Rowan Wolf gives US Perspective
My apologies for putting a blogger's name in the title, but I have to suggest people read her fantastic post. The writing conveys her experience so clearly and personally. It is a masterpiece. Then read the comments. I was amazed at how people related to her situation, supported her, and each other. It revealed how this place here, the TPM Cafe, is really something unique. This is a heartfelt place where people truly come together and meet on so many levels. This is a real community, a community like one this nation once had that is slowly evaporating right before our eyes.
Or maybe, that is my own imaginings of times past, told in stories of events selectively described. But we do all refer to a time past as having been of the greatest generation. So what was it about that generation we have all somehow come to agree was so great? If one listens to people, there are many suggestions. From the Right, it is because we fought in World War II, we were the reason the Axis Powers were defeated, and the US came out on top. From the Left, one might say we became great as we dug ourselves out of the Great Depression, where we relied on our government to provide work and income, channeling dollars into the pockets of the poor until they were able to support themselves again.
What both sides, (and I know there are many, many sides,) have in common, is that whether it was the Great Depression or the War, the change was brought about because we came together. We became a community with a common purpose and we let go of our petty differences to achieve a tremendous result. One might also propose that the GI Bill was a big part of our development. We educated our soldiers who had been provided a sense of self-discipline in the military and shared struggle from the Great Depression, who then entered the business world with an ethic that understood raising the least of their fellow men (and women) raised the nation. We all benefitted even if there was a sacrifice by some to do so. They became willing to sacrifice.
So, why is this related to Rowan's experience? One more piece to bring this together. We are engaged in a momentous battle for nothing less important then the soul of this country. I'm not going to bring religion into this, but I would appreciate some latitude in my discussion such that we might acknowlegde soul. We are in what I would consider an epic struggle with ourselves whether we will allow ourselves to dismiss our involvement with torture. It is unbelievable the propositions are being made to excuse this horrific practice. In the quest to expand "private enterprise" and dismantle government being waged by some, we have allowed a business to develop providing torture services. Where is the outrage for that simple, obvious creation? Where is the outrage that a security company is not providing defense, but offense in the name of private enterprises? These companies, offering these kinds of services, should not exist in a civilized society. Yet here they are.
People are parading their partisan loyalties to the detriment of their own humanity. Defenders of these deplorable deeds stand up and are given respect for their declarations they did no wrong, it was a national emergency, when it is now clear it was not, still they perpetuate thier defense.
It was on Rachel Maddow, a Janey-come-lately commentator, that the most critical piece of information has recently emerged. Cheney was pushing torture to create false intel to support a war we had no good reason to initiate. Info that never came. Info that people knew would never come. Why IS he a free man and why are we not demanding his arrest? We have been so deluded by the MSM, that the people who held this info decided to make their news on Rachel Maddow, not CNN, none of the Big Three, and of course, not Fox. For me, this is a sign of how far we have fallen, that our major networks are so distrusted, the newmakers avoid them.
Now we can relate all this to Rowan. She shares with us so eloquently her experience coming out of a drugged state, the result of mismanged prescriptions. She shares with us the flippant attitude of the providers, "Oh, we knew that might happen, we have a lot of other options though." Because the abyssmal results were so horrible was dismissed as it was not unexpected. But it is unacceptable! Our present situation related to torture is unacceptable!
There may come a day as a nation when we can lose the drugged trance we have been in as a people. I feel that TPM is a place where we have escaped the trance to see how things are and to acknowledge they are unacceptable. I hope the people of this nation can rise to the occassion and declare the same. Is this really something we should reduce to a partisan issue, some political gotcha game? The sooner Republicans admit that people in their party, leaders of their party, had abandoned any pretense of law and committed heinous acts, the sooner we will resume being human and we can recognize we are a community again. We can disagree, but we will see things clearly and that will feel so amazing. To know we share a commitment to a society that abhors torture, regardless of the situation, we will not torture, will surely open our hearts to each other. Oh, yes, that would be a moment near to ecstasy I believe, and right now, we are not managing our pain very well as a people.
Thank you Rowan. Your sharing your experience really opened up for me my desire for a feeling of freedom and clarity. I am not encouraged that our politicans from either party will do this for us, but I will say, "Yes we can." I want that!!!
















Um, Gregor? I, uh, hate to break this to you, luv, but Rowan is a woman. Any chance you can edit your post accordingly? It's a great post, but it's factually incorrect, hon.
May 15, 2009 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Done! I felt her account so personally, I never even realized "I" was a woman. Hehehe.
My apologies to the fine lady.
May 15, 2009 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
She understands, luv. It happens a lot.
May 15, 2009 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
No bruises on me here. If truth be known I am actually a shape changing wolf who reincarnated from a manatee, and sometimes masquerades as a human being of the female persuasion.
And ... oh my ... I think I have only been referred to as a lady about 5 times in my life, and NEVER as a fine lady. Heck, I don't even know how to curtsy, but I'll take a bow in the spirit intended.
May 15, 2009 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/rowanwolf/2009/05/insights-from-a-painful-journe.php
May 16, 2009 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good piece Gregor.
I too am very moved by Rowan's story. In fact she was once my professor and taught me much of what I know about society. She emphasized embracing that which ties us together and to always question the motives of the status quo and those who seek to divide us. Finding her this year here on TPM has been a pleasure as she continues to teach through her well argued and thoroughly researched postings. Reading her story now and the outpouring from fellow TPM'ers is bittersweet as it is both heart wrenching yet inspiring.
The comparison you make with the party hacks of the allegedly moral party clamoring about without any moral perspective is all the more illuminating. Although I confess I hope that they too regain their perspective and can once again see right and wrong. Have hope.
May 15, 2009 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, amazing! Thanks for sharing that.
I think, I maybe served Rowan a Latte once. In my checkered Cheeckan past, I was a barrista. This manatee came swimming up, and...well, she left me a GREAT tip! (just kidding)
=D
I am amazed, but not too amazed. You're thoughtfulness might well be the result of your learning experience with Rowan. That's, I dunno, kind of profound. I hope I learn to be so thoughtful.
May 15, 2009 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent perspective and message. Hats off to you and heartfelt prayer to Rowan.
As I told her, the posting was courageous and inspiring.
Thanks. Rec'd.
May 15, 2009 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was also moved by Rowan's piece. There was poetry in it as well as in many of the comments.
The struggle between sanity and the quest for some sort of relief.
Great post Gregor. Someone blogged about empathy. We all need some more of that.
May 15, 2009 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gregor:
You said: "The sooner Republicans admit that people in their party, leaders of their party, had abandoned any pretense of law and committed heinous acts, the sooner we will resume being human and we can recognize we are a community again. We can disagree, but we will see things clearly and that will feel so amazing...."
Imo, you have identified the heart (and soul) of the matter. As in literary criticism, there is the intention of the writer, and the response of the reader. So long as the "reader" can only respond to the revisionist intent of the writer, there can be no authentic experience or exchange.
As there can be no finding of "the angle of repose" that the builder and the homeowner both understand is necessary for a house to find its equilibrium.
The Republicans must acknowledge their intent to obfuscate, and the new Republicans must find an angle of respose with their fellow Americans, be they Democratic or Independent.
Last, but certainly not least, no one can be considered to be an adult who cannot acknowledge mistakes and, preferably, make an attempt to correct them.
Thank you, Gregor, for cutting to the chase.
May 15, 2009 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Our national soul has been in crisis for years. I've never seen such a deep division among peoples...but, at least I have more hope now than I did before last November that our soul will mend.
It did not occur to me, a deeper meaning of Rowan's post, but I'm glad somebody did.
May 15, 2009 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry for the incoherent last sentence. I'd like to blame age-related dementia on my computer but I can't. It's not that old. Nope, it was all operator error...couldn't unstick the filter key thingy. Had to reboot.
Anyway. I'm glad you made the connection between Rowans's post and our collective soul, GZap. Good post.
May 15, 2009 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gregor?
You rawk
May 15, 2009 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I went away to rest my head and came back to find this fine piece of work.
I must say that I could not get through it without crying. I then had to go walk around the yard, get some distance, and come back and read it again before I could even attempt a response.
I am touched beyond expression that what I shared, and what the community created - the synergy of that creative collaboration and exploration - inspired this work by Gregor. There is a truth and an honesty here that does indeed get to the soul of things as wwstaebler noted.
In the insanity that seems to rule the day, I frequently wonder "How in the world can people buy this ... malarkey? (had to search for a polite word). "How can people rally to the calls to the worst parts of our human "character", and how can cabals live with themselves for making those rallying calls?" I do not know. It makes no sense to me. And yet it does. I am a sociologist after all, and a long time "activist." I know too well how values are manipulated, partial truths told, disconnected pieces of information thrown, and unconnected bits of fact and fabrication woven together, can leave ... impressions. Foundations of misdirection upon which towers of deception, mortared together with fear and stimulated hate, and some bizarre contortion of "god's will" thrown in to bless the resulting edifice.
What I have yet to figure out is how to bring that tower of babble down. I fall into despair.
And then I am graced with the unexpected embrace of community. It gives me hope. It buoys me up. It affirms my self and my sanity.
I truly did not expect the creation and joining that came together in response to my post. That what happened there inspired Gregor to this poignant piece lifts me up. Thank you Gregor.
May 15, 2009 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rowan, the secret of my success with this post is called diversion. Your post struck me very deeply. I was emotional and I put that energy into a post. I have come to feel safe in this environment, so much so that I will let myself be seen here, in a vulnerable way, because I trust the good people here, the many, many good people here. I am truly honored by the comments that have been made here.
It was a gift to me from you to be able to enter a place where something of this nature can emerge. It felt really wonderful coming out onto the keys. It was a moment of clarity brought to me from you and I thank YOU. I am especially grateful to be able to put your name on the title. :-{)> It got people's attention and it seems they were rewarded for their time reading my characterization of where we are right now in this moment as a nation, but more importantly as a people.
May 16, 2009 1:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
She shares with us so eloquently her experience coming out of a drugged state, the result of mismanaged prescriptions. She shares with us the flippant attitude of the providers, "Oh, we knew that might happen..."
Good analogy, GZ. Without the context, it's hard to tell whether we're talking about Rowan's Doctors or Republicans, the providers of torture here.
René Déscartes walked into a bar. The bartender inquired, What'll you have, a beer? René said, I think not. And, poof, he disappeared.
Good blog, GZ!
May 16, 2009 1:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
May 16, 2009 1:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Je pense, therefore I'm broke.
(We're broken but fixable with help from friends)
Thanks Zap. You have good soul for sure.
May 16, 2009 5:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Reading Gregor's blog, reading through the comments, what a heartening experience. How true and how amazing it is that honesty and heartfelt writing bring us all closer and allows us to think more clearly - about everything. It really confirms my point that I've made over and over. That this needs to be a safe place. That feeling safe to speak is the first step in building community. In that sense, it's not surprising that freedom of speech is the First Amendment in the Bill of Rights. But I never thought about it till just now.
And that Gregor has written this beautiful blog, that is both personal and political. It shows how the political IS personal. How friendships are important to talking politics.
What a beautiful, beautiful blog, Gregor Z. I commend you. And it couldn't have happened without Rowan's post and the safety and respect and caring that formed around that post.
Soul. It's a good word!
I recall how months ago some of us were ridiculed for having friendships and fun here at the Cafe. As if talking politics should be a soulless enterprise.
Yes, we are searching to revive the heart and soul of America. And it has to start in small pockets, like the Cafe. It needs to start from the grassroots, from real people, willing to be themselves, willing to take the risk of opening up. But in order to do that, people need to see that others have done so - and been respected and appreciated for it.
It confirms once again for me that Erikson's theory works on both the individual level and the social level. That the personal and the communal are one and the same - require each other, build from each other.
A warm heartfelt embrace to all of you.
May 16, 2009 5:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you so much, Thera.
It is just good to be seen.
It is just good to be.
It is just good too.
It is just good.
It is just.
It is.
It.
I.
When we are reduced to knowing ourselves and letting ourselves be seen, it is all good.
GZ :-{)>
May 18, 2009 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to say one more thing. This is a stunning sentence, Gregor. And it should be shouted from the rooftops!
May 16, 2009 5:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have one suggestion, Gregor. For anyone who might be new to the Cafe and missed Rowen's blog, and might not know that they could find that blog by clicking her name in this thread, you might put a link into the post itself. I'd highlight the words "her fantastic post" - and then click the "link" icon and paste in the url for that specific blog. That way your post directly allows any new reader to get more of the gist. Because this is a a very, very important blog and her post is not to be missed, since it clues the reader, especially the new reader to the Cafe, into what's going on.
Because what you speak of, and what this blog addresses, may have an impact on some people who are reading this - people who might dare to speak if they knew it would be safe to do so.
May 16, 2009 5:26 AM | Reply | Permalink