Top Signs of Netroots Overreach: The Greenwald factor
In response to observer2's excellent post on netroots overreach, I had the following observation about Glenn Greenwald, who's been making frequent trips to the local ExxonMobil for gasoline to keep the fire roaring.
"Yep, he's becoming a perfect example of the intolerant childishness. I rec'd one of his patented, churlish attacks in response to my saying at this point in time, lefties can be part of the problem or part of the solution. Naturally he equated this with "You're either for us or against us," and then extrapolated out that obviously I was proposing genuflection before the sainted, perfect, transcendent one and never mind the jack-booted thugs coming in the middle of the night.
So, I thanked him for making my point, which was that as an analyst I value him, but when he starts drawing conclusions he gets absolutist and hysterical.
But now he's staked out a position, can't back down, and is vested in raising the ante and becoming a standard-bearer, reveling in his own newfound 'power' and the adoring posts of his own acolytes. Instead of talking people off of ledges, he's keeping them up there and essentially encouraging others to join.
But that's all okay, because he's principled, don't you know, and is happy to play the martyr. What would be a lot more useful is if he, mighty constitutional lawyer that he is, would draft sample legislation that would address the worst excesses of FISA and forward it to Obama. You know, try to be part of the solution."
I don't mind the principled objections. I don't mind cogent analysis. I'm not proposing that anyone just "shut up and get with the program and leave your doors unlocked so the Nazis don't have to waste time knocking." But I really wish he'd try to use his pulpit to turn the conversation more toward, "This is why I think the bill stinks, and here's what I'd like President Obama to do about it. He could still have his data mining tools AND protect our civil liberties, and this is a concrete proposal that would help him live up to his promise to safeguard our 4th Amendment rights."
"Yep, he's becoming a perfect example of the intolerant childishness. I rec'd one of his patented, churlish attacks in response to my saying at this point in time, lefties can be part of the problem or part of the solution. Naturally he equated this with "You're either for us or against us," and then extrapolated out that obviously I was proposing genuflection before the sainted, perfect, transcendent one and never mind the jack-booted thugs coming in the middle of the night.
So, I thanked him for making my point, which was that as an analyst I value him, but when he starts drawing conclusions he gets absolutist and hysterical.
But now he's staked out a position, can't back down, and is vested in raising the ante and becoming a standard-bearer, reveling in his own newfound 'power' and the adoring posts of his own acolytes. Instead of talking people off of ledges, he's keeping them up there and essentially encouraging others to join.
But that's all okay, because he's principled, don't you know, and is happy to play the martyr. What would be a lot more useful is if he, mighty constitutional lawyer that he is, would draft sample legislation that would address the worst excesses of FISA and forward it to Obama. You know, try to be part of the solution."
I don't mind the principled objections. I don't mind cogent analysis. I'm not proposing that anyone just "shut up and get with the program and leave your doors unlocked so the Nazis don't have to waste time knocking." But I really wish he'd try to use his pulpit to turn the conversation more toward, "This is why I think the bill stinks, and here's what I'd like President Obama to do about it. He could still have his data mining tools AND protect our civil liberties, and this is a concrete proposal that would help him live up to his promise to safeguard our 4th Amendment rights."




