A tale of two stories
Crossposted from jesselava.com.
The Obama administration revealed yesterday that detainees could be left in jail even if a court of law acquits them of wrongdoing. In other words, the trials are pretty much for show; if the Obama folks don't get the outcome they want, they ignore it; if they do, they get to take credit for giving detainees due process.
This is a big deal. It should be receiving wall-to-wall news coverage. We shouldn't hold our breath waiting for that, but might we at least hope the coverage that exists will report the issue honestly?
Our hope would be fulfilled if we read the Wall Street Journal, which reports straightforwardly about the revelation:
All of this is assuming, of course, that someone reading the Journal or the Times would find these pieces, which is no small assumption. Neither is receiving prominent real estate at their respective papers' websites. Indeed, the Times story is almost impossible to find; one has to go to the "U.S." section and scroll down to the bottom. It's nowhere to be found on the home page.
Is yet another potentially earth-shattering story about the Obama administration's disregard for transparency and civil liberties about to be ignored?
The Obama administration revealed yesterday that detainees could be left in jail even if a court of law acquits them of wrongdoing. In other words, the trials are pretty much for show; if the Obama folks don't get the outcome they want, they ignore it; if they do, they get to take credit for giving detainees due process.
This is a big deal. It should be receiving wall-to-wall news coverage. We shouldn't hold our breath waiting for that, but might we at least hope the coverage that exists will report the issue honestly?
Our hope would be fulfilled if we read the Wall Street Journal, which reports straightforwardly about the revelation:
The Obama administration said Tuesday it could continue to imprison non-U.S. citizens indefinitely even if they have been acquitted of terrorism charges by a U.S. military commission.Our hopes would be dashed, however, if we relied on the New York Times, which somehow covered the same event and came away with an entirely different take:
Jeh Johnson, the Defense Department's chief lawyer, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that releasing a detainee who has been tried and found not guilty was a policy decision that officials would make based on their estimate of whether the prisoner posed a future threat.
Like the Bush administration, the Obama administration argues that the legal basis for indefinite detention of aliens it considers dangerous is separate from war-crimes prosecutions. Officials say that the laws of war allow indefinite detention to prevent aliens from committing warlike acts in future, while prosecution by military commission aims to punish them for war crimes committed in the past.
Obama administration lawyers said Tuesday at a Senate hearing that detainees prosecuted by military commissions should have some of the same constitutional rights as American citizens tried in civilian criminal courts.Indeed, the Times story never even mentions the hot news item: that Obama is reserving for himself the right to decide whether to accept courts' judgments when it comes to detainees.
Republicans on the Armed Services Committee argued that foreigners now detained on terrorism charges at the American detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, did not deserve those constitutional protections.
"So you are saying that these people who are in Guantánamo, who were part of 9/11 or committed acts of war against the United States are entitled to constitutional rights of the Constitution of the United States?" Senator John McCain of Arizona, the senior Republican on the panel, asked administration officials at one point.
David Kris, the chief of the national security division at the Justice Department, said detainees would not be granted all the rights of American citizens, but added: "I think, within the framework I just described, the answer is yes. The due process clause guarantees and imposes some requirements. That's the way I think I would put it.
Later, Jeh C. Johnson, the Pentagon's top lawyer, was more explicit: "I would say it's our view that the detainees would not, whether in the United States or anyplace else, do not enjoy the full panoply of constitutional rights that an American citizen in this country would enjoy."
All of this is assuming, of course, that someone reading the Journal or the Times would find these pieces, which is no small assumption. Neither is receiving prominent real estate at their respective papers' websites. Indeed, the Times story is almost impossible to find; one has to go to the "U.S." section and scroll down to the bottom. It's nowhere to be found on the home page.
Is yet another potentially earth-shattering story about the Obama administration's disregard for transparency and civil liberties about to be ignored?
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"We shouldn't hold our breath waiting for that"
- That's correct.
As far as I recall, liberals were practically pushing the media to get into tank for Obama. Now that the media's there, what else do people expect? And given that the WaPo pimping of administration officials isn't strictly confined to WaPo but seems to be a rather widespread affair, getting out of the tank would mean revenue loss in addition to an egg on the face.
July 8, 2009 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boo on the NYT for missing this. Nadler's comment was right on the money, too.
But the thing is, the law of war does, in fact, allow combatants captured by the military in an armed conflict to be held indefinitely. That would be the case if they were prisoners of war, i.e people captured in an armed conflict bearing arms, wearing some kind of uniform or common article of clothing showing they're part of a military unit that operates under the authority of something purporting to be a government. POW's have the most rights under the Geneva Conventions. People who don't meet those criteria have fewer rights still. And even POW's may be held as long as the conflict continues if the government that captured them wants (and, of course, doesn't lose the war).
POW's have frequently been tried for crimes, ranging from crimes against fellow POW's to war crimes. If they are convicted, they lose POW status and become convicts. If they win, they're still POW's.
Given that, whether to let them go if we try them for crimes and they're acquitted is in fact a policy call by the military and, therefore, ultimately, by the President. It's a simple statement of the law they're operating under as it exists, not some crazy thing they're aping from the Bushies.
Whether this is how it should be is a legitimate argument. Certainly, if Congress doesn't like how the law we've got--the Geneva Conventions--apply here, they can pass laws giving the detainees more rights than they're entitled to now. But this isn't just something the administration has made up out of thin air because they're power mad loons who've been possessed by whatever demons ate Cheney's soul.
July 8, 2009 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still, if a POW wins, it would be quite strange for the US to continue to hold the prisoner. These POWs aren't at some black site. We know who they are (OK, I don't, but there's a list somewhere, right?) and so does the press, the blogs, and--maybe more important--other countries know this too.
Can you imagine the brouhaha if a prisoner is now acquitted and we still hold them? After what we've already done? This whole affair's already a national embarrassment.
July 9, 2009 1:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
But why have the show trials? It seems like Obama wants to have it both ways. If the detainees are convicted, he'll say he gave them due process and grandstand as a civil liberties proponent. If they are acquitted, Obama will just ignore the verdict. At least Bush had no pretense of supporting civil liberties.
July 9, 2009 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
One possibility is that they're contemplating the possibility that someday they may declare the war is over (or may be compelled to do so). At that point, people detained solely because of their status as combatants would have to be released.
July 9, 2009 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Having looked again, you are absolutely right that the NYT version is one sorry-ass rotton excuse for a piece of journalism compared to the WSJ's coverage.
July 8, 2009 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well I did recommend this. I guess I was coming back later.
Good, good finds. There STILL IS THE HIDDEN.
Of course you cannot imprison someone who has been convicted. Who came up with this idea.
I mean FDR and Lincoln.
But this is not a gooooooood thing.
The side of truth, justice & the AMerican Way must prevail.
Especially when the good guys ARE IN.
July 9, 2009 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink