John Bolton: "We should go after (the dead pirates') villages" What a degenerate scumbag!
I have already busted myself for savoring the distress of the Foxniks. I was enjoying the all the schadenfreude you can stand to eat buffet, this time over the reluctance on the right to credit Prez with any chops in the pirate/captain drama. (They practically choke on "commander in chief")
They are desolated by the absence of a Jimmy Carter caliber fiasco.
Anyway, here's *John Bolton, pronouncing after the successful rescue,( replete with three, count'em,. three pirate corpses and one pirate captive making a 100% pirate disaster) that "we should go after their villages". (Hey, what the fuck, with no real pirates left to play "Wanted, Dead or Alive" how can a guy feel like Steve McQueen? Why not just start killing pirate neighbors?!)
Right. Because, after all, some of those kids might grow up to have the temerity to commit a crime against some American, some where. And besides, if they are not pirates, I'll bet they have friends who are.
We thought it barbarous for the Ayatollah Khomenei to pronounce a death sentence ex cathedra and in absentia on Salman Rushdie--Why do we grant a buffoon like Bolton a forum in which to mirror the atrocity?
George W. Bush should be a beacon to his fellow war criminals; keep your head down and keep your fuckin' mouth shut.
- whose dick can only get hard within **four hours of his last bout of bluster threatening death and dismemberment on some innocent bystander of color
** ( It's like viagra to him.)
DISCLAIMER This screed is the personal opinion of the author, and should not be attributed to the Brethren of The Coast, just because he isThe Autarch of the Brethren.
Disgusting! Did anyone call him on that comment?
April 13, 2009 8:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
call him
No more than to call him "sir"--the Foxista just nodded sagely in response.
But up in his face? Not a chance.
April 13, 2009 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's interesting to contrast the disciplined professionalism of the people who actually carried out this operation with the phony bravado and affected, dishonorable brutishness of the right-wing pants-wetters who ruled the Bush roost.
April 13, 2009 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
phony bravado
It is beyond bizarre, is it not, that these shlubs have such a yearning for military...umm, discipline.
Of course, as a fashion statement, those high shiny boots with puttee pants are a sure fire crowd pleaser....
I must mention a brief visit to wikipedia fails to cite any actual military service for Bolton, but perhaps he helped maintain morale by licking the officer's boots clean, on a volunteer basis.
April 13, 2009 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
As the Wikipedia article relates, Bolton fits the classic phony-tough, Bush-winger profile:
Though Bolton supported the Vietnam War, he enlisted in the Maryland Army National Guard rather than fight in Vietnam. He wrote in his Yale 25th reunion book "I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy. I considered the war in Vietnam already lost." In an interview, Bolton discussed his comment in the reunion book, explaining that he decided to avoid service in Vietnam because "by the time I was about to graduate in 1970, it was clear to me that opponents of the Vietnam war had made it certain we could not prevail, and that I had no great interest in going there to have Teddy Kennedy give it back to the people I might die to take it away from."
First, he avoids going to Vietnam, which is understandable enough, and is something many of his peers did.
But then he invents some bullshit rationale after the fact, blaming liberals and Teddy Kennedy for his personal decision to save his skin.
Now he wants to bomb some dirt-poor women and children to show what a man he is. I guess growing the lip hair on his ugly mug wasn't convincing enough.
April 13, 2009 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
blaming liberals and Teddy Kennedy for his personal decision to save his skin.
Hey, you gotta' admit that is one of the most creative bullshitting jobs you are likely to see...alas, it is always the gap between testosterone aspiraton and *estrogen execution that brings these punks low.
*NB, not meant in any way to disparage the wonderful impact of estrogen on women; on men, eh, not so much.
April 13, 2009 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The coward in compensating for his cowardice become a warmonger - as long as he doesn't have to fight it.
April 13, 2009 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
compensating for his cowardice
Granted, we all remember shit-talkers from the schoolyard who were all bluff, but what freaks me out about Bolton and the rest of the 101st Keyboarders is the obvious relish they show in imagining the death of the women and children of the "evil doers".
Yeah, let's go after their villages--let's do like they do in Darfur! Let's do it like they do on the genocide channel...
April 13, 2009 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
rec'cing my own to accelerate Lochard's disappearance from TPMDC...
April 13, 2009 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right on Bro'Jolly R. Yo, ho, ho mate, ( ☠ ), and thanks for pointing out the stupid-ugly where Faux sees only bright skies and sunshine.
April 13, 2009 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yo, ho, ho
Pssst....Pssst...What comes next now, say it with me...and a Bottle of.....(you can leave out the "dead man's chest" part if you like...)
April 13, 2009 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahhh... Yes. I'll take mine with some tonic and a splash of lime.
April 13, 2009 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is a part of me wondered why we did not arrest the pirates that were reportedly coming to rescue their brethren. But then again, we don't arrest drug traffickers when their boat is surrounded by bales of pot either.
What I want to hear is Obama making a speech about how the pirates received their just reward. They have absolutely no moral high ground to defend in that their actions were blatently hostile and they represent no community in their pursuits of plunde. The government. such that it is, condemned their actions.
April 13, 2009 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is pretty ignorant. Their actions were hostile, but it's like saying inner city gangbangers are just flat-out bad people and ignoring the circumstances that created their 'hostile actions'. The Somali government, such as it is, doesn't adequately represent Somalians either.
The Somali pirates have treated their prior captives extremely well and agreeably exchanged them for ransoms. Even in the case of the captain here, representatives for the pirates were saying they would forgo the ransom if their people would be allowed to leave without arrest. Now, that would be an unacceptable resolution -- but you can bet there will be no peaceful outs on the table for future hostages.
April 13, 2009 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
unacceptable resolution
Not to the Phillips family..
April 13, 2009 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
They carried weapons, attacked a ship, and took the captain hostage because he denied them the crew. For these guys, I do not care what their circumstance was. They had enough money to buy the gas that got them within range of this boat. They can fish. They are not starving. If you agree it's okay to take hostages if you treat them respectfully, then I guess you could side with Iran during the Carter Adminstration too.
April 13, 2009 11:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Errr, well, I do that too -- or at least understand their motivations beyond a flat "THEM BAD US GOOD"...
April 14, 2009 2:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I want to hear Obama making a speech about how the pirates received their just reward
Aren't you tacking a little close to Karl Rove here? Is there any doubt that they did, or possibility that Obama would have any reticence in so articulating?
April 13, 2009 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems to me there is an effort to pity the pirates. There are spokepeople declaring revenge. I say they have no merit in seeking revenge. They made a decision that put the lives of people in peril and they lost theirs. It was a fair fight. It was a just cause. They lost. They were killed. It was a chance they willingly accepted.
April 13, 2009 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
no merit in seeking revenge
con respetto, I don't think that revenge-seekers submit their desire to off someone for categorical reasons to rational or ethical analysis.
Obviously the revenge of the criminal upon the rescuers of his victim(s) is without merit. So what? My understanding, (limited though it might be) of the promise to exact revenge for the imposition of justice is the bully's warning that tomorrow he'll fuck you up because today the principal caught him stealing your lunch money.
How does the fact that they have "spokespeople" (the nerve of them) signify anything about how Obama regards them?
April 15, 2009 2:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
If we're going to go after the villages that gave safe haven to pirates, couldn't we start in Connecticut and New York?
April 13, 2009 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
safe haven to pirates
Well, ex-cuuuuuse my piratical ass, but for safe haven it's hard to beat my own little corner of heaven:
San Francisco:
Short skirts, steep hills, steady wind, no panties.
April 13, 2009 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
We are very lucky indeed that Iraqis have not decided to come after our villages after we have plundered their entire country.
April 13, 2009 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
to come after our villages
Ironically, always part of the fantasy of our Iraq "dead enders"--"They will follow us home!!"
Fact is, just like the poor vietnamese man who came home from work to find a twenty foot hole where he left his family that morning, the logistical problems are formidable.
For the Columbian peasants dispossessed by our paramilitary allies, though, not so much.
April 13, 2009 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
To extend his logic, we can go after Texas for giving us 8 years of hell under gw bush and go after hell for giving us cheney?
And of course we went after Iraq because of 9/11 and look how well that turned out!!!!
Why don't these republican not talk for a while and hold their heads in shame.
April 13, 2009 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
not talk for a while and hold their heads in shame
What I was sayin', maybe more polite like..
April 13, 2009 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone have a link to this "villages" comment by Bolton?
April 13, 2009 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
a link
Went to Fox.com, but no transcript up yet, (yesterday, maybe today?) The comment was part of the general news program as the hostage situation had wound down.
April 13, 2009 9:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Somebody say, "Joltin' Bolton"?
April 13, 2009 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Bolton: (former)Diplomat(wannabe)-Bush style
It's amazing that this man once represented this country in the UN (however fleeting). That just shows how disdainful Bush and Cheney were of the world community.
Scumbag indeed. And that's being unkind to scumbags.
April 13, 2009 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
unkind to scumbags
This is true, and I stand corrected. Scumbags, after all, are good for something. Bolton, on the other hand, is worth only his weight in *fertilizer.
*after a few years in the compost heap, so his toxic parts burn off...
April 14, 2009 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
If, and only if, Bolton himself leads the first wave in setting foot on Somali ground, M-16 in hand.
Oh, and just for his benefit, insist that "real Republican he-men" don't wear flak jackets or helmets.
April 13, 2009 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Bolton was born November 20, 1948, exposing him to the first Vietnam Era lottery draft held, December 1969. November 20 was lucky number 185, and the cut-off number for the draft that year was 195, yet Bolton never served. Was he afflicted with that well-known conservative ailment; Weak Knees? It seems to have been the bane of many CaponHawks.
April 14, 2009 1:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
never served
someone upthread picked up a wiki reference to a National Guard Refuge Regiment....the usual response of the connnected youth who had an unlucky birthday.
April 14, 2009 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting: "daddy got him into the guard", but the timeline provided in the Wikipedia reference doesn't add up without further information:
He was exposed in the 1969 lottery draft. Student deferments were eliminated then, but he may have been grandfathered, and exposed in the 1970 lottery, with November 20's lucky number being: 098. In 1969 and 1970, one was unable to just decide to go enlist in the National Guard, anywhere in America. They had waiting lists a mile long. Either he had decided well before 1969 to get onboard the National Guard waiting list, or he got juiced in politically. Additionally, very few conservatives at that time truly believed that Vietnam was a lost cause. This was early on during Nixon's "Vietnamization" program, and even though Nixon/Kissinger privately expressed doubts about the future of South Vietnam, publicly they were not offering a hint of their doubts. Bolton is a very poor liar about this.
April 14, 2009 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
got juiced in
Well, now you raise a poignant point for your interlocutor. Through the eventual exhaustion of a veritable tower of educational deferments, I found me and my IA ass entering an armory in the Bronx where some major in the Air National Guard (who was friend of my uncle's) was going to snatch me up like I was George W. Bush, out of the "jaws of hell" so to speak.
Well, I am ashamed to say that I made the trip uptown, but Jesus put out his hand before I went inside, and I started going to the local Berlitz school to learn Canadian instead (it's oooot not OW...teh.)
Then, a man reached into a big bowl and pulled out a real cherry--a number over 300.
So what I'm sayin' is, I remember the lottery and I remember how the National Guard was the Holy Grail--or maybe not.
April 14, 2009 11:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
funny how the web can shave years off of your age, eh? Never figured you to be old enough to have faced the lottery draft. At least you're honest about it. I've got no problems with honesty. It's the CaponHawks that piss me off. Bolton, even more so, just because of the way his mom dresses him...
I got picked 004 in the '69 lottery draft, and remember thinking about all the grandmotherly types I'd endured as a kid telling me how lucky I was to be a Valentine's baby. Didn't believe the war was proper, and could have gotten juiced into the Guard, but for me didn't seem right. The lottery was about as fair as it was going to get for American sons, besides I had an out (yeah, right); my family's religion took the commandment "thou shalt not kill" as literal and absolute, but at the same time believed that if the country called, it was proper to serve, so I was inducted 1-A Conscientious Objector, and trained to be a chopper evac medic. My tour healed my Christianity. If the only route to salvation is through ingesting the blood of a wrongfully executed innocent man, then I will to stand with the damned; I've had my fill of innocents' blood; from ours, allies, enemies, and the god forsaken peasants, chained to their pitiful piece of dirt in the middle. I'll not freely accept one drop more.
Like I said, I hold no grudge against anyone who is honest about back then. There was no real right, and a lot of wrongs. I returned vehemently anti-
Vietnam war, and generally anti-war; even protested some here and there. that's where I learned that most new-leftys were pretty-much asswipes; as if after just witnessing what I'd seen, I'd somehow magically be a marxist or a maoist. The thing the new-left was good for was their meetings usually came with some good looking young women with well-stashed purses, who forcibly willed to help returning sons chill-out.
But back to Bolton; do you really believe that in 1970, as a new Yalie grad, who was an up and coming conservative Yale law student, he felt that Vietnam was a lost cause, or that Nixon was leading the nation to Peace with Honor?
April 15, 2009 1:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
004
Oh, wow...
believe that in 1970
I believe that in 2001 he needed a plausible excuse; (preferably somewhat less glaringly cowardly than Cheney's.)
old enough to have faced the lottery draft
I don't wish to mislead you here--I am 19. The fact that the aliens who abducted me, (and then stuck me in this 40 year old body) mistakenly implanted memories which include adult experiences dating as far back as the Vietnam War, is merely par for the course with us abductees...I expect my original body back any day now, and if there has been any anal probing, well, I just don't want to know about that, ok?
April 15, 2009 2:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Phil Collins with hair in 2007? Now that's what I call a real misunderstanding...
April 15, 2009 3:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
a real misunderstanding
y'know, I did a double take on that myself...(not to mention the slimmer phil...)
April 15, 2009 3:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hate to break this to you, but if the international community is serious about curtailing this spate of piracy it will require the elimination of some targets on the Somali mainland - as the Somali government has authorized. Of course, the idea that random villages should be targeted could only come from the mind of a Bush "diplomat".
The pirates carrying out these kidnappings are paid about $10,000 apiece. If a pirate crew of 4 nets $2,000,000 for a hijacking - that means the remaining $1,960,000 is going into SOMEBODY ELSE's pocket. That someone is a local warlord - the true source of piracy from the get-go. Until we address the facilitators of this it will continue to escalate. Face it, a guy in Somalia raking in millions (in an economy where millions = billions) sure as hell won't go out on a piracy mission. Having our navies do battle on the high seas with Somali cannon fodder will change nothing.
The cocamame story floating around about "poor fishermen driven to piracy by evil international poachers" is one of the most naive justifications I've heard in quite some time. The criminals know they are threatening to kill people unless they are paid - there should be no remorse if they lose their lives in the course of threatening someone else. They are running a mafia-style organized crime syndicate.
April 14, 2009 1:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
the international community
Terrific.
I look forward to the first levy of armed forces to comprise the United Nations High Seas Command.
I believe each member nation with a navy could spare one ship in twenty; One sailor and/or marine in fifty should do nicely as well.
But cut out the bloodthirsty bullshit fantasies!
This is not a gang war. Unfortunately, that's the way war criminals roll, and we may have gotten into some bad habits...
April 15, 2009 12:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
** ( It's like viagra to him.)
Yeah, why can't they just look at pictures of people, say the author of this (very well done!) post? The black on hair says "come hither...with a shaver!" hehehe
April 14, 2009 4:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
look at pictures of people, say the author
How odd you should mention this--just last week I was approached by the young ladies of a local college sorority, who asked for a poster sized copy of the very picture in question...something about show-and-tell in a gothic novel writing class...I hope I'm the model for the hero, not the hunchback, but like they say, "there's no such thing as bad publicity..."
April 14, 2009 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink