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Conservatives Making Yet Another Welfare Queen Argument


Following an Obama rally in Sunrise, FL, a reporter asked a woman named Peggy Joseph about her experience.  Twenty six seconds of the interview are shown here, and I've been unable to locate any more.  The final ten seconds or so are what the right is making hay over.  [I was going to link to a blog or two with the video instead of YouTube, but I won't play party to giving the scum involved a few cents worth of advertising revenue for the hits they might get as a result.  If you really want to know what their specific 'arguments' are, just google Peggy Joseph and you'll find plenty in a hurry...]

 

Reporter: Peggy Joseph took her daughter out of school early Wednesday for this; her emotions ran high following Obama's speech.

 

Peggy Joseph: It was the most ... memorable time of my life.  I, I was ... It was a touching moment.

 

Reporter: Why?

 

Peggy Joseph: Because, I never thought this day would ever happen.  I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car; I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage.  You know, if I, if I help him, he's gonna help me.

Across the Internet, conservative bloggers are labeling her Obama's 'Joe the Plumber.'  The argument generally goes as you would expect: She is an ignorant Black woman with no job who genuinely believes that Obama is going to hike taxes and write checks to poor people, or with the added twist that she is currently employed and intends to quit her job to go on Obama's upcoming super-welfare (she does have a mortgage after all, so she must have had a job at some point, right?)  It's the standard welfare queen argument that has become a cornerstone of the 2008 Republican campaign in the guise of 'socialism.'  The argument is absurd and loathsome to put it simply.  It is no more valid than the idea that the Republican party is peopled entirely by religious extremists and decrepit old White guys who roll around on piles of money earned through the sweat of their underlings. 

Are there completely moronic people who honestly believe that Obama is going to just write everyone a check?  Of course.  Are there loonies on the other side who want to actually kill Obama because he's a Muslim, terrorist, socialist, etc?  Of course.  Consider instead the possibility that Peggy Joseph is not an idiot, that she is not a welfare queen transported to the year 2008, and might just be a responsible citizen who was quoted out of context, or at least without any followup whatsoever.  I've got to say, I agree with everything she said in the last few seconds.  Here is my argument for her statement making sense.

I am glad that Barack Obama is going to win because I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car or paying my bills.  My lack of worry is NOT because I think he's going to pay me directly.  It is because I won't have to worry about losing my job (or perhaps in Peggy's case she doesn't currently have one and thinks it would be easier for her to find employment.)  If John McCain wins, I do not think that he will handle the current economic situation well.  He will continue the destructive economic policies that have driven the worlds' economies to their knees.  He will dramatically increase the likelihood that Peggy and I will lose our jobs, and once lost, they will be much harder to replace and will pay less.  If I help Barack Obama with my vote, he will help me with improved economic security.

In case you're curious about my employment status, I'm a gainfully employed professional and, with a short break to take care of my daughter when she was an infant, have been since I was old enough to have a job.


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Reasonable people ignore the ignorant braying of these asses. My advice: stay away from the rightwing blogs. They kill your brain cells.

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It's often painful to read, but it helps to know what your enemy is going to say before they say it. I'm working on every moderate I know here in Indiana, and so are the Republicans I know. I would love to see this state go blue for once.

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I am going to be honest, this shit doesnt matter to me. They know they only have 2 days, we will crush them and no racial tinged arguments will stop them.

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I think the easiest way to quash this kind of attack is for someone to ask whether Caribou Barbie plopped out all those children to take advantage of Alaska's oil payments. Obviously she's been bilking the Alaskans for travel expenses. Freakin' welfare queen working the system.

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All irrelevant and beside the point.

The current Welfare Queen is Sarah Palin.

Deal with that fact, and ignore all other nominees as bullshitter's distractions.

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People who want to argue with you about "welfare queens" are not open to being convinced to vote for Obama. My approach is to talk issues. I have many in my family who would love to get me to debate about nonissues with them, but as JN says above, it's a tactic to avoid talking about what is actually at issue in this election.

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To make my point again, and to nobody in particular, I'm not expecting to convince anyone actually making this argument that Obama is the right choice. What I said is that both sides are arguing for the ears of moderates. If you don't believe that folks in the middle are at all affected by ignorance like this, then you live in a fantasy world. Obama is getting the Democrat base, McCain the Republican, and without huge turnouts on one side or the other, the middle of the political landscape decides the election.

If you are talking politics with a mixed group of people (why bother talking to a bunch who agree with you after all, they already know what you're going to say) then someone sooner or later is going to make an asinine argument like this and if you are unable to defend against it, then you, and your viewpoint, look worse for it, whether the argument is trash or not. I'm of the opinion that it is far better to be knowledgeable than ignorant. If you disagree with that basic statement, that's your prerogative.

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