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As long as they were considering "Jack Bauer" scenarios, why not just use Sodium Thiopental... Truth Serum.

Sodium thiopental, better known as Sodium Pentothal (a trademark of Abbott Laboratories), thiopental, thiopentone sodium, or trapanal, is a rapid-onset short-acting barbiturate general anaesthetic. It is an intravenous ultra-short-acting barbiturate. Sodium thiopental is a depressant and is sometimes used during interrogations--not to cause pain (in fact, it may have just the opposite effect), but to weaken the resolve of the subject and make him or her more compliant to pressure.[citation needed] Thiopental is a core medicine in the World Health Organization's "Essential Drugs List", which is a list of minimum medical needs for a basic health care system.[3]

Truth serum

Thiopental is still used in some places as a truth serum.[8] The barbiturates as a class decrease higher cortical brain functioning. Some psychiatrists hypothesize that because lying is more complex than telling the truth, suppression of the higher cortical functions may lead to the uncovering of the "truth". However, the reliability of confessions made under thiopental is dubious; the drug tends to make subjects chatty and cooperative with interrogators, but a practiced liar or someone who has a false story firmly established would still be quite able to lie while under the influence of the drug.[9]

Surely, it's efficacy is no more dubious than beating the hell out of someone, or nearly drowning him. And certainly it's more "humane." After all, it's one of the drugs used for administering the death penalty via lethal injection.

Maybe instead of lawyers, they needed a "script doctor."


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Because to give drugs for the purpose of people talking is also a war crime.

P.S. Are you familiar with the Torture is a Moral Issue slogan of some group that is organizing religions against torture? And have been for some time. I only mention that because I think it would make a great slogan for an arm-band.

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If that's so, and we're going to break a law, then given the two approaches, I would say give 'em a dose of C11H17NaO2S.

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According to this article, the CIA did give Sodium thiopental to detainees. Why am I not shocked?

However, sodium thiopental was used by the CIA for many years, and was recently used against Al-Qaeda members to find out secrets within the organization... But it does not work on people who truly believe in their lies, and therefore is not a reliable source of information.
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Here's one who "turned" I think:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/22/723294/-Shep-Smith:-We-do-not-f***ing-torture!UPDATED-w-VIDEOS

Transcript:


We are America! I don't give a rat's ass if it [torture] helps, we are America! We do not fucking torture! We don't do it.

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Well it depends on whether he thinks we did already torture or not. Since one of the talking points is to belittle the degree to which we treated people.

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I don't know musgrove. For anyone on Fox News to say that after reading the memos, there was clearly torture and Smith didn't want it in his name ... is like blasphemy or something. I was truly shocked at how reasonable he sounded (while yelling).

The videos are also here on HuffPo.

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Yea i saw the clips and in it he says he doesnt want to define torture, so he leaves himself wiggle room on the subject of whether we did it already or not, and you can see what i was talking about with one of the other guys belittling "walling" by saying we just "pushed" the guy. Yea... just pushed him into the wall, whats so bad about that? Though we did have to give him protective gear for his neck so it wouldn't break... Its so absurd when they play down stuff like that. Yelling at someone isn't torture either, but having a group of people constantly yell at someone for days straight can be. A lot of this is to what degree was things done, and for what we know is the degree of what they did sure as hell passed the threshold to be considered torture. But those's talking heads just keep downplaying it to make it sound so minor.

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I'm just sayin'... It's not as if the spectre of committing "war crimes" was any kind of deterrent.

(Not that one is any better or more desirable than the other, but really... )

As for Shep Smith at Faux News... time for him to find a new gig at a real news org.


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