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Talking Points: Healthcare


ConnecticutMan1 has a terrific blog about the pending changes to our national healthcare.

You can find it here:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/connecticut_man1/2009/01/an-economically-created-health.php

Being on the Left Coast and a night owl, it seems that my contributions at night go unnoticed due to the time differences.  I'm probably on my second paragraph while a lot of you are on your second REM.  [  It could be because I'm as poor a typist as I am an impatient editor of my posts, also. :-{)>  ]  At any rate, I was replying to CM1's post when I thought I would just get something going for the rest of you to consider, probably while I am in my last REMs tomorrow morning. 

This is Talking Points Memo and we should create our own talking points to repeat feverishly as the Right has done these past eight years.  When all is said and done poltics is a war of propaganda.  It irritates me that the Left has not responded to what the Right has done so successfully, until this last year when no amount of music could overshadow the stink that was the Bush Administration.  I mean, I thought we were the smart ones? 

 

Now is our chance.  As I replied to CM1, I believe the nation has an open mind at this moment.  Or at least there are more open minds now then there were for two years after 9/11.  Some minds have not opened and we know who they are.  Let's get into those open minds.  Comment with your own suggestions for what could go on a bumpersticker to support the need to provide healthcare more effectively and efficiently.  It needs to be obvious to the reader what we mean.  We can explain it all later, but we need their attention and something for them to interject when their conversations goes to healthcare.

Here's are some of mine: 

Private healthcare, their bottom line is NOT about my health.

Or, Healthcare should remove a tumor, not your savings.

Or, I want to see My Doctor, not Their Attorney.

Or, Why does Business tell Doctors what is Best?

Have at it!!!


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Good idea. I'm no good at coming up with catchy phrases, so I'll leave that to you. But I do have an anecdote. A few months ago, my insurance company wouldn't cover a prescription that the doctor wrote for me. I called to find out why. They wanted me to try another medication first that wasn't used for exactly what the doctor was trying to treat. When I objected, the insurance company employee actually said to me, "Well, people are having a hard time putting gas in their car and food on the table. We just want to save you money." I laughed out loud. For a long time. She didn't like me too much after that.

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I actually think anecdotes like that may be the best marketing campaign for health care. Like Sicko, but without Michael Moore to deflect the truth off of. That, and specific information that can be provided to people to explain exactly how the health care changes would help them.

I think if there was a TV and viral campaign to tell the stories of the woeful health care in this country, it would get people thinking about it more, and quite possibly get the media to actually talk about an important issue. To build on that, I think if Obama used a similar organizing structure to that of his campaign, to sort of Get Out the Health Care as opposed to GOTV, with people canvassing and calling people, to go over specifically how it would help them and what the costs would be, as well as what they can do to help get the legislation passed...

Maybe develop a website where people could come in, enter their current insurance situation, and get results as to how specifically, the health care plan would help them.

Throw in a couple health care rallies and marches, ramp up media attention, pressure on the legislators....

Who knows? We might actually get something done.

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That is an excellent idea. But I'm also seeking to reach people unlike you and I who are not on the web.

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Talk about manipulation by nonsensical guilt-tripping! Thanks for that anecdote, Orlando.

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These are the kinds of stories that do need to be told. They epitomize the problem of private for-profit plans.

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Save WHO money?

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exactly...

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I'm probably on my second paragraph while a lot of you are on your second REM.

I did just finish my nap but two hours, come on! I never miss your stuff Gregor!!!! hahahhahaha
I am having delay problems with pc. I just cleaned temp files..same as yesterday at this time.

use the web, many bigger sites, and it might show up on cable or radio.

I liked CM's and I told him: profits on spread sheets should not trump the health of a country

my shorter take anyway

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TV Ad: A person is hit by a car and layin gin the street. Someone runs over, checks their pulse and cries out, "Somebody, quick, call the insurance company!"

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I still think "Death by Spreadsheet" is one of the best slogans I have seen on any page, so far. Just those words with "Health Care Reform NOW!" would fit on a bumper sticker.

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The other nice thing about nyceve's slogan? ("Death by Spreadsheet")

Someone sees it driving down the road and wonders what the frick it is about. Types "Death by Spreadsheet" into the Google and finds this. Hundreds of posts and sites on single payer health care. A ready built slogan with a campaign already in progress...

Not that there can't be other campaigns.

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Good to know about that! Thanks!

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Greg Sargent blogged on his new wapo blog about an independent group that is going to launch ad campaigns targetting gop senators. It seems to me that would be a very direct way to frame the arguments for our side. I'm thinking of donating once I recover financially from the elections.

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Now... That is a useful nugget of info. I just wish they had been more specific about the issues they were going to target them with.

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I think there's a line supporting single payer in the new Harper's - "Everybody in, nobody out" - or something like that. Not perfect, but not bad. (Sorry if someone's already mentioned this, have been away for a few days.)

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Rep. Conyers put out a press release on it. I am going to look for the mag next time I am at the store.

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Inspired by this: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/tmcpac/2009/01/how-many-people-do-you-know-th.php

I sent this into my local newspaper --

I have a suggestion that would provide an enormous stimulus to our economy. It would do more than any other proposal I have heard to get our economy moving because it doesn’t depend on anyone getting a wad of cash rushing out to spend it in a particular way (which didn’t work last time), nor would it reward companies with bad ideas and absurd spending habits. It would encourage innovation, and the kind of creative risk-taking that would get our country going again.

This is it: Single Payer, Universal Health Care, unrelated to one’s employment.

How many people have an innovative idea, or a genuine talent that they would love to package and sell, except they can’t take the risk to develop it because they would lose their employer-provided health insurance? How many people have something to offer towards energy conservation that could be turned into a small business – except for the daunting task of insuring people? If you disagree, consider this:

Many people seem to believe that reducing taxes on the very wealthiest will “trickle down” to everyone else by increasing job creation, and boosting investment in the workplace. That is not borne out by an objective look at the last several decades. True, in the early 20th century when railroad, steel, automotive, and airline industries were just beginning, those wealthy entrepreneurs did invest in the infrastructure needed to get their industries going, and jobs came along with them. That is what created the Middle Class. Those days are gone. The middle class is threatened.

This recent batch of multi-millionaires does not share the history of building industries. They are business school graduates who may or may not have ever even held a job in the industry they are now running. Their companies’ proftits often go to pay for mergers with other companies with the goal of downsizing to make the industry leaner, but with the result of many thousands of people losing jobs, rather than creating new ones. They also seem to have a hard time resisting the urge of out-sourcing, because it is so much cheaper (so why are their companies still failing? Because these “managers” don’t understand the very industries they are ‘running.’) Exceptions are those such as Bill Gates and T Boone Pickens, who either created their industries, or rose up through them, and know what makes them work. (Even Microsoft is laying people off, however)

What do these MBA’s do with their million-dollar bonuses? They do not personally re-invest in their companies; they buy toys such as expensive cars and jewelry, airplanes, vacations, and multiple houses. They use their companies’ dwindling resources to fund ostentatious events as they lay off more workers and ask for government money.

The only “trickling down” seems to be the sludge of despair of the many who are left out.

I believe it is time to allow creative, independent, and innovative people to rise to the top again, and an essential underpinning of that is to take away the crippling effect of our current health care system. It is time to let “Family Farms” provide local produce, which they can only do now if one of the family works somewhere else for insurance benefits.

Who can argue with this: Every dollar spent on health care should go to health care -- not to advertising, not wasteful bureaucratic paper-chasing, and not for profits to companies who provide absolutely no service whatsoever, and function only as gatekeepers. But argue they will – they attempt to scare people with loaded phrases such as “socialized medicine,” but the same fear is never mentioned regarding our “socialized fire departments, school systems, or police departments.” Those seem to be working pretty well. Does anyone want to pay a company that will decide if we are entitled to a fire engine to come to a burning house?

The best investment we can make as a country is Single Payer, Universal Health Care, with reasonable premiums, co-pays, and oversight (the latter with the goal of providing appropriate treatment to those who can benefit from it – not with the goal of making a profit).

To those who say we can’t afford to do it, I say we cannot afford not to!

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Good piece CVD. Congrats. I hope more people pick this up.

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Yes. SPUHC. Good piece like Q says.

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I hope they print it.

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Insurance is an industry that employs tens of thousands of people. I disgaree with its privitization. Once upon a time it was all mutual insurance. I think insurance can remain private but should all be mutual insurance companies. These organisms kept their profits each year, and what monies were not needed to cover their risks were returned to the policyhoders. It was their success that led to private interests demanding they get their hands in it. Now we can't get it back!

PS - This is why Farmers and State Farm have the names they do. Farmers united to insure other farmers. They not only protected themselves from bad weather and tragedies, they amassed great wealth which attracted the parasites. Now they are losing their farms to corporate parasites making decisions from ivory towers that serve no one but the members of that tower. All others serve them.

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Heads up here . . .

Some of you may have already seen the booklet "Death by Spreadsheet" provided for free download at Healthcare-NOW.org. If not, there is a link at my TPM blog.

Let's really try and get this issue to go viral.

If We the People push the President, the President will respond!

~OGD~

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The booklet was part of a larger effort to get the info out. The more people that read it the more will get it. Thanks for throwing that out here.

I am still a little woozy from the piles joke, though. lol jk

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Oh... and one more thing . . .

Warning Warning Warning . . .

For the faint of heart, or those without a sense of humor, beware.


Tasteless humor ahead...


I'm not lying . . .


Here it come . . .



My Health Coverage Should Cure My Piles -- Not Enflame Them


I know... I know... Bad duck!

~OGD~
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I love a "working blog" - where we all get involved in trying to move something forward. So here's an added piece of info:

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/10/20/china-aims-for-universal-health-care/

Yes, China is now moving universal health care forward. Are we gonna be left behind? Come on! If China can do it, we can do it!

Nothing like a little competition to get American blood flowing!

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It would be extremely embarrassing for the USA, given us always wagging our finger at China for human rights abuses, if they managed to deliver what should be a protected and basic civil right to all of their citizens before we do.

Just my thoughts on that.

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You've put your finger on my point exactly! If some won't do it because it's the right thing to do, they may at the very least be induced to do it out of a sense of not wanting to be shamed by China!

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