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Do conservatives hate Obama more than they love America?
The happy happy joy joy response of the wingnut media over Chicago's failed bid for the 2016 Olympics is pretty good proof the right wing has not a patriotic bone in it's aging body.
Clearly, their highly touted and constantly chorused love of America is far outweighed by their hatred for everything Obama. Their thinly veiled personal prejudices and burgeoning political disappointments grow more transparent every day, as the news of their glee at Chicago's lost Olympics bid so clearly proves.
Bigoted, sore losers would be the best new label for the wingnut media manipulators, especially the radioheads. But, by the very standard they tried to set during Bush's disastrous tenure, they should drop any pretense of patriotism, and admit they are loyal to a fading, failed ideology, not to any real American ideals.
Clearly, their highly touted and constantly chorused love of America is far outweighed by their hatred for everything Obama. Their thinly veiled personal prejudices and burgeoning political disappointments grow more transparent every day, as the news of their glee at Chicago's lost Olympics bid so clearly proves.
Bigoted, sore losers would be the best new label for the wingnut media manipulators, especially the radioheads. But, by the very standard they tried to set during Bush's disastrous tenure, they should drop any pretense of patriotism, and admit they are loyal to a fading, failed ideology, not to any real American ideals.
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To answer your question in the headline, yes.
October 3, 2009 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Disgusting and pathetic isn't it?
October 3, 2009 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both."
Eric Hoffer (1902-1983)
October 3, 2009 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
"A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both."
Teabaggers and birthers, Unite!
October 3, 2009 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Short answer: Yes. (In fact, they don't "love America" much at all, but they sure do hate Obama.)
October 3, 2009 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
They hate Obama even more than they hate America. And I did not think that was possible.
October 3, 2009 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. Absolutely, unequivocally, yes.
October 3, 2009 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do not agree with Republican or Democrat. They have both sold America out. However, people who make person slurs have no idea what they are talking about or they would talk facts. I did not agree with Carter or Clinton and I was never called racist. I have never felt I have to apologize for my country every where I go. Obama does. Who was there first after China's earthquake? America. We are first to help everyone but yet Obama thinks we are not worth praising. We have the industry, military, health care(for now any way), you get the idea. So its not the citizens that hate America more than Obama. Try less name calling and more facts guys.
October 4, 2009 12:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Please cite Obama's "apologies" for the US. Acknowledging mistakes and imperfections isn't an apology, BTW. However, I felt a strong need to apologize for having Bush as a President. He did more harm to the world than any other person I can think of. If you haven't heard President Obama praise the US, you obviously don't listen when he speaks. Are you listening to Glenn Beck, perhaps? Or Rush?
You might try some facts yourself.
When a group of Republicans cheer at Chicago losing their Olympics bid, it reflects a hatred of Obama. I agree with the decision to have the Games in Rio, but these people didn't care about Rio; they just cared that Obama's home town lost.
October 4, 2009 8:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well said Cville.
October 4, 2009 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
This poster has some valid points. You may feel that Obama is justified in apologizing for past events, but others of us do not. That is merely a difference in opinion, but you feel the need to again claim that we are simply drones of Glenn Beck. When you make personal attacks like this it just makes it harder for people that disagree with you to try harder to see your points of view.
I frankly don't see a difference between apologizing and "acknowledging mistakes". Plus some of us don't think that these "mistakes" were anything of the sort. I see statements such as "America has shown arrogance and been dismissive" as being completely unnecessary and unproductive.
I don't believe it reflects "hatred" of Obama that people are happy we lost the Olympic bid. No more than it reflects "hatred" when people are happy that the public option might go away.
But if I don't like how the President handled the Olympic situation, then I will be happy that we didn't win. I personally don't think there's any long-term benefit to hosting an Olympic games.
The Olympics decision is a reminder that interests trump charm or likability in world affairs.
At least there's one silver lining in the Olympic decision, it will be something that Obama can't blame Bush for. Though no doubt here at TPM and MSNBC people will try.
October 4, 2009 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, many of us here hate you. How 'bout them apples, Sparky?
We don't believe you, we have no reason to. We don't think you are a serious person, likewise. And you are not wanted or welcome here. You persist because (a) you are a complete asshole, and (b) you more than likely have no place else to go.
Now crawl back downstairs to you mother's basement. You'll have to get your Cheetos some other time.
October 4, 2009 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the kind words. Fortunately, you don't speak for all of TPM. So maybe some people would prefer I not post on here. But thankfully this is a free blog open to people of all backgrounds and ideas.
Have a nice day.
October 4, 2009 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Disagree strongly, Old Grouch. No need to make it personal.
October 4, 2009 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You may feel that Obama is justified in apologizing for past events,"
Can you read? I asked for a citation where Obama apologized for the US. I disagreed that he had done so. I understand that you are thrilled that Chicago lost the Olympics bid. You and your ilk don't care about anything except yourselves, and your selfishness screams out from every post you make.
You say you don't like how "Obama handled the Olympics bid." What a joke! If he had not gone, you would be criticizing him for not trying hard enough -- don't deny it; every other thing you write betrays your simple-minded and childish methods.
Tell me, MCB: What could President Obama (just love using that phrase since I know it gripes your ass) have done that would have made you happy about the Olympics bid ?
Step up to the plate here, Bill. What should PRESIDENT OBAMA have done that would have pleased you?
October 4, 2009 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cville - I gave you a quote of Obama's - "America has shown arrogance and been dismissive" - one example where I believe he is "apologizing" for our past behavior. Call it whatever you want. But to me it's not very becoming.
And no, I wouldn't have been criticizing him for not trying hard enough. If he had stayed out of the limelight, I wouldn't be critical at all, win or lose. That would have pleased me.
Spending political capital on the Olympics to me is not the most productive thing for him to be doing right now. Can he handle both? Sure. He can multi-task. But should he be multi-tasking? I don't think so. Let somebody else deal with the Olympics. Let somebody else promise all the side deals to the IOC that are necessary in winning the vote. His political capital, while voluminous, is not unlimited and is better spent elsewhere. Even a few weeks ago the President himself said he wouldn't make the trip because he's too tied up with healthcare. What changed his mind?
It has been pointed out that President Obama is only doing what other nation's leaders have done historically for the Olympics. But back then, those other leaders weren't facing the same types of problems that this country is facing today.
And no, it does not "gripe my ass" - thankfully we have a thing called term limits.
October 4, 2009 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I asked for an actual citation. You haven't given one so far.
October 4, 2009 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's the matter? You don't know how to use Google?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5101244/President-Barack-Obama-America-has-been-arrogant-and-dismissive-towards-Europe.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/04/full-text-of-barack-obama-in-strasbourg-town-hall.html
October 4, 2009 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, Cville, don't bother responding, even though I provided a link.
I've decided to stop trying to have a discussion with you since you just shout things like "Ass-hole" at people you disagree with and won't take off the partisan glasses to have an honest discussion. The world is not as black and white as your love-democrats/hate-republicans line of thinking goes.
Have a nice life.
October 5, 2009 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I did go to your links. I guess we disagree about the tone and substance of our President's statements. I don't see them as apologies. I see them as acknowledgements of the ways we have disagreed during the Bush fiasco. Rummy dissing France and Germany by calling them "old Europe." The Senate of the US renaming "french fries" as "freedom fries!"
The things that Barack Obama said needed to be said. We are not the best nation on Earth, Bill. We have no business telling other countries that we are better than they are. That is not apologizing, rather it is behaving like a normal person.
I did not read one word of apology in either of your links. Perhaps you could cut & paste an example. But an apology states that someone is SORRY for something.
Do you want to apologize for your continuously mistaken criticisms of our President? I didn't think so.
October 5, 2009 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have a nice day. People that just scream "Ass-hole" won't get any more attention from me.
XOXOXO,
MCB
October 5, 2009 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Given the energy the right wing has contributed to doing everything possible to knock down Obama and that they have demonstrated almost no energy at all in contributing to finding solutions for things that need looking after then it would be logical to conclude the former is of more interest to then than the latter.
Actively seeking failure, in oneself or another, is absurd. Seeking success is the norm of human behavior.
October 4, 2009 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink