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Congressman Compares CEO's To Bank Robbers
The soundbite is the currency of TV news, the primary political
information source for most of America - simple, nice, neat, easy to
pronounce phrases that an announcer can whip off after the guy behind
the camera starts waving that they have ten seconds left until the
commercial break.
If we lived in soundbite sized homes, and worked at soundbite sized factories, and got soundbite sized bills, and had soundbite sized problems, soundbites might remotely begin to have a chance at being relevant.
But until the majority of the public gets tired of wallowing in their stupidity - and if it offends you because I am saying this, yes I mean you - it will remain the currency that counts, because we don't demand any better.
I'll use Massachusetts Representative Michael Capuano as an example of what happens when you substitute soundbites for the real thing. Capuano went on a tear this afternoon during the bailed out bank hearings today on Capitol Hill.
If you've saw Capuano on the news last night, or read about what he had to say in today's paper, you probably got this brief clip:
Or this one:
But it just so happened that I saw Representative Capuano speak live during the hearings, and listened to his remarks in their entirety. No soundbite in the world can begin to do justice to what he had to say to the panel of bankers.
Capuano's opening questions really served as a rhetorical introduction of sorts for the five minute statement he made, a monologue that married the emotions on Main Street with a solid understanding of Wall Street accounting chicanery to perfectly articulate the disgust so many Americans have right now with the entire industry.
I've transcribed the ubiquitous Youtube video of his performance below:
Soundbites have made their own contribution to this mess, by allowing otherwise sane adults to believe that they can remain fully informed about the world around them by watching a thirty minute or an hour long program on TV that is made up of dozens of these little news chicklets.
If we lived in soundbite sized homes, and worked at soundbite sized factories, and got soundbite sized bills, and had soundbite sized problems, soundbites might remotely begin to have a chance at being relevant.
But until the majority of the public gets tired of wallowing in their stupidity - and if it offends you because I am saying this, yes I mean you - it will remain the currency that counts, because we don't demand any better.
I'll use Massachusetts Representative Michael Capuano as an example of what happens when you substitute soundbites for the real thing. Capuano went on a tear this afternoon during the bailed out bank hearings today on Capitol Hill.
If you've saw Capuano on the news last night, or read about what he had to say in today's paper, you probably got this brief clip:
"You come to us today on your bicycles, after buying Girl Scout cookies and helping out Mother Teresa, telling us: 'We're sorry. We won't do it again,' "said Rep. Michael Capuano (D., Mass.). "America doesn't trust you anymore."
Or this one:
"You come to us today on your bicycles after buying Girl Scout cookies and helping out Mother Theresa and telling us, 'We're sorry, we didn't mean it, we won't do it again, trust us.' Well, I have some people in my constituency that actually robbed some of your banks and they say the same thing."
But it just so happened that I saw Representative Capuano speak live during the hearings, and listened to his remarks in their entirety. No soundbite in the world can begin to do justice to what he had to say to the panel of bankers.
Capuano's opening questions really served as a rhetorical introduction of sorts for the five minute statement he made, a monologue that married the emotions on Main Street with a solid understanding of Wall Street accounting chicanery to perfectly articulate the disgust so many Americans have right now with the entire industry.
I've transcribed the ubiquitous Youtube video of his performance below:
REP. CAPUANO
"I've got a couple of more detailed questions. Of all of you, just by a show of hands, how many of your banks, either directly or indirectly, and by indirectly, I mean by loaning money to people you knew would be using this money to invest in credit default swaps, how many of you engaged in that?
None of you engaged in that?"
UNIDENTIFIED BANK CEO
"We engaged in credit default swaps - but, uh, when you asking the question 'are we lending money for them to do that - I'd have to come back to you with specifics - I cannot tell you."
REP. CAPUANO
"Okay, how many of you directly engaged in purchasing or investing in credit default swaps? How many of you directly or indirectly engaged in credit, uh, in CDO's? How many of you have, uh-"
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN FRANK
"Excuse me - very good recorder, but recording raised hands doesn't work - we'll need something oral-"
REP. CAPUANO
"We can fill that in later. How many of you, um, how many of your banks had or currently have Special Investment Vehicles - those off the books, somehow unregulated subsidiaries of the bank, or sister corporations?
UNIDENTIFIED BANK CEO
"We have SPV's"
REP. CAPUANO
"So, basically all or most of you engaged in all or at least some of the activities that actually created this crisis in my opinion.
Because every one of those activities, especially the SIV's, especially the SIV's - to me I think they're illegal. I cannot believe no one has prosecuted you on this, but then again, we've had no prosecutorial action whatsoever from the last administration and the new administration has a little time to figure this out. We'll find out whether anybody really cares.
How can possibly any regulated bank have something on its books that's totally unregulated that for all intents and purposes does the same thing the bank does? That's for your lawyers to answer, and I my hope is that you will be answering those questions in court someday - we'll find out later on.
But basically, you come to us today, on your bicycles, after buying Girl Scout cookies, and helping out Mother Teresa, telling us 'we're sorry, we didn't mean it, we won't do it again. Trust us.'
Well, I have some people in my constituency that actually robbed some of your banks, and they say the same thing. 'They're sorry, they didn't mean it, they won't do it again. Just let 'em out.'
Do you understand that this is a little difficult for my constituents to take, that you 'learned your lesson?' And it's all the same people doing this - the same people who created SIV's, who created CDO's, who created credit default swaps - that never existed a few years ago - you created them, you created the mess we're in, and you're not the only ones - you just happen to be the ones here today. I can't wait to get the credit rating agencies here some day again.
And now you're saying 'sorry, trust us, and by the way, we don't even want the money.'
Interesting, no one has ever come to me and said, 'you must take billions of dollars.'
And as I heard earlier, you have an option. Basically, they said 'you have to capitalize better, because we no longer trust your books.' You can either take this money and do it, or you can do it on your own - if you don't want the money, you can give it back, you just have to come up with the capital. As I understand it, and if you can't do it, I think many of us would be happy to change that law.
You have to understand, I don't really have a question, but I was told I can use the five minutes, cause the questions I have, you've answered them, and you're going to continue to answer them, and that's all well and good.
The problem I have is that honestly, none of us - America doesn't trust you anymore.
I for one, between myself and my various campaigns and my own personal business stuff, I get a lot of money to put in banks. I don't have one single penny in any of your banks.
Not one.
Not one.
Because I don't want my money put into CDO's and credit default swaps and making humongous bonuses - me personally. Until that changes, none of us really believe - I don't believe - anything will change.
Until you change the people who brought you into SIV's - who was the brilliant person who came and said 'let's do credit default swaps?'
Find him.
Fire him.
Tell me you fired him.
Get out of CDO's. Start loaning the money that we gave you. Get it on the street. And don't say 'oh well, we're not using that money for bonuses.' Come on! Money's all of a sudden not fungible in your entities. It's fungible everywhere else, but not in your entity.
Get our money out on the street. And if you don't want to give it back, don't come here and tell me that you can't. Yes you can. As long as you live up to the requirements of the program you're in now.
In the new world that you created and we have to clean up."
Soundbites have made their own contribution to this mess, by allowing otherwise sane adults to believe that they can remain fully informed about the world around them by watching a thirty minute or an hour long program on TV that is made up of dozens of these little news chicklets.
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Super blog! Thanks a million for the words of this wonderful man! And for the contrast between the stupid sound bite (which makes no sense!) and the great rant!
February 12, 2009 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
You hit on something here. We have a duty as citizens to at least attempt to find out what is happening out there. To think that when I grew up a thirty minute summary with commercial breaks was the news.
Of course it was not. Good citizens would consume two or three good newspapers a day.
Today, at least for a little while, once you have internet, newspapers and news sources are available from all over the world.
I listened to a good portion of the hearings yesterday. I enjoyed reading the transcript portions you provide.
February 12, 2009 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Boy!! Talk about an attempt to divert blame away from oneself!!!
Congressional democrats led by Barney Frank in collusion with Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter et al are solely responsible for the problems the banks are currently suffering.
Any time you force someone to make a loan at gunpoint to someone who obviously can't pay it back, it is YOU who are guilty of bank robbery.
These democrats should be placed in jail IMMEDIATELY!! The banks whose money was extorted should be reimbursed from the treasury IMMEDIATELY!!! The welfare trash who were beneficiaries of the free house program put in place by democrats should be slung out IMMEDIATELY!!!! The real estate should be sold at auction and the proceeds returned to the treasury AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!
Only then can proper justice be done for the hapless shareholders of the beleaguered banks.
February 12, 2009 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
More revisionist history masquerading as commentary.
The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) had nothing to do with CDOs and SIVs. Most of those loans went to commercial developers who got into affordable housing in downtrodden neighborhoods. Further, provide a single cite or link to a credible news organization that the CRA "made" lenders provide sub-prime loans. Sub prime loans didn't even exist when that legislation was signed into law.
Today's GOP has to take responsibility for this crap, along with Bill Clinton who repealed Glass Steagall.
February 12, 2009 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
The congressman is clueless (like about half the committee). See "Enron Aside, Special Purpose Vehicles (SPVs) Are Legal, Innovative and Widely Used" at http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1483
They are heavily used by urban real estate investors, most of whom would be Democrats.
February 12, 2009 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Another interesting exchange was the Congressman who asked them about "warehouse lending", which seemed to puzzle the CEOs. Besides the initial semantic confusion, they probably didn't have a handle on how much they might have done, since it was a sideline and they have all shut it down.
Warehouse lending was extending a line of credit to wholesale mortgage brokers to use while the wholesaler acquired a bundle of individual mortgages through their network of independent mortgage brokers. Once assembled in the warehouse, the wholesale mortgage broker would sell the bundle to an investment bank who would securitize it. The servicing rights would be sold to another organization and the cycle would start over.
This chain of mortgage broker, wholesaler, investment bank, investor was a large part of the problem, since there was scant attention paid to underwriting standards by the mortgage broker or wholesaler. This business also resulted in the most "creative" of the abusive mortgage practices in the last few years.
Although some of the eight no doubt did securitization of wholesaled mortgages and may have provided lines of credit, they are no longer doing it -- it is just too risky and their is no market for mortgage backed securities originated that way.
Toward the end of the exchange, it became clear that the idiot Congressman was complaining that the wholesale mortgage brokers in his district could no longer get lines of credit. He appeared to advocate re-starting the wholesale mortgage channel. No doubt they were big contributors to his campaign and had his ear.
February 12, 2009 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well that explains the "customer service with a smile"...
February 12, 2009 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Blythe Masters is credited with creating credit default swaps.
She has contributed to "Friends of Hillary" and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign.
February 12, 2009 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
That democrats are every bit as responsible for this as republicans is pretty much beside the point. We are ALL responsible now when it comes to fixing it or we all go down together. Continued partisan sniping does nothing to advance our common goals as a country.
February 12, 2009 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
CDS is not necessarily a bad idea. Abusing a good idea is generally the bad idea.
Sadly, deficit spending can be a good idea, but I fear Obama is simply amplifying Bush's abuse of it here.
It's not that I'm against borrowing in times of trouble, it's that I'm against imprudent borrowing at all times. There is no exposition so far that I've seen which clearly demonstrates the prudence. The argument is all based on scare talk and complete ignorance of the cost of the decision.
To be a net stimulus, the investment must pay off well enough to cover the debt service costs and more. In this case, that means tax revenues must go up enough from the stimulation to cover interest and some principal, and not starting in 10 years or so!
February 12, 2009 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
February 12, 2009 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your hero said "I don't have one single penny in any of your banks. "
What if Americans started moving their deposits to smaller banks, en masse? We've all head of Socially Responsible Investing. How about extending that notion to how you choose your bankers?
But I will say that it's a bit shallow to just blame the bankers. Public policy and monetary policy along with greed and outright fraud are the other players. That bankers behaved irresponsibly in a larger social sense is certainly their "cross to bear".
February 12, 2009 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very informative post. Thanks for the transcript. Rec'd
February 12, 2009 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Treasure Secretary Geithner tells critics 'tuff shhh*t and up yours' ...the President wants to put a cap on executive pay and benefits if they accept taxpayer bailouts but through life insurance perks, corporate CEOs can get around the President (and the law), especially if their dead! First it was golden parachuts, now Golden Coffins, check out the link:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/CompanyFocus/how-to-fight-greedy-ceos.aspx?page=all
February 12, 2009 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink