Given the fact that she apparently had legal power of attorney for medical decisions, it seems that the only thing that kept her from her partners side is the bigotry of those enforcing the "rules."
How incredibly cruel!
Yeah, she should own the hospital when this is over. And I would hope that she would take a good chunk of that money and place it in opposition to the LDS and other tax-free church funds that would fight in the political arena to keep us in the dark ages.
As an aside, I really hope when these "Christians" die they do go to heaven, only to be met at the gate by Jesus and his domestic partner Peter.
Sayeth one Christian to another: "Oh! Oh! We're truly fucked now!"
Sayeth bluemeanie to SleepinJeezus: you speak truth, my brother.
I am way too cynical when it comes to organized religion to comment on this.
But I will anyway.
I guess this is an example of the good works our holier-than-thou friends plan to ride to heaven on.
Recommended, because everyone needs to know what we are up against.
The world remains as it is unless we start fighting back. I'm not sure how effective blogging is compared with putting our feet on the pavement.
Funny. Was thinking the same thing this morning but on a different issues. Hard to know where to begin, you know?
Religions can do as they wish but in a secular state the right to marriage is a civil right. This incident is a violation of civil rights. Civil rights means everybody. This is part of the civil rights movement.
In my opinion healthcare is also a civil right. Just because the we have won this election does not mean that we can sit back and wait. Look what happened to both gay rights and healthcare after Clinton was elected. We're still waiting.
Well, if the Simon Wiesenthal Center is still looking for ex-nazis...
Of course you are right. It's difficult for me to really understand how things this idiotic and stupid are allowed to occur.
I've been in many a hospital to visit sick and dying persons. Some I've been related to, others not. I have never once had a problem gaining entry to that person's room except if it were an across the board limited access situation such as ICU.
Seems to me just incredibly inappropriate, weird and deliberatly bigoted not to allow someone who obviously is close to a sick or dying person to be with them regardless of what that relationship is. I've never seen a hospital try to limit access to a sick person in this way. It's just contrary to decency as you say, not to mention common sense.
Absolutely. Hard to see how any religion could be warped to support this. And I would think that any pragmatic person, even who opposed gay marriage, would support this as outside of that argument. The Minnesota Family Values Council opposed a measure specifically on this. I don't know what their argument was, but it's hard to face stories like these and not be confronted with the hard truth that it stems from sheer bigotry and intolerance.
My old man used to say that courtesy does not cost one red cent.
Many times, humanity costs nothing. To refuse 'visitation' was nonsensical.
Unbelievable...this ranks up there w/ the stupidest things I've ever heard. There are exceptions to every rule. Anyone who is in a position of power and can't use their brain to figure out when the rule doesn't apply, shouldn't be in that position. This was simply cruel.
It's an act of hatred and bigotry.
Other than keeping strangers away from patients, and keeping the number of visitors to a manageable pace for the sake of the patient's well-being, why should hospitals have anything to say about who visits whom?
Even in the ICU, where I was this morning, to visit a friend, who died 2 hours later; why is it the business of the hospital to police visitors at all, except for as it impinges on someone's health?
Forget same-sex relationships -- the hospital has no business making judgments other than medical ones about visitors - period. The fact that they made a moral judgment in this case is why they should pay for their cold-heartedness.
As an aside, I wonder if the woman who died had any say in this before she went into a coma. It seems odd that this would only come up after she could no longer speak for herself. From the story, it sounded like her partner was refused visiting privileges even when they could have communicated. This seems very confusing to me.
Sickening.
This is appalling. Hospitals should treat their patients and their loved ones regardless with dignity and respect, not make an already traumatic experience even moreso. What is the logic here that people used to justify this? Unbelievable.
"There's no world in which this is right?"
Maybe. But I can think of a lot of the world in which it is "Right."
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Given the fact that she apparently had legal power of attorney for medical decisions, it seems that the only thing that kept her from her partners side is the bigotry of those enforcing the "rules."
How incredibly cruel!
Yeah, she should own the hospital when this is over. And I would hope that she would take a good chunk of that money and place it in opposition to the LDS and other tax-free church funds that would fight in the political arena to keep us in the dark ages.
As an aside, I really hope when these "Christians" die they do go to heaven, only to be met at the gate by Jesus and his domestic partner Peter.
Sayeth one Christian to another: "Oh! Oh! We're truly fucked now!"
February 8, 2009 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sayeth bluemeanie to SleepinJeezus: you speak truth, my brother.
February 8, 2009 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am way too cynical when it comes to organized religion to comment on this.
But I will anyway.
I guess this is an example of the good works our holier-than-thou friends plan to ride to heaven on.
Recommended, because everyone needs to know what we are up against.
February 8, 2009 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
The world remains as it is unless we start fighting back. I'm not sure how effective blogging is compared with putting our feet on the pavement.
February 8, 2009 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny. Was thinking the same thing this morning but on a different issues. Hard to know where to begin, you know?
February 8, 2009 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Religions can do as they wish but in a secular state the right to marriage is a civil right. This incident is a violation of civil rights. Civil rights means everybody. This is part of the civil rights movement.
In my opinion healthcare is also a civil right. Just because the we have won this election does not mean that we can sit back and wait. Look what happened to both gay rights and healthcare after Clinton was elected. We're still waiting.
February 8, 2009 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, if the Simon Wiesenthal Center is still looking for ex-nazis...
February 8, 2009 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course you are right. It's difficult for me to really understand how things this idiotic and stupid are allowed to occur.
I've been in many a hospital to visit sick and dying persons. Some I've been related to, others not. I have never once had a problem gaining entry to that person's room except if it were an across the board limited access situation such as ICU.
Seems to me just incredibly inappropriate, weird and deliberatly bigoted not to allow someone who obviously is close to a sick or dying person to be with them regardless of what that relationship is. I've never seen a hospital try to limit access to a sick person in this way. It's just contrary to decency as you say, not to mention common sense.
February 8, 2009 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely. Hard to see how any religion could be warped to support this. And I would think that any pragmatic person, even who opposed gay marriage, would support this as outside of that argument. The Minnesota Family Values Council opposed a measure specifically on this. I don't know what their argument was, but it's hard to face stories like these and not be confronted with the hard truth that it stems from sheer bigotry and intolerance.
February 8, 2009 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
My old man used to say that courtesy does not cost one red cent.
Many times, humanity costs nothing. To refuse 'visitation' was nonsensical.
February 8, 2009 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unbelievable...this ranks up there w/ the stupidest things I've ever heard. There are exceptions to every rule. Anyone who is in a position of power and can't use their brain to figure out when the rule doesn't apply, shouldn't be in that position. This was simply cruel.
February 8, 2009 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's an act of hatred and bigotry.
February 8, 2009 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Other than keeping strangers away from patients, and keeping the number of visitors to a manageable pace for the sake of the patient's well-being, why should hospitals have anything to say about who visits whom?
Even in the ICU, where I was this morning, to visit a friend, who died 2 hours later; why is it the business of the hospital to police visitors at all, except for as it impinges on someone's health?
Forget same-sex relationships -- the hospital has no business making judgments other than medical ones about visitors - period. The fact that they made a moral judgment in this case is why they should pay for their cold-heartedness.
As an aside, I wonder if the woman who died had any say in this before she went into a coma. It seems odd that this would only come up after she could no longer speak for herself. From the story, it sounded like her partner was refused visiting privileges even when they could have communicated. This seems very confusing to me.
February 8, 2009 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sickening.
February 8, 2009 11:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is appalling. Hospitals should treat their patients and their loved ones regardless with dignity and respect, not make an already traumatic experience even moreso. What is the logic here that people used to justify this? Unbelievable.
February 9, 2009 12:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
"There's no world in which this is right?"
Maybe. But I can think of a lot of the world in which it is "Right."
February 9, 2009 12:51 AM | Reply | Permalink