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A Word from Nietzsche


"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments."
  - Friedrich Nietzsche

Seeing this today as the "quote of the day" I was struck how it fits the times we live in.  Would that the Repubs could find it in themselves enough introspection to recognize it as an indictment of their daily drivel.

Come to think of it, maybe those of us progressives with little finance background who continue to be enraged by what is or is not being done to solve the global financial crisis (myself included) might also be reminded that when we speak out of our lack of understanding - even ignorance at times - it may well be harming the cause just as those "deliberately faulty arguments" do.  [Note to self: Take this to heart.]

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I don't mean to be unduly mean, but if you're quoting Nietzsche, please spell his name right.

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Oops! Thanks. I'll correct.

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Weez Canuckz likez tooz putz Z'z inz everythingz.

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And just maybe - since dear FN cast his net widely - we should consider the degree to which this applies to our financial leaders, Geithner, Summers and yes, the whole apparatus. Somehow the unbreakable, sacred nature of contracts didn't strike me as all that plausible. Rec'd intp.

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FN strikes again. Fab. Recd

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8 years of faulty arguments. It took 8 years before people started questioning them. Well 6 years. Most pols and big businesses have been looking for the short term profit for some time.

By the way, Your avatar is SPOOKY. And beautiful.

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Thanks. My avatar is my hope for some wisdom to rub off on me.

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I personally love it!

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I don't mean to be unduly contrarian; but business is not rocket science. It doesn't take much to understand it or make one out of whole cloth, so to speak.

It also doesn't take a great mind to read a contract; so a "priesthood" is hardly necessary to interpret for us.

One can be conversant and analytical about a great many things; and also opine about those things with factual certainty. What the Randians and neocons have argued since before The New Deal is certainly predicated on faulty logic, but also perpetuated by out and out lies.

That is why it doesn't take much intelligence to ferret out that our financial, political and judicial institutions are populated with ideological crooks who are tasked with dismantalling this Democracy and substituting it with a Malaysian- style, authoritarian oligarchy.

In fact, it is so obvious that one cannot deny it, cannot run or hide from it; that is why the following quote has always resonated with me:

"A man who has depths in his shame meets his destiny and his delicate decisions upon paths which few ever reach, and with regard to the existence of which his nearest and most intimate friends may be ignorant; his mortal danger conceals itself from their eyes, and equally so his regained security. Such a hidden nature, which instinctively employs speech for silence and concealment, and is inexhaustible in evasion of communication, desires and insists that a mask of himself shall occupy his place in the hearts and heads of his friends; and supposing he does not desire it, his eyes will some day be opened to the fact that there is nevertheless a mask of him there--and that it is well to be so."

-- Friedrich Nietzsche
"Thus Spake Zarathustra"

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Thanks for the quote. Will Durant said of Nietzsche that he may have been more of a poet than a philopoher, but he was a magnificent poet.

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Thanks, Justice.

You guys may convert me to Nietzsche yet! As to a poet, I could do that.

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Excellent Justice!

You are exactly right about what they're up to. Seems to me a pretty good reason to rise up and do something about it. But my read of the people of this country is that they'll be soothed by the BS and passively accept their shackles as long as it is done in a gradual manner. I wonder whatever happened to the attitude:

"I'd rather be a dead man in my grave than be living as a pauper or a slave."

How did we lose that?

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One of the best ways to induce a trance in hypnosis is via a gradual, almost imperceptible technique. I wonder how close what you're describing comes to a type of hypnosis....

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well said...

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Perfidious? I was just using that very word to describe the way the cook messed up my eggs over easy this morning. Perfidious-that's exactly what I said to the waitress.

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If you throw money into the Abyss long enough, eventually the Abyss gives that money to some of its top employees, laughs at you and asks for more. -Friedrich Nietzsche, securities analyst, Deutsche Bank

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And it's Destor for the WIN! ;-)

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destor, if you and Obey get together you may be able to dig up more of these quote and documents. You could become the Professor Schickele of apocryphal TPM documents and quotes!

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