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Parking Spot for a Problem with Tables, Edit and Missing Introduction


Andrew and Adam - I suspect there are some new software problems. Explanation follows:  

On Jan 1 I submitted what follows this block as an edit to an old Top Discussion Table post, "Candidates want Iraq to pay US for the Cost of the War". That old post appeared suddently on the Tables main page.   

I submitted the edited post for the reasons specified below. BUT not only did the edit fail to go to the Moderation queue but the whole Table post along with the edited version disappeared from the Cafe site, at least to me. So I am using my blog as a parking spot for the edited Table content.

When I pasted the material to form this blog the links for bullets 3 and 4 disappeared. 

Update - I have now tried to put the links back in for bullets 3 and 4 below and the posts are gone, even when I go to my history.  

Update 2 - I still cannot find the orginal Table post on the site.  When I Google it, I get an address (link here) but when I go to that address I get this message: "You are not authorized to access this page."  

 

In Jan 2007 I am editing this old Table post [Candidates want Iraq to pay US for the Cost of the War", published on Jan 14, 2006] because:

(1.) As of around 2:30 1/1/07 it now shows up on the Main Discussion tables page [under the Top Discussions table] although it was first published Jan 14, 2006 and there are no new comments.

 (2.) As it is now published in 2007 it is missing the lead paragraphs (the introduction) so makes no sense.

BUT

(3.) If I go back to the list of all my postings (blog and Tables) it does contain the introduction.

BUT

 (4.) If I go to the specific table post [to get a specific address] all I get is the post in its abbreviated form.

[ Andrew/Adam -----

Maybe this whole screwup can be linked back to the Cafe software changeover that happened after Jan 14, 2006. If so, then this is one more example of the problem artappraiser has continually raised the since the software changeover. Dropping the introductions to past posts makes Cafe history virtually worthless.]

This is material that is missing from the Candidates want Iraq to pay US for the Cost of the War" post on the Tables main page in 2007:

14 Candidates for Congress are asking Iraq to pay the US back for war and reconstruction costs! Signees include Dems and Reps from GA, IL, IN, MS, MD, MN, NV, OH and TX.

The email being circulated to get others to sign on includes the names and districts of those who are aleady signed up.

Selections from the email to to candidates: "We, the Coalition for National Referendum, are writing to you as a Congressional Candidate. 14 Congressional Candidates are now in support of the "statement" contained below..... The issue we are writing to you about is Iraq repaying the United States for the expenditures that have been made in Iraq" .... http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0601/S00025.htm

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From here down is the abbreviated posting as it appears in 2007 on the Tables page:

email continues:

"US has spent over $250 Billion ($1,967. from every American Household) to aid in the reconstruction and defense of Iraq. Iraq has the third largest proven oil reserve in the world, 115 Billion barrels, worth over $6 Trillion. ....

We are not suggesting that this repayment from Iraq be done in a harsh way. Rather we are stating that the repayments occur over a period of time so that Iraq can continue to rebuild and grow economically. Repayments form Iraq would encourage the Iraqi people to quicken the pace of providing for their own security. Thereby bringing the war to a successful conclusion and allowing American troops to return home safely.

We have found through "focus groups" that over 70% of the people support this proposal, regardless if they are Republicans or Democrats, for or against the war"...

List of 14 candidates at the end of the email


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Andrew/Adam --

It's not that my past writing needs to be preserved for posterity but I believe I have come upon one or more things where the site software is not working properly.  I am guessing the problem is having an impact on more than my old posts since it is hard to believe that just that one old post is somehow getting unique treatment.

The larger issue may be that old posts in totality are disappearing or maybe they disappear when the author tries to edit the text, as I did in Jan 2007.  Maybe the problem is limited to  posts that were initially published prior to the change from Scoop to Drupal software.

As of today Jan 3, I still cannot get to the old Table post that was stored in  Top Discussion Table (fyi I assume it started on the Foreign policy table)

The post, "Candidates want Iraq to pay for the Cost of the War" (published 1/14/06),  is not visible in either the chronological list of site Top Dicussion posts [should be on page 3 by date] nor on the lists of all my posts on the site.

Still, when I google the title it appears but when I try to get there I get the "access is denied" message on the site's Top Discussions page.

When I go to the cached version from the google search [address here) I get this message:

This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2006/1/13/184239/136 as retrieved on Dec 28, 2006 13:49:56 GMT.
G o o g l e's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we crawled the web.

The cached version shown at the cache address is abbreviated, i.e. missing the introduction.

If the missing old posts problem is not of concern, how about what happened to the table post edit and submission process? I edited this post in question, submitted it and it never appeared in the moderation queue. The disappearance cannot be attributed to the black hole issue since it never made it to the queue so could not have been voted down.

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