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		    <title>JEP07 Commented on Why is Healthcare Reform Too Expensive, While the Sky is the Limit For War? by Wattree</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Will they give us healthcare in jail?</p>

<p>Sounds like the final dumping grounds for everyone who really needs insurance.</p>]]>
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		    <title>JEP07 Commented on Why is Healthcare Reform Too Expensive, While the Sky is the Limit For War? by Wattree</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Sherman had him by 100 years...</p>

<p><br />
“In our Country . . . one class of men makes war and leaves another to fight it out.”</p>

<p>And this, too...“It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.”</p>

<p>Since the invention of the A-Bomb, war is obsolete.</p>

<p>It's perpetuation is for one purpose; sustaining a stale status quo with roots of blood and treasure buried deep in our pernicious imperial past.</p>

<p>But they don't teach that in school. </p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[JEP07 Commented on &apos;Disappointed&apos; Siegelman: Obama Justice Dept. Virtually The Same As Bush DOJ by Justin Elliott]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Write your book, Don. </p>

<p>Get the whole story out there, and use actual newpaper reports as the intro to each chapter, with the WHOLE story unfolding after those intro's.</p>

<p>Let the public know, so far what we get from the blogs is our only info,  while it is so much more than we can get from the mainstream media, a book would make it public knowledge. </p>

<p>Tell your story, it is very compelling. </p>

<p>Then see if they still say no.</p>]]>
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		    <title>JEP07 Commented on Friends In High Places: The Salahis And The Famous People They Take Pictures With by Evan McMorris-Santoro</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>With lots of bait...</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>If he wasn't smiling, it would make a great mugshot.</p>

<p>These people are trophy hunters.  </p>]]>
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		    <title>JEP07 Commented on Cleaning Up Washington. A Good First Step. by thepeoplechoose</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>DD, this issue may be something of a problem for the Supremes if it ever got there.</p>

<p>Any court case related to lobbyists filing suit to have seats on those boards that reached the Supreme Court would already have been decided against them quite publicly through lower courts.</p>

<p>That alone would require such an uncovering of stuff covered-up, just in the examination and cross examination, I have my doubts there's a lobbying firm with the clean slate to get so public with their history, which would be exposed down to the dirty details by the opposition in their defense of the anti-lobbying laws.</p>

<p>Not that the Supremes wouldn't find for the Corporate side, which they have been designed to do consistently 5-4,</p>

<p>But before it ever got there, the whole public would be privy to so much festering truth, it might actually be a good form of expose'.</p>

<p>Just food for thought. </p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"the same players are in control in the background"</p>

<p>They weren't "in the background" during the Bush years..  and while they certainly have a lot of power, (The Lump is still broadcasting on Armed Forces Radio) they aren't in "control".</p>

<p>Under Bush, they WERE the government.  Remember, Bush called them "his base."</p>

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		    <title>JEP07 Commented on The REAL Patriots were the Republicans who voted for Obama. by JEP07</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Tank, is this going to be like your "Canadian Housing Market" post?  </p>

<p>Obviously, remembering some of your past prognostications, being wrong has never deterred you.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"$100 million in investor funds fighting reform."</p>

<p>Most of which went to advertising, in the MSM.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I don't think any of those are final by ny means.  There's over three years left in his administration, when those years are over, then I will answer you accusations.</p>

<p>Did he say "I'll do ALL this my first year in office?"</p>

<p>And since when does a President have the power to change tax cuts? The other two, we assume he has that power, but retaining tax cuts, I wasn't aware a President can levy or un--levy taxes.</p>

<p>What you really need to say is "he hasn't done any of this YET."</p>

<p>Your comment that it isn't done yet suggests you assume it will never be done.</p>

<p>YOU try raising taxes on the rich and see what happens.  Consider what they had to do to get Bush in there to lower them in the first place. We are all learning, these folks would rather spend all their money FIGHTING TAXES rather than paying them.</p>

<p>Best recent example; Thus far, the insurance industry has spent almost $100 million in investor funds fighting reform.</p>

<p>That constitutes about 5,000 difficult cesareans,  2,000 kidney transplants, or 1,000 heart transplants, or building 50 rural health clinics, or even just monthly healthcare payments for half a million people.  </p>

<p>Certainly no drop in the bucket.</p>

<p>BTW, I am not saying Republicans who voted for Obama are the ONLY Patriots among us, just that the word patriot is being cheapened by the wingnuts, and applies much more to those I mention, than those gun-totin' nuts and their Ciover Girl from  Alaska who claim it now exclusively.</p>

<p>Would you agree with that last paragraph?</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>'course not.  I read your profile, Tank, and we are really quite similar in our political creed, I may even be more of peace-nik than you are, from a purist's point of view. </p>

<p>But I had a hard time putting Obama into the category of "most conservative Dem."</p>

<p>Now that you qualify it with "ever elected President" I would have to reach back to earlier eras to find anything to argue with, so far back it really wouldn't be anything but a forensic debate. </p>

<p>What you say may be true but I don't think the jury is even out yet on it.</p>

<p>As an elected President, he may well be judged more moderate than many or even MOST Dem Presidents before him.  :Conservative" is a bit hard a tack, moderate seems more appropriate.</p>

<p>As a Democrat, in general, he is by no measure "the most conservative." </p>

<p>Even during the campaign, I always marveled how the uber-left tended to read his words only from their extreme position, turning his moderate goals into left wing promises.</p>

<p>And now they think he's broken promises because he has lived up to the letter of his pledges, not their mis-perceived meaning. </p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I guess my point is, also, did anyone seem surprised they were there, or did most of the people who knew them just assume they were legitimate invitees?</p>

<p>Because they were familiar to the DC crowd, no one walked up to a security guard and said, "hey, that couple sitting with Senator So and So wasn't invited."</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>One might assume that the old addage "DC is a small town" might well prove true in this case.</p>

<p>It may well be that these two were so familiar to the many DC insiders that they managed to mix confortably while no one would assume they weren't invited guests.</p>

<p>Who did they wave to and who acknowledged them in fromt of the checkpoints?  If a notable Senator or Congressman gave them a big "Hello" in public it would make those security guards seem like real paranoid pricks to start asking for papers.</p>

<p>But isn't that what WH security is supposed to do?  Suspect EVERYONE until proven innocent?  </p>

<p>Regardless of the flow of events that so easily let them in, this couple gives a new meaning to the word "chutzpah."</p>

<p>They may end up regretting it.  But then again, maybe not...    </p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>There are two kinds of people in the world.  </p>

<p>Those who fall for those old "there are two kinds of people" memes and those who don't.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"the the merrier,"</p>

<p>lost "more" somewhere in the submit process...</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I agree, the the merrier, and the more actual representation, because people just do NOT fit into two simple categories.</p>

<p>But, to paraphrase that old war criminal Rummy, "you go into elections with the parties you have, not the ones you want."</p>

<p>ASnd can anyone dispute that "Big tent" is codeword for "our coalition is bigger than than your coalition."</p>

<p>SO party diversity is still in play, just not in words, in substance but not image.  </p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[JEP07 Commented on Top 10 Things You Didn&apos;t Know Before Reading Plouffe&apos;s &apos;Audacity To Win&apos; by Christina Bellantoni]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"In the end, it was Plouffe's wife who convinced him to stay, telling him "[W]e have an obligation to do everything we can to elect him in November."</p>

<p>Sounds like a great Lifetime Channel story.  GIves me goosebumps.</p>

<p>Thank YOU Mrs. Plouffe!</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"while the cult party members tend to be a small minority at both ends."</p>

<p>Well, Tank, I think you are either a sincere uber-lib or a concern troll, and I tend to lean towards the former, myself also being still idealistic.</p>

<p>Calling Obama "the most conservaive Democrat ever elected" is an emotional exaggeration, at best, or a subtle subterfuge at worst.</p>

<p>If you are sincere, I must ask, have you even considered what has already been accomplished? Hardly a conservative's wish list.</p>

<p>If you are just trying to foment concern in the uber-lib ranks, give it up.  They are perfectly capable of that on their own.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>btw, still, you really ARE the kind of patriot we need more of, in every party.  I sincerely mean "thank you" for putting your country above your party.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I think most of us are somewhere "between", while the cult party members tend to be a smallminority at both ends.</p>

<p>I was raised in a very well-connected Iowa Republican family. I inherited the invitation to the Nixon Agnew inauguration in 73 from my grandad when he passed away, along with a wristwatch in the shape of a Chevy radiator (the winding stem is the radiator cap) that has inscribed on the back "for making quota, 1927 used car campaign".</p>

<p>It does NOT hang on my wall with the one from the Obama/Biden inauguration and the tickets from the Invesco speech in Denver, and the photo of MLK in dep thought...  </p>

<p>That Nixon/Agnew invite stays in an old briefcase in the closet.  </p>

<p>So I guess I do have some party prejudice, but it comes from being immersed in the Republican side for so many years.</p>

<p>People ask me why I'm a Democrat, I tell them it is because I was raised a Republican.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, I think Palin was the point in the campaign where so many moderates realized their very nation was at stake, so they voted for Obama, and that proved that their party mattered less than their patriotism.</p>

<p>THAT is true patriotism!  </p>

<p>They knew, like most of us here know, that Palin's inflammatory rhetoric and false, provocative patriotism could only spell trouble for the future of our country.</p>]]>
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	<title>JEP07 recommended The REAL Patriots were the Republicans who voted for Obama. by JEP07</title>
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	<title>JEP07 recommended Change by Josh Marshall</title>
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