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		        <![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I don't think I've ever seen a more classic example of "projection" -- that is, of someone psychologizing a text by reading his own preoccupations into it.</p>

<p>I find only two references to New York in the Dissent piece -- one to the attacks of 9/11, the other to the Industrial Areas' Foundation's Nehemiah program, which has nothing to do with your preoccupation here.</p>

<p>If you are disturbed by my observing that the neo-cons are suddenly  channeling Hugo Chavez after years of disdaining "community organizing," I can't help you.</p>

<p>Physician, heal thyself.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I forgot to make clear that the Brooks comment about community councils in Afghanistan that sounds like an endorsement of Chavez' policies, is not in the post above, but in the Dissent essay that is the basis for the post. </p>

<p>There, he touts the Afghan National Solidarity Project, which, according to Brooks, helps “villages elect Community Development Councils. Western aid agencies give the councils up to $60,000 to do local projects, but it’s not the projects that matter most. It’s the creation of formal community structures. These projects are up and running in 23,000 villages.”</p>

<p>Please do read the Dissent essay:<br />
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This is really too wonderful not to translate for people who don't read Spanish! So let me try, with special notice to David Brooks, whose praise for community councils in Afghanistan appear above:</p>

<p>"The community councils, as constitutional emblems of democratic participation and efficacy, are instances of the participation and activism of the people, and of the articulation and integration of diverse communal organizations, social groups, and citizens, which permit the organized people to exercise directly the development of public politics and projects that respond to the necessities and aspirations of  communities in the construction of an equal and just society."</p>

<p>Well, this is a little more high-flying than what Brooks claims he's seeing in Afghanistan, but one might well still conclude that Hugo Chavez was his mentor!  Thanks very much for this.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You're wrong. Wesley Clark was a former NATO commander, and his combat experience and sophistication equal McChrystal's. Nowhere did I suggest that Clark had served in Afghanistan, but it is McChrystal who has acknowledged that he took on that assignment in nearly complete ignorance of what he was getting into.</p>

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		        <![CDATA[<p>It is getting extremely boring responding to people who won't read the Dissent essay that is the centerpiece of the TPM post and who won't read the comments and responses posted just above their own. But here,again....</p>

<p><a href="http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2009/11/military_unfityouths_recruiting_110309w/">http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2009/11/military_unfityouths_recruiting_110309w/</a></p>

<p>Wesley Clark and John Shalikashvili held a press conference with Arne Duncan last week to say that 70% of American youth are either too overweight or too under-educated to serve in the military. Whether or not they're right, they're on to something, but they won't come clean about the causes of the problem.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Sorry, wrong link in the other comment. Check this:<br />
<a href="http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2009/11/military_unfityouths_recruiting_110309w/">http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2009/11/military_unfityouths_recruiting_110309w/</a></p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Check this:<br />
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Destor23 --</p>

<p>If you would read the Dissent essay that occasioned this post, you would see a reference to the press conference which McChrystal's predecessor as NATO commander, Wesley Clark, and others gave last week to warn that the unfitness of 70 percent of American youth for military service has become a national-security issue. They blamed, poor education, junk food, and a lot of things that have to be put at the doorstep of extreme free-marketeers. </p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Fred, I'm not obligated to defend Glenn Greenwald, who is no Siamese twin to me, but to the extent that you are referring to my comments about Brooks, may I ask that you and others who are inclined to agree with you about them take the time read these two previous TPM posts on him.</p>

<p>The first takes George Packer and The New Yorker to task for having tried to rehabilitate Brooks for polite society without truly assessing whether and how he has acknowledged his own past dissimulations and blunders.</p>

<p><a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/18/the_conservatives_conundrum_an/index.php">http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/18/the_conservatives_conundrum_an/index.php</a></p>

<p>The second assesses Brooks' incredibly irresponsible (and un-Burkean) account of the mortgage meltdown of 2008. Here I expose Brooks' intellectual usury, an equivalent of predatory lending in the realm of ideas:</p>

<p><a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/22/intellectual_usury_feels_good/">http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/22/intellectual_usury_feels_good/</a></p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>....and via Jim Sleeper:<br />
<a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/30/here_he_goes_again/index.php">http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/30/here_he_goes_again/index.php</a></p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dave. And yes, alas, we've been here all too often.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I certainly do wish that TPM readers had time or inclination to read the two brief, linked Daily News columns that are the basis of my post. But since that cannot and will not happen, I've adjusted the wording of the post to say loud and clear -- that a big danger confronting us is "politically correct" apologetics and "understanding" for murderers such as Hasan, Ferguson, and Goldstein. My argument is that Brook's condemnation of the politically correct apologetics for Hasan is absolutely right, just as a stopped clock is absolutely right, twice a day. </p>

<p>But it is important to understand that one can be absolutely right even while writing in bad faith, and that is the record of Joe Lieberman and David Brooks. </p>

<p>I thought that I had made this clear, but now I'm putting some of this language in the post.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>A "defense"? Who or what do you think I'm defending?</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Yes, Donald J, Brooks has written this kind of column more than once. Here's a column of mine that cites one of his at length in 2006.</p>

<p><a href="http://hnn.us/articles/26572.html">http://hnn.us/articles/26572.html</a></p>

<p>Brooks fretted that “far from motivating most Americans to fight harder, cruelty on [the terrorists’] scale is unnerving…. The lesson [they teach] is that if you are willing to defy all norms and codes of morality you can undermine your enemy’s willingness to fight.” Thus do terrorists “create an environment in which it is difficult to survive if you are decent.” </p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>An off-screen commenter congratulated me today for being a such a terrific hater of David Brooks. That's not quite the distinction I aspire to in the above post, which was written at the cocktail hour, and I would be grateful if more readers would supplement it with two substantiations of the indictment against Brooks -- two other, more down-to-cases posts that are linked above and that I link again here:</p>

<p>The first takes George Packer and The New Yorker to task for having tried to rehabilitate Brooks for polite society without truly assessing whether and how he has reckoned with his own past work.</p>

<p><a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/18/the_conservatives_conundrum_an/index.php">http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/18/the_conservatives_conundrum_an/index.php</a></p>

<p>The second -- written, if I may say, so, with a more commendably controlled anger than the cocktail-hour post here above, assesses Brooks' incredibly irresponsible (and un-Burkean) account of the great mortgage meltdown of 2008. Here I expose Brooks' intellectual usury, an equivalent of predatory lending in the realm of ideas:</p>

<p><a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/22/intellectual_usury_feels_good/">http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/22/intellectual_usury_feels_good/</a></p>]]>
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