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	<title><![CDATA[Joe Perez recommended Obama on Health Reform: The Dog That Didn&apos;t Bark by Robert Reich]]></title>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Joe Perez Commented on Obama on Health Reform: The Dog That Didn&apos;t Bark by Robert Reich]]></title>
		        
			<published>2009-05-11T20:31:27Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>In an effort to be concise, I didn't put that point right. What I suspect is that Obama may phase in a public plan after a certain period of time contingent upon private insurers failing to meet mandatory targets for coverage and cost reductions (in effect, doing a Geithner-type plan for healthcare with mandatory targets replacing bank "stress tests").</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Joe Perez Commented on Obama on Health Reform: The Dog That Didn&apos;t Bark by Robert Reich]]></title>
		        
			<published>2009-05-11T20:28:16Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I wrote <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/jpwolf/2009/05/smelling-a-pattern-is-obama-pl.php?ref=reccafe" rel="nofollow">this post</a> before reading Robert Reich's post. I'm also concerned about the announcement today, and suspect darkly that Obama may be considering a middle ground between abandoning a public plan and having a public plan on day one. Specifically, I wonder if Obama has in mind a plan similar to what he's done for the banks and automobile industry: let industry try first to meet voluntary goals, and after they fail, step in with a government solution that he can then cast as a last resort attempted only after the private sector failed.</p>]]>
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	<title><![CDATA[Joe Perez recommended Smelling a Pattern: Is Obama Planning to Make Healthcare Reform Initially &quot;Voluntary&quot;? by Joe Perez]]></title>
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		    <title>Joe Perez Commented on Is it just me or does anyone else get chills at the thought of HOW the Health Insurance Industry will save $2 Trillion over the next 10 years? by O¿O in the crowd</title>
		        
			<published>2009-05-11T20:23:17Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You don't hear talk of privatizing utilities or the postal service to private companies and limiting them to 0.5% profit. It's just not workable. My first thought at reading your plan is that a single payer healthcare plan would not only be preferable but even politically more palatable.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Joe Perez Commented on Could the GOP Win Converts with a New, Pro-Family, Anti-Divorce Agenda? by Joe Perez</title>
		        
			<published>2009-05-11T17:53:06Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I think some commenters underestimate the degree of support that the Religious Right would have towards an anti-divorce platform and campaign. Those who have divorced are familiar with its downsides and could become effective spokespersons for the anti-divorce campaign; but a new drop of never-divorced politicians who could practice what they preach might even be drawn into politics by the issue. </p>

<p>I do think that a major reason why the GOP has been able to run so far with the gay marriage football is that its campaign against "sin" picked a "sin" that isn't practiced by 95% of Americans, so they could do so at relatively low cost in offending "sinners". By picking an actual, bone fide "sin" (according to the scriptures of Christianity and many other religions) to campaign against, one that actually impacts those 95% of heterosexual Americans plus those in same-sex marriages, they take on an electoral burden but they also benefit by seeming to take on some genuine risk by standing up for their beliefs and challenging those who need to hear the message.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Joe Perez Commented on Could the GOP Win Converts with a New, Pro-Family, Anti-Divorce Agenda? by Joe Perez</title>
		        
			<published>2009-05-08T22:10:20Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I mean to say "honestly I don't support or not support them either way".  </p>]]>
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		    <title>Joe Perez Commented on Could the GOP Win Converts with a New, Pro-Family, Anti-Divorce Agenda? by Joe Perez</title>
		        
			<published>2009-05-08T22:08:03Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>There are good arguments for and against covenant marriage laws, for sure, and honestly I don't support them either way. As a gay man, my concern is first and foremost with reforming marriage laws in a certain other direction.</p>

<p>However, covenant marriage laws are typically voluntary. Soon-to-be married couples volunteer to enter a form of legal civil marriage that essentially makes divorce as difficult as it was to get 30 or 40 years ago. Since covenant marriages are OPTIONAL and aren't forced down anyone's throat, I don't see anything "creepy" or disturbing in the slightest.</p>

<p>Would you care to explain why you find it creepy if some married couples choose to give themselves the option of making divorce difficult to come by?</p>]]>
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		    <title>Joe Perez Commented on Could the GOP Win Converts with a New, Pro-Family, Anti-Divorce Agenda? by Joe Perez</title>
		        
			<published>2009-05-08T22:03:58Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Of course! And you left off Rudy Giuliani. But the fact that the GOP establishment is not in a position to support a definitively conservative pro-marriage agenda without risking being painted as total hypocrites  does not mean that the agenda is "not a good idea". It means that GOP could use a new generation of leaders who could take up the cause of a more conservative pro-family (and pro-same-sex marriage) agenda WITHOUT being seen as hypocrites. </p>]]>
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			<published>2009-05-08T19:50:02Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm... I think I've conceded the point that most GOPs are not at the post-partisan point, and that far too many are motivated by small mindededness and prejudice. </p>

<p>I'm not a Republican, though I would vote for one if she or he had a better vision or could provide stronger leadership than the Democrat in a particular race. I do see the conversion of Gov. Huntsman to the pro-gay rights agenda as an important step in the GOP's evolution on family issues, and welcome more conversions in the future.</p>

<p>The thing is, when it comes to gay rights, as someone concerned more with the advancement of the cause rather than the advancement of a specific party, I'm concerned about the tendency among progressives to "write off" the GOP. It will be far more helpful to try to win converts rather than bask in a sense of moral superiority. And how can progressives win converts if they constantly assail Republicans as bigots as this makes it difficult for Republican politicians to have a change of heart on the issue? </p>

<p>Republicans (and conservative or fence-sitting Democrats) currently tied to the anti-gay agendy of the right-wing extreme on their base need to be able to publicly reverse themselves and save face. We need to make it respectable to change your mind on gay marriage. After all, even Barack Obama speaks out against gay marriage, and I for one am holding out hope that eventually he will announce that he's changed his mind.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>That's all fine and good when the Democrats are being led by a president who offers the sort of post-partisan leadership that I advocate. But sooner or later, the Democrats will disappoint, and political leaders of any party who have the right vision and right message will get my vote.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Joe Perez Commented on How the GOP Could (and Should) Come Back by Joe Perez</title>
		        
			<published>2009-05-08T18:48:28Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>It seems that most of the comments so far have focused on a different issue than that raised by the post: whether or not the Republican party is likely to adopt a post-ideological, post-partisan, pragmatic approach. And few think that the GOP in its current incarnation will do so, and I wholeheartedly agree with that assessment. It's right that the GOP is in a wilderness; but it remains to be seen just how dark and deep the forest is, and when they will find a clearing or exit.</p>

<p>I think the sentiment expressed by<blockquote>What you are saying is this: GOP could be basically Democrats but pretend that they are republicans. Nice dream but fat chance.</blockquote>is really pretty shortsighted. It's true that I'm suggesting that the GOP could revive itself by taking similar policy stands as Democrats on a host of major issues facing the country, so that much is obvious. But I'm not merely suggesting GOPs become "stealth Democrats"; I'm saying that if they become more pragmatic and less rigid, then they can see how their core principles (not ideology, but core values) can be applied in fresh ways that lead to new policy opportunities and priorities.</p>

<p>Let me give one concrete example which is dear to my heart as a staunchyly pro-same-sex marriage Democrat. Republicans could strongly embrace same-sex marriage as a pro-family issue, and simultaneously oppose laws that weaken traditional marriage (e.g., domestic partnership legislation). They could become advocates of same-sex marriage because of its conservative virtues, essentially encouraging responsibility and an end to non-marital sexual activity across the board. Then they could couple their pro-family agenda with fresh ideas about using government to discourage divorce, and make an anti-divorce campaign central to their politics. An anti-divorce politics would probably resonate with their base, perhaps even more so than an anti-gay agenda in the long-term, while perhaps winning converts from culturally conservative Democrats.</p>

<p>There are countless other examples, the main point being that there will continue to be an opposition party of some form to the Democrats and if the GOP is eventually going to be a viable opposition party once again then it will need to basically co-opt the Democratic agenda while reframing traditional GOP priorities in way that can win converts. <br />
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	<title>Joe Perez recommended obama equation update: liberal X conservative = progressive by jason everett miller</title>
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		    <title>Joe Perez Commented on Alert to All Maried Bloggers! by ArmChairPol</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>What about those of us who aren't legally allowed to marry?</p>]]>
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		    <title>Joe Perez Commented on Those Prop 8 Ads by Josh Marshall</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>

<p>As one of your gay TPM fans, I say don't sweat it. Just please be sure to apply your rule regarding advertisements consistently and you'll have no ethical dilemmas. </p>

<p>Now when the anti-abortionists start running pictures of aborted fetuses on TPM and the Obama-morphs-into-Bin-Laden ads start showing up here, maybe you'll sing a different tune. </p>

<p>Until then, keep up the good work, and best wishes for a successful TPM in all respects.</p>

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		    <title>Joe Perez Commented on How McCain Can Still Win by Joe Perez</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This is a joke, theone718.</p>]]>
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