/or in short term rentals for a year -- having become a "high class" bag lady who not only drives but occasionally sleeps in her Mercedes.... before trading it in for a Honda.

Unlike your story, LisB, in which you made your decisions based on the priority of love, there's little excuse for me. Unless it was to end up here, with all of you, sheepishly acknowledging my own fault, as well the essential ironic humor, in my saga.

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WW. I'd say the obvious next step is... the great novel. Turn it into a movie, become fabulously wealthy, hunt down the two ex's and... Ok, maybe best to get steps #1 and #2 down first.

Granted, it's not that Buddhist an approach, but somehow a touch of justice seems in order, eh?

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I can't begin to express how I admire the courage it takes to tell of ones personal story and thereby lay bare that which we fear the most; our own unkind judgments of ourselves and the shame we quietly endure as a result. This is true especially when chance leaves shattered expectations about what life will be like and then makes demands that we survive on a landscape foreign to our experience.

So far I have not been able to do this myself as age, timing and a few wrong turns have left few options forward. I admire those who can and have done it.

wwstaebler is a hero. It would be an honor to have the next dance.

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Thank you, Mjeffn but, as I've just illustrated, more fool than hero here. But dance? Yes, please. I love to dance. That makes my day.

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WWS - you are a true friend. And....an even more true person.

Bless you.

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Hey, LisB. It's been wild, eh? And now thankfully calmer, if getting more worrisome. One thing that is funny in reference to something you said upthread: incredibly enough,I used to live in Locust Valley...

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Thanks for the identification of positive opportunities, empathetically advised, Quinn. (As it happens, I've already written 200 plus pages of the fictionalized version. But I know I do not have enough humor, yet, to make it fly --- although I do have the client (and his wife, whom I met and liked despite the fact that she was once a pole dancer in Paris) down pat. To make everything properly balanced, however, I do need both Nora Ephron's detachment and Santayana's certainty.)
Never mind.
The bottom line, as I see it, is that after a while we've all screwed up -- just some more than others and some for the right reasons and others, not.
At risk of embarrassing you, again, I personally think you reveal yourself to be, at heart, a white knight -- which has nothing to do with faux chivalry or 19th century romanticism and everything to do with personal honor and ethics. So it is easy for me to care about your experience, wanting it to be positively commensurate with your care about others. Therefore, because you probably missed it, you might recheck "Yes or No" for a comment I left for you, after the bell.

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you rawk.

and inspire.

Just like LisB.

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You are way too kind, Bwak, but please accept my thanks as someone who really respects YOU.

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WW. I'm incredibly pleased you're writing, and can't wait 'til the beast hits the shelves (these things ARE beasts, I believe, with lives of their own, and more than a few claws.) Also, your comment about "not yet," rings with some power for me. When life hands out its gifts, and then - surprise! - disasters, it's easy for one outside the experience to say, "that'd make a great novel" (which I just did, jackass that I can be)... and sometimes even easy enough to tell stories about & laugh over for a few hours... but to really write it, all of it... takes an enormous amount. Of soul. About all I can say along those lines is that I'm of the same view as Bwak, and Mjeffn (above.) Just reading yourself, and the mighty LisB, along with some of the other courageous folk in these parts, has strengthened me incredibly.

As for the knightly bit, I think DickD has positioned me almost perfectly, in his Fractured Fair Tale. The wanna-be knight (newly promoted!)... who travels in time... rants on at good length... and rides a donkey. I'd be utterly content in that world. Alas - and thank you for your previous note - things like "real estate" do tend to enter in & disrupt the quest.

Hurricane brewing, WW. I believe that's your cue. Lead on. ;-)

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Quinn: Are you inviting me to practice so that I may enter the annual Bulwer-Lytton contest for completing the opening phrase: "It was a dark and stormy night..."?
If so, we should all try it; the results are always hilarious.

About the phrase and the annual contest, from Wikipedia:

"The phrase "It was a dark and stormy night", made famous by comic strip artist Charles M. Schulz, was originally penned by Victorian novelist Edward Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Baron Lytton as the beginning of his 1830 novel, Paul Clifford.

The phrase itself is now understood as a signifier of a certain broad style of writing, characterized by a self-serious attempt at dramatic flair, the imitation of formulaic styles, an extravagantly florid style, redundancies, and run-on sentences.

Bulwer-Lytton's original opening sentence serves as an example:

'It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents, except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness.'

The annual Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest was formed to "celebrate" the worst extremes in this style. The contest is sponsored by the English Department of San Jose State University, recognizes the worst examples of "dark and stormy night" writing."

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I was homeless for a few days myself. Lived in my car, showered in gymnasium. Thank God those days are over :)

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