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		    <title>Chino Blanco Commented on Mormon Like Me:  Black Saints, Bigots, and Beck by Chino Blanco</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Genghis, SIDistic, </p>

<p>Seriously, if Orlando's headed this way, pls pass along that there's no need to be shy.  We're here.  Guest rooms, friends, the whole nine yards.</p>

<p>Genghis knows where to reach me.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Chino Blanco Commented on Mormon Like Me:  Black Saints, Bigots, and Beck by Chino Blanco</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Wendy - I'd really appreciate it - for the purposes of this diary - if pointed comments could point themselves in Mr. Beck's general direction.</p>

<p>Which is kind of the whole point of Margaret's essay.</p>

<p>Black, white, Mormon or not, we're all agreed that Beck's an asshat, right?</p>

<p>Just sayin'.</p>

<p>I'm neither a believer in nor an apologist for the LDS faith.  But Mormonism is where I come from and I haven't turned out all that bad.  It's not a zero-sum game.  I'd like to think that I'm proof that progress is possible.</p>

<p>If Margaret chooses to still believe, to the extent that she refuses to apologize when the institutional church goes wrong, I'm going to respect that.  At least in this thread (ha!).  </p>

<p>And if cornered, I might even defend some of the more admirable aspects of a religious culture whose influence in American civic life I mostly decry.  But that's not what this post is about.</p>

<p>I've railed long and hard enough against the LDS church that I don't feel any need to apologize to my readers for the random occasions when I detect and applaud a note of humanity being sung by the other choir. </p>

<p>Not that we can't have this conversation, but I'd much rather get back to dissin' Beck, OK?</p>]]>
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		    <title>Chino Blanco Commented on Mormon anti-gay efforts in Maine by Chino Blanco</title>
		        
			<published>2009-10-23T11:58:37Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Please feel free to clue us in, Cimarron.</p>

<p>Corrections always welcome.  Gratuitous insults?  Not so much.</p>]]>
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	<title>Chino Blanco recommended Church of $cientology Expose on ABC Nightline by SPQR</title>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Chino Blanco Commented on I&apos;m heterosexual - and it&apos;s just freakin&apos; fantastic by William K. Wolfrum]]></title>
		        
			<published>2009-10-08T17:39:09Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Nah, just happened to spend a few years there and am of course jealous of the poster for living the dream.  Ain't Portuguese grand?  You can wish someone Happy Birthday and congratulate them on their fantastic sexual orientation with the same three words.</p>

<p>Saudades do Brasil!  Tchau!</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Parabéns pra você.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Chino Blanco Commented on Mormon anti-gay efforts in Maine by Chino Blanco</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I grew up Mormon under the impression that we were alone in our own corner (politically, theologically, and otherwise).  </p>

<p>Twenty years on, it seems pretty apparent that we've now teamed up with the theocons.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I agree.  That all sounds about right.</p>

<p>Last year, I helped construct a timeline of Mormon involvement in Prop 8, and this was one of the early dates that stood out:</p>

<p>September 2007:  Mitt Romney, in an interview with Christianity Today, describes an earlier 2007 Salt Lake City meeting between Jerry Falwell and Gordon B. Hinckley to discuss their cooperation on a campaign against same-sex marriage in California. </p>

<p>Source:  <a href="http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/8536/">http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/8536/</a></p>

<p>So, yeah, the Mormons and the Falwells were planning a joint effort on Prop 8 way back before anyone had even heard of Prop 8.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Chino Blanco Commented on Mormon anti-gay efforts in Maine by Chino Blanco</title>
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			<published>2009-10-07T06:43:09Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks, but considering that I only ever post on the same topic, your second sentence is probably a good thing.  As it is, I have to resort to finding friends like Djinn to keep it interesting with a guest post, otherwise this would be yet another diary about NOM's tax returns. </p>]]>
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		    <title>Chino Blanco Commented on Mormon anti-gay efforts in Maine by Chino Blanco</title>
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			<published>2009-10-07T06:34:01Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>By the way, there's a piece in the NY Times today about Utah's new governor and his meeting with Equality Utah that covers some of this same ground: </p>

<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/10/06/us/AP-US-Gay-Rights-Herbert.html">http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/10/06/us/AP-US-Gay-Rights-Herbert.html</a></p>

<p>The article also links to a site that some fellow Mormons have set up, and I'm gonna drop a link here, since they're trying in their own way to make some headway with the Utah and LDS leadership:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ldsapology.org/">http://www.ldsapology.org/</a></p>]]>
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			<published>2009-10-07T06:28:04Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Offended?  The only people who offend me are these well-to-do, well-educated Mormon leaders who peddle ignorance and hate to their followers.  I am so totally not offended by anything you typed.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The latest ad from the Yes on 1 side in Maine actually ends with this line:  "Vote Yes on Question 1 to prevent homosexual marriage from being pushed on Maine students."</p>

<p>Apparently, public school teachers could soon have the power to turn kids gay and would begin marrying them off during school hours just as soon as they were.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Chino Blanco Commented on Mormon anti-gay efforts in Maine by Chino Blanco</title>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Well, my sense is that many on the anti-gay side also know there are no good objections left, but they're cynically revving up the noise machine and milking homophobia for every vote and dollar they can get before this whole debate disappears and is forgotten in about ten years time.</p>

<p>Robby George over at Princeton who chairs NOM is no dummy.  As he said in a speech at BYU, at some point the full faith and credit clause will be brought to apply and Utah will be "whipped into line" (his words - which lead to wonder if he isn't an Opus Dei self-flagellator - maybe a topic for another post).  </p>]]>
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		    <title>Chino Blanco Commented on Mormon anti-gay efforts in Maine by Chino Blanco</title>
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			<published>2009-10-07T05:31:43Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Well, my sense is that maine4marriage.org site is mostly just window dressing.  As far as I can tell, the PAC itself has so far reported raising $15.  I think mainly it just gives Eileen and Miriam spiffy titles they can sign off with when sending out email blasts to their Mormon network in Maine (e.g., Yours Truly, Miriam Conners, President of Maine4Marriage, yada yada).  A more useful site to visit is republicanproject.org, where you can see Miriam's bio.</p>

<p>Regarding your final question, the explanation I've heard from LDS General Authorities (like Nelson above, and Bednar elsewhere) is that increasing hostility to discrimination against gays threatens to lead to the silencing of the Mormon view that there's something fundamentally wrong with gays, or something like that.  It requires a serious Mormon-sized persecution complex to understand.</p>]]>
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			<published>2009-10-07T05:14:15Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Djinn, the author of this diary, is Mormon.  I'm a sixth-generation Mormon, but haven't participated since returning from my mission to Brazil twenty years ago.  I can't speak for Djinn, but in my case, there's no element of seeking personal reconciliation, just an ongoing interest in the dynamics that lead to so much harm being dished out on gay youth in the community.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Watching Glenn Beck, all I see is a grown man making an ass of himself.</p>

<p>If you're interested in reading a serious Mormon conservative's thoughts on marriage equality, I've always been impressed by Nate Oman's contributions to the discussion:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.patheos.com/Explore/Additional-Resources/Why-Conservatives-Should-Support-Gay-Marriage-07072009.html">http://www.patheos.com/Explore/Additional-Resources/Why-Conservatives-Should-Support-Gay-Marriage-07072009.html</a></p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Well, my sense is that we might actually be doing one better than "rebellion" in Maine and finally "organizing" for victory.</p>

<p>Because, although rebellion sounds like more fun, the folks on the ground who we're counting on now have already been there and done that, and now it's all about them getting the work done.</p>

<p>And I'm now cautiously optimistic that they will.</p>

<p>This post is mostly a call to those stragglers among the faithful who remain hesitant to shout the truth in their hearts from the roof tops: be kind and be not afraid.  </p>]]>
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