Nice to know what they really think....and want. Just think of leaving my rights subject to the whim of people like that.

i can think of many things that $83 million would be better spent on than fighting this battle again in 2010 to repeal Prop8, but fight it we will. Until we win.

The donor lists are available for BOTH pro and con. Search the SF Chronicle Website for the link. Or the CA state site. It's only the pro-8 folks complaining.

I ve got know problem with people knowing I donated against H8.

I deplore violence and vandalism. But if you vote against me, I want to know: because I will choose not to do business with you. I'm sure you'll be happier without my gay dollars.

Read the post. The pro-H8 tried to blackmail anti-8 folks before the election.

Another old saying:
turnabout is fair play.

are all true. Our kids don't understnad why this is an issue; it will die eventually. In the meantime, we need to find ways to reach across boundaries and find that common experience. The trolls remind us of how far to go...

If you haven't seen Milk, see it. It's an important film, and very moving. I grew up in the Bay Area and remember these events vividly. The news footage took me right back there.

As for the troll, why don't you just ignore it? It feeds on attention and nothing you say will change its mind. I think it's great that you guys try to engage, but save your energy to engage with those who are willing to listen.

If CUs were actually treated the same, that would be fine. But, they are not. THere are numerous cases in which legally unioned people were denied their legal rights because it's not marriage. Indeed, that was the foundation of the recent decisions in NJ in favor of gay marriage: the testimony of people with unions that they were actually NOT treated as married, even within the state.

In CA it has been the same. And it is of small satisfaction to know you can sue someone for denying you access to your partner in the ER after they are dead. (there have been a number of cases in CA where legally partnered people were denied access in hospitals).

Without case law actually testing every claim of a unioned couple to be the same as marriage (we call them DPs here), there is no certainty they will be treated the same.

Our attorney told us not to bother to file a DP, since it was completely unreliable legally. We have to carry around proof of all our powers of attorney, etc anyway.

MARRIAGE is.....everything. It's the difference between jumping over a broomstick (DP) and an actual marriage with the weight of the state and society behind it.

Separate is not equal. It is not treated equally, we know through experience. I say the state should give EVERYONE a union and reserve the M-word for religion. How likely do you think that is?

It's not just semantics.

Prevention: what is that old saying about an ounce vs a pound?