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When Will BET Pull Its Jeans Up?



I almost never watch award shows - no Oscars, no Grammys, no VMA's.

The prewritten jokes these shows insist on including in their presentations are usually so bad they would fall flat on their own, but when they are half heartedly delivered by half lit guests, they are guaranteed to bomb.

So I was outside doing some yard work when the BET awards came on. I knew this because S. stuck her head out of the basement door to tell me. But since I didn't normally watch these things, she wasn't surprised when the "naaaw" popped out of my mouth.

As I started emptying my weeds from the bucket I'd collected them in, I could see shapes wiggling on the big screen TV across what looked like a stage, even from where I stood all the way out at the edge of the patio. The mower came out next, trimming the grass I'd planted back in April down to fairway length. By the time I finished watering the backyard, it was almost dark. I opened the door to the basement, kicked off my shoes, and joined S. on the couch in the basement just as Jamie Foxx was finishing an electric guitar solo.

S. was shocked.

I figured I would only sit there with her for a few minutes, to try to put in a little togetherness time, but once I sat down, I was hooked.

Overlooking the ignorant sketch Jamie Foxx did with Martin Lawrence that reprised the roles of the fictional ghetto women they made famous - Wanda and Sheneneh - I was entertained enough by the high notes of the evening to overlook its weak moments.

I guess I don't listen to the radio enough - I kept asking S. "who is that" over and over as the singers and presenters came to the stage. Maybe it was the picture of a dead man, hovering above everything, that gave the performers, even the not so good ones, an extra "oomph". Maybe it was the idea of an awards show whose theme for the night was based around the music of a man and a family who actually sang real songs over originally produced melodies that provided a level of gravitas that has probably never existed at a BET awards show.

By the time Don Cornelius came out, after a rousing tribute by a well dressed Johnny Gill, Tyrese, and a younger singer I've never heard of, I was almost ready to give Debra Lee, the president of BET, some props.

"She looks like she had been up for days," I said to S. about Lee as she addressed the audience.

"I imagine so, with all the last minute stuff they had to do."

I smiled. "I think she was up for days trying to convince the bigwigs at MTV to cough up some real cheese for a change to pay for all this."

We joked some more about Ms. Lee as she stood on stage, thanking her staff, and her audience, and her performers. To me she looked like a school superintendent. School superintendents almost always look alike - well fed and well turned out - no matter how bad their school system is.

From there on in was mostly the grown up end of the show, with the O'Jays and Maxwell showing us how good African American men could look as they entertained us. The guys with their pants hanging off their asses? Including Jay-Z? The guys with the tattoos and piercings from here to next week? They weren't African American artists. They are Ridiculous American artists. They are Stupid American artists. If there is anybody who just happens to be black, it is these clowns.

I thought about Al Sharpton, who was in the audience, IN A SUIT, him and Jessie Jackson and all the other reverends and community leaders, who have insisted for so long that we have to meet our youth in the streets where they live. Is that because we want them to stay in the street?

I thought about Ms. Lee, superintendent of BET, and wondered if her children wore their pants hanging off of their asses, or had tattoos over half of their bodies, or pieces of metal sticking through their tongues. Is her bonus based on maintaining the Negro status quo on BET's shows? But then again - if she gave us programming more like they have at TV One, which doesn't have an audience large enough to sustain itself, would BET end up in the same boat?

Then I thought about Mark Sanford, and all his sanctimony, and started thinking about how sour I was starting to sound, especially when I knew damn well that I'd grown up on rap music, and had listened heartily to the raunchy strip club raps by Uncle Luke and all the rest - but in the strip clubs, where they belonged, not on TV where every third word had to be bleeped out.

I thought about all this for awhile, but the thing that kept coming back to me as Jamie Foxx called it a night was the double breasted pinstriped suit that Don Cornelius wore. It was the same style of suit he'd worn for years as the host of Soul Train. It didn't matter whether the acts he interviewed after they performed on his show were wearing bell bottoms, or go go boots, or shiny space age suits, or barely anything at all - you knew Don was going to be there in that same old suit, with that same old clear, crisp Roscoe Lee Brown style diction, and that same old halting attempt at pronouncing a new slang term, as if he was a professor of music instead of a TV producer.

It was that classic double breasted suit, updated with an even more sophisticated chalk stripe and double vented jacket, more carefully tailored to a younger, more athletic frame, that Maxwell wore to complement his new haircut while he performed. That white ticker tape looking stuff that floated down from the ceiling as Maxwell pranced around the stage reminded me of the classic picture of the Obama family during the election that has them showered with the same stuff.

Maxwell gets it.

Don Cornelius never forgot it.

And I've seen The Jigga Man in suits - nice ones - and pants that fit around his waist, so I guess he must be backsliding. Or trying to sell some records.

When will the stragglers amongst us decide to pull their jeans up - or better yet, buy some real damn pants - and rejoin the rest of us African Americans?

When will we, the silent majority, put our clickers where our mouths are, and tune in en masse to the things we say we want to see when they finally get on TV?

In the meantime, will someone please tell me what "autotune" is?

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Hmmm, I think you're asking, "when will supermodels start dressing like office managers?" They're not so much musicians as trendy fashion statements.

Curiously I'd put together a list of black bands earlier today to remind myself and some others of the days when there seemed like there could be some diversity in black music, including Fishbone, Tackhead, African Head Charge, Body Count, Living Colour, Lee Scratch Perry working with Adrian Sherwood, combined with Tracey Chapman on the folk side and Public Enemy on the in-your-face politico-poetico hip hop tip, and all the Youssou N'Dour and South African bands (including the influential white Johnny Klegg and the scene that evolved there) coming out of Africa at the time.

Now we've gone from a million possibilities to one reality. Quite boring.

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Let me be the first to point out that there's still the odd black band that breaks the perceived mold.

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And still verboten in my neck of the woods which may explain why I don't know them, whoever them are.

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Too bad. I think you would have appreciated the video. Google: TV on the Radio, the song is 'Province'.

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Chuleto, how I love that band and that song. I keep them on regular rotation on my iPod. Gives me some music cred when the iPod accidentally shuffles to Footloose in public :)

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I got distracted by these guys, full of multicultural spunk and musical weirdness, so bad they may turn out to be good!

Okay, checking out their videos, definitely mixed output, but this one should bring out Quinn with his retro-punk soft boy love of melody. Is that an REM refrain I hear in there?

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One other worth noting, just so no one goes through what I had to do. Next time I just pull my molars and get it over with.

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I don't get it. I admit I rarely if ever see BET events shows, but I do live in Kingsbridge in the Bronx, not far"the birthplace of hip hop" (and thereby also have to take the subway through the west Bronx and Harlem to get to Manhattan,) and I haven't seen kids wearing the low riders for years. You do often see the dreads like in your photo, but they wear them with the whole "Abercrombie and Fitch" style thing in clothes. If you see the low riders once in a while, it is a white or Latino kid that also looks kind of out of it or geeky, perhaps with a confusion about what is cool from watching old videos.

Are you sure entertainers are not doing a retro revival thing? The street fashion cycles move pretty fast these days, the way I see it, it's almost time for a revival.

One thing that has remained from hip hop style is that nearly all men still wear shorts with a crotch way down to the middle of their thighs and hems covering their knees. Now this has always looked real goofy and unflattering to me, it makes guys look like dwarfs, and for the life of me I can't figure out why it has been the standard kind of shorts men wear for several decades. If the basketball teams would raise the crotch and the hem on the uniforms, and go back closer to the original more body conscious style of pro-basketball uniforms, I am sure it would go away pretty quick.

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Frankly, if there were more than a handful of contemporary "front-line" hip-hop, R&B and pop artists who had a fraction of the skill and intellect of, say, Common, or at the very least a view on violence and gender roles somewhere above the caveman level, they could go around with no pants for all I care.

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I'm no authority on this, but my belief, based on my own observations, is that the baggy pants look grew from hand-me-down clothing. You know, where the little brother is handed the clothes of his big brother because the family can't afford to buy new clothes for everyone. This "recycling" of clothing would often result in the hand-me-down pants being too large for the younger brother, giving the, later to be fashionable, familiar low crotch-seam, hanging-off-the-ass effect.

Such younger brothers condemned to wearing, in public, pants that were obviously way too big for them, had a choice. Walk in shame, or walk with with no shame in their game. What used to be an embarrassing indicator of being poor mutated into a cultural fashion symbol, which later spread into American popular youth culture among the not so poor.

Well, that's my take anyway. I'm sure someone somewhere has researched the genesis of baggy blue jeans and other popular culture symbols.

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No, actually, originally it really does have serious sociological iconography but that is not it, quite different from what you suggest. It came from prison gang culture. They aren't allowed belts in prison (the strangulation risk.) Tough guys, cool guys who had paid their dues and been through prison, were the admired ones at the time the style was adopted. It was part of "gansta" hip hop. This is why people like Bill Cosby reacted against the style, they knew what it was glorifying, what it signifed. I suspect Kris knows this too, hence his post. At this point, however, many years later, I think it is just cliche among anyone "hip."

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I don't know about the rest of them, but Jay-Z can't wear skinny jeans cause his knots don't fit.

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dijamo! Thank you, you've really helped this old lady understand the shorts crotch thing I was complaining about. I get it now, men all want to look like they have large balls and deformed lower limbs.

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Happy to be of assistance :) In NYC, I've seen a lot more super skinny jeans on guys at the high school across from me, but I'm down with Jay-Z's anti-skinny jeans advocacy.

That said, I don't want to see a return to the teeny-tiny NBA shorts ever.

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Some places it didn't look so bad, but I guess that was the exception.

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the teeny-tiny NBA shorts

It's true that it went yucky overboard in the other direction back in the day. I also remember that even at the time I thought some guys looked pretty damn goofy in the ultra tight Jordache-type jeans, especially small guys.

But what would be wrong with something along these lines:
http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/image.php?img=1269
in more comfortable modern fabric?

I think a "Bermuda short" looks great on most healthy male bodies. Now I am getting back to some of Kris' rant. Maybe what is known as classic western menswear never goes away because it makes men attractive to women. For instance, I'd love to see male tennis players back to wearing outfits like when they used to have strict rules (think young Robert Redford, completely confident and in control, instead of sweaty, messy angry guy.)

Talking about this also reminds me of one of my favorite scene in the movie "Clueless" where she complains about the way guys dress and then unwittingly falls for the gay guy only because he shows up dressing Robert Redford style attractive. Their is a double standard where girls in Beverly Hills high school are expected to look extremely attractive and sexy in a grown up way or they are considered uncool, and the guys all get to be real sloppy, wear real baggy clothing that hides their bodies, not trim their hair and wear backward baseball caps.

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Well I'm disappointed that wearing a big ol' honkin' pocket watch around your neck didn't stay high fashion. But I think someone's implication, that TV's just hopelessly behind what's happening on the street, might be right. After all, I keep seeing Elton John, Eric Clapton and Paul McCartney on the white channels, and that can't be right.

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And regarding the "hand-me-down" theory, I suppose the backwards pants thing comes from the older brothers giving out wedgies and the famed joke, "if my dog looked as ugly as you I'd shave his ass and make him walk backwards". Cultural anthropology is always a bit guesswork, but I took my best shot.

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Oh, there is Massive Attack (teardrop on fire and unfinished symphony) although they aren't all black which is cool as long as they do go music. Trip-hop as it is called takes some its styles from Hip-hop like low slung pants. I think this particular style is universal at this point. I don't care as long as the music is good.

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Well then we have to talk Prodigy and all, and while good music, it's kinda skipping the issue - are the labels jamming all/mostly-black groups into this tight nut, or are they doing it to themselves? Or a combination? You consider the creativity in the Muscle Shoals/Chicago/MoTown/Stax years, then the Parliament, Prince, and the ones above, and then what? Maybe I just don't catch enough bands these days, but it just seems too homogenous to me.

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Maxwell gets it.

OMGLOL! That's got to be the funniest sentence I've read in a long time. Thanks, I needed a good guffaw.

Maxwell gets it.

What exactly does Maxwell get?

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