Trapped in a Mormon Gulag
UPDATE: West Ridge Academy is licensed by the State of Utah, and their license is up for renewal this month.
We received an e-mail reply from L.J. Dustman at the Utah Department of Human Services, Office of Licensing.
The appropriate contacts are: Bonnie Stuver ( BJSTUVER at utah.gov), and her supervisor Jeffery Harris ( JHARRIS at utah.gov)
By Eric Norwood
Republished with author's permission
Further info at Mormon Gulag

This story is about Eric Norwood's personal experiences at a place called The Utah Boys Ranch, which models itself as a "tough-love" prep-school, but while Eric was there, he witnessed some unbelievable atrocities. It is a Mormon-funded and staffed facility, and religious indoctrination is a fundamental aspect of the school. There was sexual, physical, and emotional abuse, suicide, staff corruption, and escape. A major Utah political figure, Senator Chris Buttars, was the executive director while Eric was there.
This is Eric's story:

His filthy digit tasted like rust and fish. "I can hurt you without leaving any marks," Brent growled as I writhed in agony on the ground. I struggled for breath as he mounted my back, put his finger in my mouth, and pulled back on my cheek, fish-hooking me. The pain was incredible. I tried to beg him to stop, but the words would not come.
After he finished beating and bludgeoning submissiveness into me, he pulled me up by the rope that was lassoed around my waist. The wool army blanket I had fashioned as a skirt had shifted askew and I stood there in my boxers bleeding from my nose, humiliated.
My green Utah Boys Ranch t-shirt had been ridiculously stretched out and looked more like a low cut blouse. I loosened the noose around my waist and pulled the itchy blanket through the loop and folded it over so it looked like a brown bath towel secured by a belt. He wasn't satisfied, he wanted more. I just wanted out of this classroom. I started to think about how I got here.
The Utah Boys Ranch appears to be a kind of tough-love school with a Christian-esque undertow. My parents thought as much when they employed its services in hopes of corralling their spiritually wayward son.
Being kidnapped was probably the last thing I was worried about at 15 years old. I was staying at my grandma's house that fateful night. My step-dad and I had been at war since I had refused to go to seminary, a church service for Mormon kids in high school that began at the ungodly hour of six in the morning.
I loathed early morning seminary more than the three hours of my Sunday regular LDS church service consumed, or the three hours on Wednesday nights. My opposition, paired with my step-dad's religious fanaticism, resulted in being grounded almost to the point of indentured servitude. Grandma's house was my sanctuary. Ironically, when I looked up at the clock that next morning - as two imposing silhouettes entered the house my mom grew up in - it was five minutes to 6 a.m. on Valentine's Day.
I was camped out on the sofa bed in the TV room with a plate of leftover lasagna from the fridge. It was half eaten and a Roseanne re-run was playing when they first walked in. They looked around as if they had been told where to go, but hadn't quite envisioned it right. They looked to their left, saw the terrified eyes of a 15-year-old, and pounced. They shoved clothes and shoes on me and I was gone before I was able to think about which way I should run. They told me very little. Their first names were Paul and Barry.
Barry was a white guy, a big mother. At least 6'5", and I would not be surprised to hear that he weighed more than 300 pounds, but he was not fat. Paul was shorter and had a darker complexion. He was big too, and meaner than Barry. He turned to me when we first got into their white mid-sized rental car and said, "You have a choice. You can be cool and get on an airplane with us and be there in a couple of hours, or you can sit back there with handcuffs on for the next 12 hours. Non-stop."
"Where are we going?" I asked, still in shock.
"Utah," Barry answered casually from the passenger seat, without turning his head. "We are from the Utah Boys Ranch, Eric, and your parents have asked us to take you back with us."
"What?" My head was spinning. I felt like I was going to throw up. There is no way that this was happening. My mom would never allow this. Utah? What the hell is a Boys Ranch? I couldn't breathe.
"I guess we're driving," Paul said odiously.
I knew the child-lock would be on and as I saw the familiar houses of my grandmother's street pass by, I started to roll down the window. We weren't going fast enough for them to notice yet and the warm Agoura Hills climate didn't tip them off. I rolled it down enough to fit my arm out and open the door from the outside when Paul paused at the stop sign at the bottom of the hill, looked back at me, and stopped the car.
He shoved the gear into park and pulled handcuffs out of somewhere and told me to give him my wrists. I sat there cuffed for a moment when I realized that I really would die from this feeling in my chest - a physical manifestation of angst. My heart was beating furiously, and I knew that I couldn't last 12 hours.
"You can take me on a plane. I'll be cool."
"Now that's more like it," Barry said kindly. "My wife will be happy."
The first person I met in Utah was Senator Chris Buttars. I had no idea who he was until that point.
All I knew was that he was to be feared, and I was scared to death of him from the moment I first saw him.
"Sit down," he squawked in a loud, high pitched, galling voice that sounded like a cross between a buzzard and an old cowboy. He continued to make it very clear that I was at his mercy. He told me who he was - politically - and the influence he had. If I ever wanted to leave I was to do what he said. "How old are you?"
"Fifteen," I mumbled.
"Three years might not be enough for you. I can have a judge order you to be here until you are 21," he croaked. With that he sent me off to be "changed and put on work crew."
I was led down a long hall of doors with nameplates. I had no clue what kind of place this was. I didn't see any cows or horses...no sign of what I thought a "ranch" would resemble. Paul took me into a small room that was no bigger than a broom closet, which was stacked to the ceiling with three colors of cloth, blue, green and brown. There were green t-shirts, blue t-shirts, and blue jeans.
There were also brown army wool blankets, and I remember thinking that I didn't want to sleep under such a coarse covering before I was told to "put it on." I was told to wrap a thick, itchy blanket around my waist like a towel and wear it like a dress.
I was then given a "leash" made of climbing rope and what I think was a square knot to tie around my waist.
I had never imagined being tethered and walked like a dog, but here I was, being walked like a dog towards a cluster of about 12 other boys. They were lined up facing a wall while two large men in red sweatshirts watched them from a couple of chairs off to the side.
Some of the boys had camouflage pants on, a few others wore dresses. I wondered how long I was to be in this blanket dress. I was later told that it was so I wouldn't run away - and they were right - I literally could not run in this humiliating getup. I could barely get a full stride walking.
That's when I saw Brent - or 'Captain America,' as he was called disparagingly - for the first time. My leash was handed off to him, but he told me to wrap it around my waist and go join the group of young men who were standing with their noses touching the wall, all spread out about arms length from each other.
I turned to the boy who was standing to my right and asked him how long he had been here, but before I could get my question all the way out, my forehead careened into the carpeted wall in front of me. A sharp pain stabbed the back of my head, and suddenly bad breath filled my nostrils. "Are you talking on my work crew, boy?" a red-shirted man screamed at me.
My head was ringing. I was still trying to piece together what had just happened when I looked behind me and massaged the pain in my head. Suddenly my legs fell out from underneath me and I was on my back.
He had just slammed my forehead into the wall, and now he had put his foot behind mine and pushed me, sending me to the floor flat on my back.
He stood over me and bawled, "Don't look at me. Don't look around. Don't you MOVE without permission! You don't do anything without permission! If you talk, I think you are talking about running away, and I will restrain you. Do you understand?" I nodded. I knew then that I had to get out of this place. I wasn't going to last here.
It was only my second week on work crew when Neil Westwood refused to turn his back to Brent and place his nose on the wall, which is what the command "face the wall" plainly meant. It was a Mexican standoff for a few moments. Stunningly it seemed like Brent was going to let Neil get his way. I had never seen an older boy in a pissing contest with a staff member before. The younger kids refused commands, but they were always quickly thumped into docility.
Neil was a big kid, a lot bigger than me - probably 230 pounds or so, and over six-feet tall, but dispelled any image of toughness with his glasses, disproportionately small arms, and frizzy hairdo. Neil was as obnoxious as he was an easy target, but I still can't believe that no one reacted when Brent stood up in a flash of rage and chucked a full, unopened gallon of milk at Neil's face from about five feet away, crumbling him to a pitiful puddle of tears, blood, and non-fat milk.
The work crew was depraved. When they didn't have us facing the wall for hours at a time we were digging ditches with spoons, only to fill them back in again.
We made huge piles of heavy rocks taken from the field, the field that both surrounded and contained us, only to be told to move the massive mound to another location. They worked us in ways redolent of Stalin's gulags.
There was an agonizing week of all-day sod laying - with bits of mud and grass sticking to the inside of my wool dress - in preparation for some ceremony the work crew boys weren't privy to. The Scarecrow Festival was even worse. We worked for weeks from eight in the morning till eight at night in preparation and to take down that contrived fall carnival/ fundraiser. Boys wished for death. There was also a dry-cleaning service that they operated somewhere in town, which was supposedly much better than any job on campus - even kitchen duty.
Getting off from work crew meant school during the day, and considerably less work. Some sadist there created a t-shirt caste system that involved wearing either a blue t-shirt or green t-shirt. "Blue shirts" could talk, receive letters (which were opened and read first), talk to their parents, and possibly go off campus.
"Green shirts" were allowed into school, but that was about it. No speaking, sitting, or anything but working or reading LDS literature. A "green shirt" was forced to read the Book of Mormon, in particular the first 22 chapters. We were interviewed by one of the four full-time Mormon missionaries that worked there and had to paraphrase all of "First Nephi" before receiving a blue t-shirt. What good derives from reading the Book of Mormon under duress is anyone's guess, but I did it. I had to.
I had to go to church and seminary too.
It turns out that any form of decadence - smoking a little grass, telling your math teacher to sit on it, being gay or bi-curious, sexually assaulting a family member or young girl - is curable by a little hard work, tough love, and Mormon doctrine. Boys with "sexual issues" are housed together in what could only be some cruel showing of satire.
They were constantly being caught jerking each other off onto each other, or, more tragically, assaulting younger boys. Whatever it was, they would be shoved into blankets and thrown on work crew. On Tuesday night they would meet with all the boys with sexual issues and provide remedies like IcyHot on the penis to stifle homosexual urges.
I was kept there until they couldn't keep me any longer, and on my 18th birthday I walked out the front doors into a cold October morning with nowhere to go and nothing but my freedom. If I didn't experience it myself I would not believe a place like this exists. A Mormon gulag.
How do they get away with all of the abuse? The forced religion, the stifling of freedom of speech? Was it legal to prevent us from reporting abuse to authorities, or to restrain us with ropes, wool blankets, and duct tape? Is it legal to force young boys to talk about masturbation with Mormon clergy and missionaries? How does all of this go unnoticed? We were young and naive and didn't know that most of what they did to us was illegal. Buttars was famous for telling us that we had only three rights: food, safety, and shelter. They failed to even live up to those standards.
Besides being callow, we hardly had the chance to report any abuse. They instruct parents to ignore any claims of abuse from their children. They call any complaints from children a manipulation tool - "fear factor" - and instruct parents to be wary of the "tactic" they say they encounter most.
There were also no phones to call the police. No nurses or medical examiners to talk to. No government authorities to check in on us. Incongruously, this Orwellian facility desperately needs government oversight.
Sen. Buttars said it all when he told a reporter, "What sets us apart is that we're the only residential treatment facility that doesn't seek or accept government funding. If we did, they'd control us."
















A Mormon "Gulag" or something
???
C'mon, Marc, your hostility's showing.
January 5, 2009 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is typical one-sided anti-Mormon nonsense. This is a story told with deliberate prejudice and exaggerated to the point of being laughable. I'd love to talk to the parents of this "victim" and get their spin on his story. Sorry... not buying this propaganda.
January 5, 2009 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unless I'm mistaken, tumbleweedblues, you've recently registered here at TPMCafé for the sole purpose of commenting under my post. I don't know if you're part of the DNA crowd that's been stalking me lately, but here's a heads up, from one Mormon to another:
"When you use the notion of religious faithfulness as a weapon to enforce political uniformity, you distort the nature of religion, you bruise the message of the gospel, and you make our church look like a cult."
The election is over. Prop 8 won. I congratulate you and your fellow travelers. That said, come up with a new argument or give it a rest already.
Nobody here is "anti-Mormon." That's typical Mormon paranoia. This is a political blog and we're having a political discussion, OK? In other words, we're talking about stuff that's all about what our country (not our church) was founded on.
Why don't you run along and read this latest from the Napa Valley Register:
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2009/01/04/opinion/commentary/doc4960452079538468064256.txt
It's good stuff. Explains a lot of concepts that I'm tired of going over and over again with your ilk.
That said, I'm gonna put a plug in here for a couple of Mormon blogs that I enjoy:
http://timesandseasons.org/
http://www.bycommonconsent.com/
Why don't you take your complaints to T&S or BCC, tumbleweedblues? I'm sure they'd make for a fascinating post over in the "bloggernacle" ... I mean, you, over there, talking about how transgressive Chino has been in all of this, what's not to like?
Let's see how your own propaganda flies over there.
My guess is that it never has (flown over there), which explains why you're here.
January 5, 2009 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems to me Chino that you shout that it is a political blog but your concentration is on a religous group. Your quick use of the word "paranoia" also seems to reflect a certain lack of critical thinking. Mormons by and large are not paranoid, they aren't crazy, and they certainly aren't evil. Of course you could have called it the Mormon "holocaust". Generally people who use words like gulag and holocaust are relatively ignorant of their actual meanings.
The subject went to a boys school. Not that I am a fan of such things, but when one filters out the hyperbole it seems to reflect what most boys schools are (and some military schools).
Actually when all is said and done. The author sounds like one hell of a whiner...
January 5, 2009 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome to TPMCafé, jasyn.
Noted. I'll change the title and this weird post about some whiner named Eric will henceforth be known as "Trapped at a Mormon Clam Bake."
OK?
January 5, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like Alexia Parks ignorantly included "gulag" in the title of her book - An American GULAG : Secret P.O.W. Camps for Teens.
January 6, 2009 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for this expose. I know as you know that there is corruption, torture, and mean bastards like the Senator, in many places. And under many guises.
This really sickens me. It is beautifully written.
And I would like to know what happened to Eric.
Some Mormans, and some Fallwells and some Osamas have demonstrated all the bad things religion can generate.
But there are good Mormans, good Christians and good Muslims.
What you are demonstrating is a real gulag.
January 5, 2009 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rec'd. Chino, thank you for posting this, I have worked in residential treatment centers in the past, good ones, and I know that the kind of things you describe can and do happen. The central issue here is not the religious affiliation of the center but whether the treatment there is actually abusive. If it is, then it's wrong, and Mormons as well as non-Mormons should be against it. All religions have adherents who do bad things. I hope that the incoming administration will do something about rogue treatment centers like the one you describe.
January 5, 2009 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I'd hope parents would take it upon themselves to actually research all available options before committing their children to a particular treatment center.
January 5, 2009 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was my reaction as well. I witnessed a similarly horrible situation where my cousin got kidnapped to some hell-hole in the middle of a Louisana swamp. Later, I worked with a guy who got sent to one of these places in friggin Jamaica. Talk about no escape! This place actually sounded kind of nice compared to the one Jason got stuck in.
It is exactly the same formulation used by STRAIGHT back when I was a teenager. It is also the basic operational mechanism of many Boot-Camp style military academies.
I think it minimizes the actual issue to frame it as something specific to the LDS church and calls into serious question the motivation and honesty of the original author.
January 5, 2009 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't get your last graf.
There's a world out there with people who have stories that don't fit into any particular frame.
And that makes them liars?
That's quite the conceit. I get where you're coming from, but c'mon ...
January 5, 2009 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am not challenging your motives at all.
I want that to be clear Chino. This piece is about pure hell, pure corruption and the enslavery of children.
January 5, 2009 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
#1 Eric Norwood has lived in LA for over 20 years meaning that at least 2 decades have elapsed since his experience and this writing. Distant memories are notorious sources for embellished history.
#2 Senator Buttars was elected to his seat in 2001. When Mr. Norwood encountered him, Buttars was not an acting state official - the narrative is rather misleading on this.
#3 mormongulag.com was registered 9/9/2008 ... at the height of the Prop.8 battle when progressives were openly discussing attacking the Mormon church for their support of the measure.
#4 "The Utah Boys Ranch Network" - billed as a victim's support group - issued their one and only newsletter Oct 2008. Again, are we really to believe that there is no relationship to Prop. 8 and the creation of this group? Also, neither California nor Utah have record of this charity (but I'm not sure I searched right).
#5 Unlike other victim support groups, the UBRN website provides no resources to actually help anyone who may have been abused. It is exclusively a propaganda site with all content geared to cause the uninitiated to fear/hate the facility.
As someone who has worked with legitimate victim's groups in the past (spousal abuse), this is simply not the way I've seen real advocacy groups operating. The goal is the health and well being of the victim. The concept of improving victim health is completely lacking from this group's materials.
#6 mormongulag.com has backdated many of their "Bad Press" blog entries to look like they have been operating since 2003. Like referring to Buttars as a senator despite the context being decades prior to his election, this is sort of dishonest.
#7 The source(s) of support for both the website and the nonprofit(if it exists?) are not disclosed. Ownership of the site is also hidden behind a private registration. This is not how legitimate non-profit charities usually operate, it's how right wing smear operatives do it.
So 20 years later, out of the blue, this Eric guy suddenly decides that now is the time to speak up for all the abused Mormon kids? Amazingly it happened when there was coordinated effort by many groups to attack the Mormon church on all fronts for their support of Prop 8? Talk about divine coincidence!
I'm not saying he's a liar. I'm saying there could be more to his motivation (and source of funding) than a concern over this boot-camp facility. He's not being particularly honest about that.
January 5, 2009 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I grew up near this place and knew a kid who went there. This article is consistent with the stories I heard from him, including the sexual assaults.
I want to point out though that this thing is not at all sponsored by the LDS church. In fact, I'm very uncomfortable having the Book of Mormon used this way (I'm an active Mormon). Obviously, recovery programs / facilities can do a lot of good, but this particular one seems to have issues.
January 5, 2009 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obviously, recovery programs / facilities can do a lot of good,
There is no basis at all to say that. Which recovery programs? At which times? Define "good"
You know there is nothing but anecdotal evidence, most of it self serving, for these programs.
Why don't we take religion completely out of it? Let's have a rehabilitation professional or psychologist look at the techniques and the program, compare it to sucessful ones point by point.
Starting with the kidnapping and the handcuffs.
A program which starts with kidnapping, and can include physical and sexual assualt can't do a goddam thing for anybody, except maybe the owners.
Dotheboys hall, with magic underwear.
January 5, 2009 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chino wrote: "Unless I'm mistaken, tumbleweedblues, you've recently registered here at TPMCafé for the sole purpose of commenting under my post.
Don't flatter yourself. Your posts (like this article) are utterly inane and without merit. However, I will give you some advice: Try using spellchecker. It might open up a new world for you. Ciao.
January 5, 2009 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the tip, TWB. You rock.
January 5, 2009 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Mooser
I'm going to ignore the bigotry in your remarks. As a teenager I had friends who were addicted to drugs, on the downward spiral, who were helped by different (secular) recovery facilities. They are now adults and live productive, normal lives. That is my basis for saying that and yes, that is anecdotal. So what?
January 5, 2009 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
A discussion of the psychology behind these institutions, and damage the methodology does to kids and their parents alike, is an important discussion to have. I have experienced it first hand in my family and have seen it in my friends. Some parents LOVE the idea that their kids are broken through no fault of their own and jump on the idea that someone will "fix" them (leaving the parents with a full time babysitter and free to do god-knows-what rather than fulfill their role as parents).
The methods employed, by this facility and countless others run by many various groups, are brutal. Ultimately they base their actions on the same theories used at Gitmo: break down the subject, eliminate their feelings of worth and then present them with an escape that allows the ego to be rebuilt in a more desirable fashion. The dogma changes between different places, but the outcomes are based on breaking the will/mind and then rebuilding the person.
IMO the discussion requires an honest framing of the phenomena. Contextualizing it as an outcropping of the LDS church masks the common thread between all proponents of this methodology and the influence a military culture has had on making it acceptable (and how accepting this for our kids is tied into larger institutional abuses). It's an issue that strikes home to me which is why I jumped in on this.
January 5, 2009 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I've appreciated and enjoyed reading your comments. I'm just not sure how any of your objections change the reality that UBR's program uses a very Mormon approach.
January 6, 2009 1:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Eric responds:
I've been following the comments on your diary, and you are correct, this is without any doubt a Mormon facility. Those that imply otherwise are simply fooling themselves or trying to fool others. Here are a few connections, in case you are interested:
Influential Mormons on the "Board of Directors":
Sen Chris Buttars (no further comment needed)
Sally Wyne - Instructor of religion at BYU
Lavar Christensen - Former Utah Legislator
Also, as I said, there are four full-time missionaries on staff. This is not even debatable. It is an absolutely discoverable fact, they are still there right now.
There are two seminary teachers that are full time staff.
A designated ward, complete with a bishop and counselors for the "school."
As I said LDS literature was forced on us
The LDS church donates more money than any other organization or contributor
Former President of the church Gordon B. Hinckley has mentioned the Utah Boys Ranch in a talk
The relatives of many high ranking church officials - like L. Tom Perry - have been sent there
100% of the staff that work there are active Mormons. Many are bishops in their own wards.
January 6, 2009 1:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't normally participate in these kinds of discussions, but I wanted to clear up some glaring misconceptions --
kgb999 said:
"#1 Eric Norwood has lived in LA for over 20 years meaning that at least 2 decades have elapsed since his experience and this writing. Distant memories are notorious sources for embellished history."
--False. The events described in this story all happened between 2000 - and October 2002.
"#2 Senator Buttars was elected to his seat in 2001. When Mr. Norwood encountered him, Buttars was not an acting state official - the narrative is rather misleading on this."
--In light of the facts and dates clearly this is false, and the narrative is not at all misleading. Chris Buttars WAS an acting senator while he was at the Utah Boys Ranch, until he was forced to retire in 2004. He was a
#3 mormongulag.com was registered 9/9/2008 ... at the height of the Prop.8 battle when progressives were openly discussing attacking the Mormon church for their support of the measure.
--Ah, you've got me. This is a veiled Prop. 8 battle, please disregard anything you read from here on out. Seriously, #3 is so ridiculous it hardly deserves a response.
#4 "The Utah Boys Ranch Network" - billed as a victim's support group - issued their one and only newsletter Oct 2008. Again, are we really to believe that there is no relationship to Prop. 8 and the creation of this group? Also, neither California nor Utah have record of this charity (but I'm not sure I searched right).
--False. There have been multiple monthly newsletters, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. I would check again about the charity status of the UBRN, by the way. Your showing your investigative journalism skills.
#5 Unlike other victim support groups, the UBRN website provides no resources to actually help anyone who may have been abused. It is exclusively a propaganda site with all content geared to cause the uninitiated to fear/hate the facility.
--Funny, but again false. I'm beginning to feel like I'm dealing with an apologist or a snake-oil salesmen more than a concerned citizen. The UBRN has provided referrals for many former victims seeking assistance.
#6 mormongulag.com has backdated many of their "Bad Press" blog entries to look like they have been operating since 2003. Like referring to Buttars as a senator despite the context being decades prior to his election, this is sort of dishonest.
-- More snake-oil. The dates used on the blog are the dates the articles were published. That is the standard when reprinting articles, if you weren't aware. And again, you are wrong about the timing, but I don't suspect that will matter much to you.
#7 The source(s) of support for both the website and the nonprofit(if it exists?) are not disclosed. Ownership of the site is also hidden behind a private registration. This is not how legitimate non-profit charities usually operate, it's how right wing smear operatives do it.
Nonsense. That absolutely IS how legitimate non-profits operate.
"So 20 years later, out of the blue, this Eric guy suddenly decides that now is the time to speak up for all the abused Mormon kids? Amazingly it happened when there was coordinated effort by many groups to attack the Mormon church on all fronts for their support of Prop 8? Talk about divine coincidence!"
Get out the tinfoil hat! In all honesty, I was four years old 20 years ago.
"I'm not saying he's a liar."
And I'm not saying you are crazy AND wrong. Just wrong.
January 6, 2009 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like the same hype that was put forth by the 1856 book "My Life as a Mormon Wife". Especially given the strong counter argument in the last post.
January 7, 2009 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It appears there is much misleading evidence and little to counter it.
Mostly we have the authors word for it and frankly, I see an agenda here and little more. It makes the author less trustworthy in regard to the information. More to the point there is little to no corroborating evidence beyond teh authors word.
The "ranch" could have been sued long ago by either the author or others.
Freedom of information act would have made claims of abuse available to the public if the author so deemed there were such cimplaints.
These two facts alone lead one to question the veracity of the author.
January 7, 2009 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
And what's your agenda, jasyn?
I see you've popped up over at this thread ...
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/01/chris_buttars_and_the_mormon_g.php
... spouting the same line.
Reality is that UBR has been sued and will likely be sued again. Not sure what you mean by bringing up FOIA in the context of a privately-owned entity. In any case, Eric claims abuse, but all you do is try to discredit him. This is me wondering why you're so anxious to do that.
January 7, 2009 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
6-7 PM MST - Friday, Jan 9th
Listen in and catch the author of "Trapped in a Mormon Gulag" in a discussion with Utah Boys Ranch staff on KRCL.org @ 6 PM Mountain Standard Time on Friday, Jan 9th ...
http://www.krcl.org/
January 8, 2009 11:28 PM | Reply | Permalink