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Where Are The White People With Good Sense?

"Most little white children come from families powerful enough to shut out reality."
Jonathan Schwarz
"Four People Turned Stupid By Power"
A Tiny Revolution
I don't know if I agree with the modifier "most" that Schwarz uses here, but I can certainly see the point Schwarz is trying to make. And if there ever was a moment in time that this quote summarizes, it is today, Tuesday, September 8th, when a certain frenzied subset of our paler population will withdraw their budding genuises from school so that Little Johnny will not have to be subjected to listening to that bad, bad man, Mr. Barack Obama himself, otherwise known to us real Americans as the president of the United States.
"I am not going to give him unfiltered access to my kids."
I imagine HBO will see a drop in its subscriber base soon. I expect sales of the video game Grand Theft Auto will tail off into nothingness. And IPod's will litter landfills across the country. These predictions would make sense if these parents were telling the truth - that anything untoward should never come within a hundred yards of little Johnny's pristine ears unless it has been filtered.
What planet are these people raising their kids to live in? Johnny can't stay on the curb of his cul-de-sacs for the rest of his life.
Since our TV producers can't seem to come up with any other creative ways to get you to watch their news product this week, all we will be seeing is these people who will be snarling and howling and shrieking and yes, CRYING, as if Beelzebub himself is going to whisper his evil thoughts - study hard, read more, make goals for yourself - into little Johnny's ears.
So what I want to know is...
...where are all the white people with good sense these days?
Are they still on vacation?
Have they left the country?
Or are they just so ashamed of these people who look like them, who may be their cousins, or their coworkers, or their in-laws, that they don't want to be mentioned in the same sentence with them?
I've been thinking about these irrational parents that have been featured rather prominently on TV lately. You know who I'm talking about. They are wild eyed, or teary eyed, and sanctimonious, and all of them are white, and they swear that if President Barack Obama so much as breathes in Johnny's direction during the school day, he will have their kids calling each other "comrade" by the time they come home.
Which is interesting, because many of these parents don't even know what socialism really is. Couldn't tell you what the tenets of communism are if a years worth of gas for their SUV was at stake.
I've been thinking about these parents quite a bit lately, because some of them are my neighbors. They are the people who will just about have a stroke if their child's teacher assigns their kid homework on the weekend, that sacrosanct time here in LaLa Land that is mandated to be filled with fun, fun, fun - four wheeling and jet skiing and hunting and fishing and SEC football games and soccer matches and birthday celebrations.
But if Johnny doesn't listen to his parents now, as any outing to a local restaurant will confirm, then what makes these moist eyed mommies think that their "wittle munchkins" are going to listen to the president while he talks on a TV screen in their classroom?
Another phrase, one that I've heard through the years that may hone in a little closer to what I want to say today is this:
"If you want to see where stupid children come from, follow them home."
That point was driven home Saturday night while I was reading an article by a friend of mine:
"Tom Hui is a self-described video game lover. Michelle Liu calls herself a nerd. Marissa Pan simply likes books, and Tanya Nguyen prefers balance in her life.
What do they have in common? All scored 2400 on the SAT, putting them in the elite company of 297 nationwide and 10 in Georgia earning perfect scores last year."
Gracie Bonds Staples
"Four Area Students Score 2400 On SAT -- Perfect"
Atlanta Journal Constitution
After reading a story like the one above, why are the white parents that will be paraded across our airwaves today, prattling on about the president's powers of hypnosis, even relevant?
These four real American children in the excerpt above all attended public schools.
I live less than five hundred yards from a public library, which I frequent several times a week. There are so few white children in there at times, you would think you were in a foreign country instead of an Atlanta northern suburb.
What I want to know is what these people are going to do when this brownskinned president stays on their TV year after year? Even if you only watch FOX News, guess what? They don't have a storyline if it doesn't include Obama. When are they going to do when he stays on the front page of their newspaper week after week?
Are they going to lock Johnny in a closet, like the child abductors in the news this week? Are they going to build ideological bunkers behind their houses, and set off air raid signals whenever the stench of liberalism draws near?
The best protection for your child is an appreciation of knowledge for knowledge's sake. An understanding of the basic tenets of critical thinking. And a facility with the English language that includes mastery of a vocabulary large enough to recognize the nuances that differentiate the meaning of one word from the next when someone is speaking to you.
But that, as my mother would say, is too easy. Makes too much sense. Instead, these people will do the thing they always do, the way Rick Pitino did when he went into a rampage a couple of weeks ago at a news conference while discussing the latest allegations from his adulterous sexual dalliance - claim that the truth is what they are telling you, and that everything else is all lies.
Where are the white people with good sense these days?
Are you out there?
Right about now, if the script was flipped, and these were black people doing this, I would have already been approached by someone white by now who would ask me, point blank, "why are they doing this?"
But if they don't want their Johnny listening to the president of ALL of these United States as he gives out the kind of simple advice - study hard, read more, make goals for yourself - that helped to get Obama where he is today, that's fine.
Put President Obama's speech on for the black kids.
Jamal WILL be listening.
Put it on for the Asian kids.
Jiao WILL be listening.
Put it on for the Hispanic kids.
Javier WILL be listening.
Put it on for the Indian kids.
Jharma WILL be listening.
Put it on for the children of all our immigrants, for their parents who have defied every challenge in the book to get to the real America, the one that has "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses" tattooed to the base of the Statue of Liberty.
The thing about white people with good sense is...
...they are boring.
The same way black people and Asian people and Hispanic people and Indian people with good sense are boring.
Which is why you won't see them in front of any TV cameras today.
They'll be the ones soberly helping their children to master their A-B-C's and 1-2-3's. Demanding that homework get done before play time begins. Adding enrichment programs and activities on their own to bolster what the school teaches. Helping their children learn, one day at a time, how to navigate this thing we call life without having to depend on slogans and jingles and propaganda of any kind to give them their own sense of personal direction.
Training them, in other words, to deal with the world and its realities rather than look for an excuse to opt out.
I don't know what these people are worried about.
Because if Barack Obama was really the Malcolm X type of political radical they make him out to be...
...he'd schedule a speech to school children every other week to MAKE SURE these people took little Johnny out of class each and every time.
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Gee, spouting stupid racist aphorisms at whites is really useful.
Grow up. Read. Do something with your brain. You're close, obvious you can put sentences together. Now see if you can rise a notch and put some semantics together that aren't obnoxious.
September 8, 2009 3:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right back at you, Desi. Is this your day of the week to be a jerk, or is that every day?
And speaking of obnoxious semantics, where's your latest post, so she'll have an example of really obnoxious semantics?
And, Dick? Desi isn't brighter than you. Period.
September 8, 2009 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Where are the White people with good sense?" Is this "Stupid fucking honkie" day? Is this "white guilt day"? Is this "all you palefaces look and act the same" day? Where do you I go to get my Gringo card punched? Why is not listening to an Obama speech more embarrassing than the destructive activities of the last POTUS for 8 long years? Billions of people of all colors believe that some guy getting impaled painfully on a beam "saved" the planet, which led directly to 2000 more years of extreme inhumanity and suffering to prove how saved mankind is. And that's only one religion. Line me up those smart kids of yours - I'll figure out what absurd nonsense they've got stuffed away behind their ears, behind their penchant for spelling bees and math teams and aced SAT's, whether they're a Hiu or a Kowalski or a Nderitu or a Gomez or a Shaw. If there's one thing we can unify on, we're a coarse, deluded and easily manipulated species. And those Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals probably weren't much better.
September 8, 2009 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess the dumb people don't get tongue in cheek or sly.
I'm pretty sure the author doesn't hate white people (you DON'T DO you, KRIS??).
How much of racial chip on your shoulder does it take to take offense to this WELL DISCLAIMERED, light post?
(on a serious subject... PLEASE DON'T KILL ME KRIS!!)
WTF? YOU need the education. Start with Gulliver's Travels.
Here's a hint: IT ISN'T REALLY ABOUT GIANTS AND TINY PEOPLE!!!
Then try listening to "The White Man's Gotta God Complex" by The Last Poets. Naw might be too advanced.
If you REALLY want to make us white folks look less silly STOP POSTING.
September 8, 2009 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I seem to recall that Desidero was one of the people back in the primaries denying that Hillary Clinton was playing to the white vote--you know the "hard working folks." Some people can't see racism when it's smacking them in the face. You wonder why.
September 8, 2009 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some people think attacking whites is also racism, i.e. white is a color last time I checked my crayon box.
September 9, 2009 8:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am trying to catch the sense here and recommended finally.
You make good points, and I am not sure Desi has it right on the racist angle, but he might. He is brighter than me.
I am a boor but not boring, at least in my mind's eye.
Working hard, studying hard can be a challenge. Ten thousand hours should be the new mantra.
It takes ten thousand hours to learn a craft. But to be good at that craft you have to love it, REALLY LOVE IT.
September 8, 2009 4:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Desi's a hysteric. Good intentions. Sometimes. Maybe. But he's way out of line here.
I mean, doesn't it say something that Laura Bush is the most prominent white person to come out (sort of) swinging on Obama's side?
Where are our own? Hiding in the bunker and trying to figure a way out of voting for the public option?
September 8, 2009 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
If stupid white people ever forget they bear sole guilt for all this country's deficiencies, your acid contempt will bring them around. Although, within that framework, it's not hard to understand why most of them don't listen: They probably earn a fraction of Mr. Schwarz' income, and, being human, dislike being spat on.
September 8, 2009 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
...where are all the white people with good sense these days?
Are they still on vacation?
Have they left the country?
Or are they just so ashamed of these people who look like them, who may be their cousins, or their coworkers, or their in-laws, that they don't want to be mentioned in the same sentence with them?
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Putting the tea-baggers on camera makes for good television. Having a guy rant about "not wanting government to interfere with his Medicare" is entertaining. Having people detail how a private insurance company denied payment for a cancer treatment or rehab is boring.
When news happens in a Black neighborhood, the camera will often skip by the black man or woman in the business suit or work uniform and focus on the black person with a gold-plated mouth, poor diction and wearing low hanging jeans to describe the event. The public believes that the face on film IS the black community. The same thing is occurring in current discussions of health care, etc. The gun-toting whiners asking for "their" country back are not representative of the White community. White Conservatives acquaintances express concern about safety for Obama given the gun-toters and heated rhetoric. These Conservatives also say that they have never seen politicians behave in the rancorous manner that is present today. The cooler heads are being ignored.
The post is pointing out that a skewed view of Whites is constantly being transmitted across our airwaves.
September 8, 2009 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sigh.
September 8, 2009 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
You should of posted the old prospector on the roof announcing the sheriff's arrival. But I guess you think something like that could never happen in America. Or maybe you think that all those people who thought like that miracously changed their view with the signing of the Civil Rights Act.
September 8, 2009 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
All that from a single word and short clip?
I think I found the roshak tests of comments!
September 8, 2009 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's where some of us are: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112622675&ps=rs
Near universal condemnation of NPR playing parrot and providing the Cato Institute and a member of the Texas School Board to trash Obama's address to the nation. I was there before the show finished being broadcast, and even that didn't gain me number one spot.
But how to get anyone's attention? I'm guessing that most kids were in school today and most kids heard the President speak, just as most kids were in school to hear Ronald Reagan tell them to say no to drugs a generation ago. How many? A pretty accurate number could be retreived by one or two reporter interns and a bank of phones in a couple of days. But it won't happen. Normal parents doing normal things with normal students in normal schools aren't news--even if a media that raised this tempest in a teapot should have made them news. Someplace around the house I have a plaque where reads, "On this very spot, 200 years ago, absolutely nothing happened". Af far as the News Media are concerned, those parents of whatever coloar who acted normally are absolutely nothing happening.
September 8, 2009 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't blame white people for anything. They simply have not had enough time to adjust to world domination:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6814896.ece
September 8, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Neoboho. Thats an interesting link.
September 8, 2009 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! The content of this site would be reduced quite a bit if posters and bloggers couldn't use race as their default explanation for any disagreement with Obama. Why not try going out on a limb, take a chance and just try considering that there might possibly be some other issue besides race causing people to act the way they are acting. I know it's too much to ask.
Where's the Fairness Doctrine when you need it?
September 8, 2009 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems the problem is that race can't be brought in as a factor unless it is the only factor.
I mean do you really think this would be happening all other things being equal (no pun intended), if Obama was the traditional white guy. Do you think there would be someone pulling his kid out of school so that Clinton fellar couldn't get unfiltered access to his child.
Race is not the whole issue, but it has a lot to do with the frenzy level is at a 9, rather than a 4 or a 5.
And from comments here and elsewhere, it seems that many people believe racism has been dealt with in the sixities, that people just don't think that way (except for that loony fringe) so there is no need to discuss this. Nothing to see here, just keep moving.
September 8, 2009 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
True and I'd point out the knee-jerk "oh he's playing the race card" is racist too.
And a hard-worn conservative talking point, so she isn't ORIGINAL either...
September 8, 2009 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
acamus, cc: igotmyreasons and twoviragos
Well, OK you guys, I give up. What was I thinking?
I was thinking that his socialistic ways might be the trigger. Let's pretend he got elected as a Republican with conservative values(as if that could happen, because of that race-thing). Do you think there would be this kind of uproar?
I'm sure YOU do(because of that race-thing), but I think his politics cause him more problems than his color. I mean he hasn't changed shades since he was elected. It's not like the people who voted for him are just realizing he's bi-racial.
September 8, 2009 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The people who voted for him are not the ones out making assholes of themselves at town meetings or crying about their children being indoctrinated. And what do you mean, "what was I thinking?" From your post it's clear that you are not capable of thinking. To start with he doesn't have socialist ways and to end with go fuck yourself and do it on another website. I'm sick of the shit you people think you have a right to spew. Go tell your lies elsewhere.
September 8, 2009 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
My guess is that these wingnuts are part of the 58,343,671 who voted for McCain (if they did vote).
September 8, 2009 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said, twoviragos, well said.
September 8, 2009 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
As I said in my first response, it is not all about race. Yes there would still be a frenzy around Obama because people think he's a socialist (and, if so, so is every farmer in America who has taken a subsidy from the feds, every senior on medicare, etc. etc. etc. etc.), but it is the level of intensity.
If he was a conservative Republican, it would be the left wing of Democrats who would getting upset, and I would posit (to which you may disagree) this is a lot heated racism in the left wing of the Democrats than there is on the right wing of the Republicans. So while there might be some posters out there slamming him for the speech, people wouldn't be pulling their kids out of school.
September 8, 2009 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
dang - of course that should read "a lot less heated racism in the Left Wing..."
September 8, 2009 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for being so much more reasonable in your response than me. I have said it elsewhere. I'm a woman on the edge a la Peter Finch in Network.
September 8, 2009 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Getting close to thinking Peter had it right.
September 8, 2009 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't apologize. By my lights you get two thumbs up. Anybody who thinks race has nothing to do with the way Obama's being treated spends too much time in an alternate universe.
And the socialism stuff, it's just swiftboating. They tried it during the campaign and it didn't quite stick, but now it's beginning to and they're on it like a dog on a bone.
Then in the other breath, he's in the dock for selling out to Wall Street.
Go figure.
September 8, 2009 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, for a while now I have been fighting the urge to declare racism but I'm over it. They just want their country back.
September 8, 2009 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right so nothing concrete. I'm vindicated.
September 8, 2009 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Feel free to offer ONE CONCRETE REASON people protested Obama's address to schoolchildren...
Good luck with that.
September 8, 2009 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
((((crickets chirping))))
September 8, 2009 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because they protest everything. It's called being in the opposition. They oppose. The would have done it with Kerry, they would have done it with Gore, they did it with Clinton, they would have done it with Dukakis.
September 9, 2009 8:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who is your avatar? I can't quite tell. Is it Barbra Streisand? If so, say no more, troll.
September 8, 2009 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find it really interesting that people are so quick to jump up Kris' ass for his post. I wrote essentially the same thing yesterday and everyone agreed with me. Did you happen to notice the line at the end that says we need to question our own assumptions? And for those of you who don't think that a lot of the bullshit being directed at Obama has racist elements to it, you are naive. Yes, you will see from my avatar that I am, as I said yesterday, a white woman. But my son is bi-racial and I will tell you that raising a child who is black is an eye opener. Yes folks, there's still racism out there and it's prevalent, and if we can't take it and learn when we are called out on it then we have gotten no where.
And Kris, I wrote to my son's school and told them that I thought questioning our president who wants to speak to our children is both disrespectful and racist. I was told I was over reacting. I called my local NPR station after they ran an interview with some hysterical white bitch this morning to tell them they needed to tell both sides of the story and that I would be glad to go on the record and they blew me off. There are people out there trying to speak up, but you have to know how it is by now. White people like to pretend that racism is limited instead of pervasive.
September 8, 2009 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for your post. Kris notes that your point of view is not being carried by the media. Instead we get a steady flow of tea-baggers.
Rational White people are being marginalized just like African-Americans and Latinos.
September 8, 2009 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is true and it's not true. Barney Frank was all over the news and the net when he hit back.
I'm not proposing that you and I start screaming and creating out own ruckus Ă la the teabggers and birthers.
But there is definitely a crisis of leadership. Where Republicans come out on the side of their base, Democrats leave us stranded all the time. Of course because they take our votes for granted.
But where were the best Democratic representatives money can buy in this issue? Where were our Democratic governors and mayors?
Where were they?
September 8, 2009 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
At first I thought this article was about race until the author clearly states that the good white people are boring and that is why they haven't been visible.
There is a quote by MLK, and no I am using King because he is black. It goes something like history greatest tragedy is not the bad deeds of bad people, it's the silence of the good people.
How does that thought tie into what the author was saying. If good people can not be heard, is the silence their burden ? It's not that we are silent, it's that we aren't loud enough to boost ratings.
Anyways, I like the article. I just hope minorities are kinder to us when they take power then we have been to them. And for the record, a lot of us good white people put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into fighting tooth and nail to get our President in office.
September 8, 2009 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for your observation. I have literally stopped watching MSM on my television with the exception of Olbermann and Maddow. White people that I converse with are amazed at the crap being flung at Obama. The opinions of like minded Whites are absent from my tv screen.
Lou Dobbs of CNN and Glenn Beck of Fox have virtually declared a media war on Obama. Much of the rest of the media considers the wingnuts to be sane individuals with whom you can have a rational exchange.
A large part of the problem is a media that does not consider the majority of the White community to be important.
September 8, 2009 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I have been saying this in blog after blog. In chat rooms etc. People agree but still want to find some other reason because they really do not want to accept the fact that a large portion of this country is still back in the 1860s as far as race is concerned.
All those who are yelling "Nazi" and "Hitler" and "Socialist" and what not are just too damn chicken shit to utter what they are really thinking. "GET THAT F**** N**** OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE"
Just once I would like to here one of them say that. The honesty would be so refreshing.
C
September 8, 2009 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would definitely be less likely to focus on the issue of race if those in the leadership of the GOP and conservative movement would have the courage to stand up and say that there some in their midst who are out and out racists (be they fringe or not) and probably a good number more that have unexamined racist views that bend their feelings Obama and his policies. Instead all we get is some variation of "people don't think that way anymore" and "the real racists are just a fringe."
When Jessie Jackson made his infamous Macaca remark about NYC, there were plenty of those on the Left who wouldn't let him get away with some lame excuse, "gee I didn't know that calling Jews Hymies was a racist comment." (he didn't use this excuse, he did at first try denial, or a rather a non-denial denial) Those on the Left went on to explore as where this racist view came from in the African American community, rather than denying the problem existed.
September 8, 2009 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
It just so happens that I did a multi-part series titled "White Americans and the Politics of Race" during last year's presidential campaign season, one that I think has become a classic for the way it attempted to analyze white Americans and the way they think about black people.
Check it out. I thought it was a damn good series. An excerpt from the intro is below:
I am approximately six feet tall – a little taller than the average American male, but not tall enough to really tower over a gathering of other adults. Every once in awhile, though, I find myself in a social situation where I am standing on a riser or a step or an incline that lifts me just two or three inches higher than my normal height. From the vantage point that someone six-two or six-three would have, the world looks entirely different. The people look different, as if I am getting to see another angle of who they are. Just that slight shift in my perspective lets me see, at least for a little while, what tall guys see when they look at the rest of us.
This is what is missing from the debate on race and the affect it is having on the presidential election - a comprehensive look at the perspectives of white people, including those who, despite similar political beliefs or party affiliation, are having a problem voting for Barack Obama. The punditocracy gives the topic lip service, jumping from the question of why this is a problem straight to their favorite labels – Soccer Mom, Walmart Mom, NASCAR Dad, Joe Six Pack, Ma and Pa Kettle, Evangelical voters, Values voters, Rural voters, Bubba voters – before spouting off a pat answer that assumes these voters are either in love with the idea of a black president, or ready to kill the first black president. But if black people, as we have been asserting for some time, aren’t monolithic, why should we believe anything different about white Americans?
So I started doing some research, even before the polls started to record the phenomena of white Democrats who could not fathom voting for a black man last week, just to see what COULD be going on with my white brethren. I ran into a very good sources, including one whose findings anchor this series, The Black Rage In The White Mind, by Robert Entman and Andrew Rojecki. Their study categorized white racial thinking in four ways:
Racial comity and understanding
Multi-dimensional conceptual thinking – can hold positive and negative views and acknowledge that having varied interests do not make black and white interests mutually exclusive.
Racial ambivalence
A complicated combination of assumptions, misinformation, emotional needs, experiences and personality traits that all bear on a white person’s thinking about race. Can sometimes allow him to deny the existence of racism.
Racial animosity
Persistent pathological biases that include stereotyping, denial, political rejection, demonization and fearful, angry emotions. Can include the extent to which white people see themselves as having group interests that conflict with those of blacks.
Racist
Believe blacks share such homogeneously negative characteristics that they must be an inferior rank of human against whom discrimination is inevitable and justifiable.
To really have a chance at understanding the origin and motivations of these four different points of view, we’ve got to back up a bit and look at how we process the information we receive. One thing that all of these states of mind have in common are the basic cognitive functions of perception - attention and emotion - which are functions essential to an individual's knowledge of the world and themselves.
Hopefully, this exploration of racial thinking can utilize the traditional building blocks of perception to provide a clearer picture of how white Americans tend to think when they think about race.
September 8, 2009 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the blog post and the link
September 8, 2009 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kris, two things:
1. Your "White Americans and the Politics of Race" is an enlightening, if somewhat scary, series on racial thinking.
2. You live in the wrong damn part of Atlanta. Seriously.
September 8, 2009 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
And for a look into racism in American and the way it is expressed through other codes, one of the best videos from the election -- AFL-CIO's Richard Trumka on racism and Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QIGJTHdH50
September 8, 2009 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for linking that - I saw that during the election and thought it was great. Good to see it again.
September 8, 2009 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I posted this elsewhere a few days ago, and feel like it is worth posting again. This is from a German pastor who did not speak up during the Holocaust and later came to regret it. If people want to pretend that a portion of this unrestrained anger from the right is not racially motivated, then they need to think twice. If we don't fight back now, the battle is lost.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller
September 8, 2009 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
We are in our homes decrying this to our children.
We are on this blog.
We are in our church pews.
We are on our Facebook pages.
We are in our neighborhoods!
This reaction by GOP party apparatchniks is nothing but a transparent appeal to racism. "White Americans Wake Up!" as Jesse Helms would say.
The good news is that the next generation is not nearly as racist as the past four. We are making good progress, but we cannot give up the fight!
September 8, 2009 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, sorry I have to call BS on this post. If a conservative site was to post a blog about "Where are the Black People with good sense" because most blacks are democrats and disagree with them based on political principles, you'd call them racist. And you'd be right. The inverse is no less offensive. In fact there are plenty of whites (and people of color) standing up against such nonsense.
The unhinged conservatives have always been on the attack. The criticism of Obama's school speech was not because hes black. It's because the Dept of Education was stupid enough to release lesson plans for kids to write an assignment on how they can help the President and suggesting they read Obama's books. Instead of asking them what you can do for your country, the Dept of Education asked what they could do for Barack Obama. Inappropriate. Beyond stupid. And feeding into the paranoia of conservatives about the indoctrination of children. Whoever came up with the suggested lesson plans should have been fired.
So what happened post-speech (and without the lesson plan)? Conservatives by large measure praised the speech because it was based in traditional values.
But the larger question is why must any criticism of Obama be assumed to be racially motivated? A bit of a reality check, but Bill and Hillary were being accused of murder by these folks on the right. That's a touch more unhinged and incendiary than calling him Marxist. Are there some folks who object to Obama based on race? Sure. But there are others who dislike him based on political beliefs and you do a great disservice when you don't even try to see the other person's viewpoint because you put on the it's all racial blinders.
September 8, 2009 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's funny cuz Bush 1 asked kids to write him letters on how they could help him and his presidency. But that was in the ACTUAL ADRESS so I can see how a scrapped lesson plan might bug you.
BTW there was nothing asking them to read his books, either.
As Palin would say "stop making stuff up!"
September 8, 2009 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
...and the Democrats criticized Bush I at the time for his partisan hackery in speeches to kids. I totally agree - whether it's a Republican or a Democrat - it. is. wrong. Period.
ANd I believe the original lesson plan had on the recommended reading list the following books.
http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obama-Promise-Child-Hope/dp/1416971440
and
http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Jonah-Winter/dp/0061703923/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252465033&sr=1-1
Which I think is not scary or indoctrinating, but egotistical. Jeez. How about suggesting books about people hat inspired Obama instead of books about himself. If GHWB or GWB pulled that crap in my child's school, I would pulled them out. It has no place in the classroom. But again, this is a criticism of the Dept of Education and their poorly thought out lesson plan, not of Obama's speech itself which was perfectly on point.
September 8, 2009 11:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right and when you provide a link that SAYS these were in the lesson plan I'll believe it too LOL.
As for hackery there wasn't any, well all know that (cept you maybe)
September 8, 2009 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This may help:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53656
TEACHERS had a lesson plan that suggests reading books ABOUT Obama for class background.
Now we wouldnt want the TEACHERS to know anything about Obama now would we.
Google... look into it.
Good night.
September 8, 2009 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for using teh Google. Now let's work on your reading comprehension. The books were suggested for recommended reading to their lesson plans to the class to build knowledge about the President. Most teachers I know do not read books intended for kids K-5 unless they plan to use them in class.
September 8, 2009 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the ACTUAL TEXT from lesson plan (again Google is a GREAT learning tool):
OMIGOD!!! THE HACKERY!!! TEACHERS THAT KNOW STUFF!! OH NO!!!
Any questions??
September 8, 2009 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
...and when the lesson plan says reading books about president Obama that means most Kindergardeners can't read that book themselves. My only question is can you admit you are wrong or is your only talent cheesy and childish one liners? :)
September 8, 2009 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I was wrong I'd admit it... here's what you said:
It isn't the case and hasn't been.
I guess i need to add a second line here since you don't enjoy "one liners."
Feel free to take your own advice and admit your mistake.
September 9, 2009 12:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
My mistake. Books about Obama, not Obama's books. My point still stands. Politically tone-deaf of the Department of Education to include it on a lesson plan.
September 9, 2009 12:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wrong.
There's nothing controversial about suggesting TEACHERS bone up on the presidency or Obama. That is precisely why these words are STILL IN the lesson plan and why even the most rabid on the right won't go there.
They won't, but to you it's "tone deaf" to suggest teachers might learn or know something about our president.
It just isn't.
Perhaps in some alternate world having teachers knowing as little as possible about our president is preferable to this supposed tone deafness. So far that place seems, thankfully, to be inhabited by only one person.
September 9, 2009 1:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Again. Reading comprehension is important. The recommended reading was not for the teachers self-knowledge. It was suggested as things they could read to their class or include as a lesson plan to build their knowledge of the president. Not their own. If a teacher wants to learn about Obama, they can read a newspaper not a children's book.
If there must be children's books read about political figures, I'd prefer they be about past presidents. Like Good Night Bush. One of my faves.
September 9, 2009 1:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I looked at the lesson plan and didn't see any suggestion this material be read to students. It was for teachers to read to have "background information," and it also said they could read about presidents and/or this president. A completely benign suggestion that you (as a teacher) might teach better if you have some actual information (no titles suggested either).
Feel free to post a credible link saying otherwise.
September 9, 2009 1:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
crickets...
September 10, 2009 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't know about Good Night Moon until I had kids and people gave it to me - I thought they were joking. "What kind of trash is this?" Not even a plot like the Very Hungry Caterpillar (though that one's a bit violent for the wee ones).
But until someone writes "The Very Hungry Mr. Bush" it will have to do.
September 9, 2009 8:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
George Herbert Walker Bush gave a speech to the Alice Deal School in Washington DC. during the speech Bush Sr asked the students to "Write me a letter -- and I'm serious about this one -- write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address." Ronald Reagan's speech to school children included a statement on why tax cuts would help their parents.
http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450
The videos of the Reagan, Bush Sr and Obama school speeches can be found on the same page on C-SPAN.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2009/09/04/HP/A/22807/US+Presidents+Address+Students.aspx
No apologies or firings are needed from the Obama administration. The wingnuts got their moment in the sun and their rants end up looking deranged after the speech.
September 8, 2009 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
See above.
September 8, 2009 11:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dij wrote:
Absolutely and how quickly people forget! I've been trying to make this same point this past weekend to deaf ears.
Look what was circulating on the Internet in 1998!
My concern is that both left and right will start defining everything in terms of race -- which gets into "he said/she said." Note how smoothly Obama never does that (the Gates issue being his one -- human -- error in this regard). I think it's far more effective to use the techniques that the right has used during the past 8 years: call someone unAmerican for not supporting the idea that the POTUS can talk to children. In fact, we used to call that patriotic!
It's a sad fact, but you can't go in an rewire people's brains... so you must let these notions simply burn out of society through death of a generation. For people about 50 years and older, race is an issue. Much less so for those younger. For people 35 years and older sex is an issue, less so for those younger. And for those younger than about 25 years of age, orientation issues are much less of an issue.
We won't ever be in a society that's not prejudiced, but significant strides have been made. Now we must let time take care of the rest.
I was in a group this weekend where someone (who was from the right) brought up this Obama-talks-to-kids-bit. I was probably to the left of most, but I simply said: "C'mon...this is nonsense, is it not?"
Believe it or not, that phrase and the appropriate look (you know the one - you used to see it on kindergarten teachers' faces!), not only nipped it in the bud, but had several people relieved. And then the conversation turned to how these things have gotten out of control and the need to start being rational again. Race was never brought up... but several people left with the idea that they needed a better news source than FNC.
Progress!
September 8, 2009 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
We'd really have to have to have more info on those opposing Obama on the school speech, health care etc. to see if your stereotypes are correct.
For example the Carrie Prejean, the x Donald Trump beauty queen, falls in the younger age group, but fits the older group stereotype for feelings about homosexuality. We really don't know the racial biases of those opposing Obama along varying age groups, so we are down to perceptions. Your colorblind perception may be correct. The race-based bias against an African-American President may be correct. The blog allows both views to be argued.
It will be interesting to see if your cluster of friends actually use sources other than FNC for news on a consistent basis in the future.
September 9, 2009 12:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Which stereotype of older people and homosexuals? There are lots of older people that are fine with gays. I know elderly conservatives who don't have problems with gays, but will go on and on about Muslims. There are lots of young people who are troubled about homosexuality. The majority of these demographics might swing one way or the other (sic), but that doesn't mean there are a lot of absolutes there. Hollywood and Frisco and Florida and New York have always been mixed in these areas for probably a century, and people have dealt with it likely better than inside the coasts.
September 9, 2009 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Canada.
And parts of Vermont.
September 9, 2009 12:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
What the hell are you talking about? You want your state back? We'll give you Acadia too. Just stop all that French speaking. Unseemly.
Hey Marge, that Canuck kid was around again asking for quarters. Maybe should get him to mow the lawn or something, seems kind of hard up.
September 9, 2009 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink