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"Obama's blueprint"


"Obama's blueprint", as the NYT calls the baucus plan,  is a plan to shift the cost of medical insurance from the government and corporations to individuals. Covering (at their own expense) two-thirds of those who lack insurance is secondary and even incidental. What we will have with this proposal is a *free-market* basket of choices from which individuals choose the coverage they can afford, but with no guarantee that they will be covered in the case of some unforeseen catastrophe. This is not compromise. This is a republican wet-dream-come-true bill. 

And as a senior citizen with a limited fixed income, I am extremely concerned about the Medicare cuts Obama has instituted. The cuts may save the government money, but will either shift the cost to me, or degrade the care I get. I have heard nothing to assure me that what we, young or old, get will be an improvement over what we have now. On the contrary, I believe what we get from this so-called reform will significantly lower the quality of care for most of us in this country.

I supported Obama like I have never supported another candidate in my almost 50 years of voting. I am disheartened and angry to find that I have elected a republican wrapped in democratic party platitudes. I never thought I would see a day when I agreed with the recent conservative demonstrators, but that day is here. To this government I say - Keep your hands off my health insurance!


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"And as a senior citizen with a limited fixed income, I am extremely concerned about the Medicare cuts Obama has instituted."

This quote from your essay troubles me. I'm on Medicare and have not received notification of the cuts that have been instituted. Could you provide a source?

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Here are a couple of links, jonnie:

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/personal_finance/090909_medicare_private_plan_cuts.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32225671/ns/politics-capitol_hill/

Any reduction in reimbursements to hospitals and doctors will reduce our choices I feel sure. Some doctors already refuse to treat Medicare patients as you probably know. Reduce payments and there ranks will grow. Hospitals are already short staffed so I don't believe cutting reimbursements to them is going to improve care for us oldsters.

P.S. perhaps I should have said proposed reductions instead of instituted reductions. I thought Obama had already reduced reimbursements, but perhaps not. Frankly, the whole movement is in such a mess I doubt anyone knows what's going on.

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ahem - their ranks

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The article you reference states only:

'.....providing a detailed look at a legislative proposal that meets many of the requirements that President Obama laid out in his address to Congress last week.'

There is no proffer that Obama's mandate is in tandem with any of your assertions. Do you have valid cites that provide a credible foundation that President Obama is indeed touting and endorsing these issues be included in the HCR legislation?

Thanks.

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I'm not sure what you're asking, Aunt Sam. Could you explain what you mean by Obama's mandate? The only mandate I remember is his *mandate for change*.

The OFA site clearly lays out his goals and I don't see anything there that contradicts what I believe. If you're talking about the Medicare portion of my post, then you can google and get all kinds of hits. He's been talking about reining in Medicare since before he took office.

Anyone who thinks there will be a public plan anything like what progressives are counting on is fooling him/herself. Anything less than a robust public plan is feeding the insurance companies. My assertions above are logical conclusions, IMO, of what the result of mandates to purchase insurance from private insurance companies will lead to in the not so long run.

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Thanks for response.

The changes in medicare have to do with the monies being wasted due to abuse and poor oversight. I have read extensively on this topic and have no reason to be alarmed that medicare will be diminished.

As far as 'logical conclusions' - IMHO these are assumptions, not factual truths mandated by President Obama.

The bottom line is that until there is actual proposed legislation (bill) that is sanctioned by Presicent Obama, everything else is conjecture.

I'm especially disturbed by the last two sentences in your post if you are, based upon projected assumptions and conjecture as of this date, basing your 'jumping the shark' and giving credence to those whose goal is only to spread the negativity with lies and distortions.

In your referenced links I don't see any that are directly sourced from WH or the many other links that are not MSM but actual credible HCR resources established by Dean, Obama and many others.

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Since you have read extensively on the Medicare issue, would you provide some links to articles that reassure you? I am truly not happy with what I have heard.

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Start here: http://my.barackobama.com/SupportReform

There should be links to others, but if not, go to Howard Dean's site and if you need more, I will get them to you.

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Sorry, but this doesn't comfort me. I guess one of the problems I have with Obama is that I don't really trust him to carry through with his big ideas. All these statements are broad assertions and would fit the baucus plan as well as any number of other proposals.

Obama's proposals are constantly shifting to suit the political winds. He sends up a trial balloon and then denies what was said. They've just taken the the public plan off the OFA, for instance, but someone says it's not off the table. There's no way to know how much he is willing to compromise to get his name associated with reform.

Here's a link about one of his proposals for medicare. I repeat what I said before, if you start cutting payments to doctors and hospitals, the end result will be rationed care. That's not comforting.

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Did you check out the links in this bloomberg article? When I attempt to link the Administration's Plain I get Error, no such page.

If you are utilizing MSM and entities like Bloomberg for the facts, you will only get skewed data. Selective, out of context and biased.

Your statement, '...I don't really trust Obama...' is in itself revealing.

We have to remember that although he is POTUS, it is the Congressional bodies who create and either pass or fail legislation. I do not know what state you are in, but.........

I suggest you contact your state's Democratic and/or Obama offices for a complete up to date, factual copy of current specifics regarding Obama's stance on medicare.

Also, Howard Deam's site as well has good factual data that is usually updated.

If it's any solace, it is currently being reported that Baucus's proposed bill is not getting support from either side. Today CNN is finally reporting on the $3.9 million Baucus has received from Insurance and related healthcare entities over past 3-4 years. He is not a friend of true HCR.

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I live in a town of 8500 people. We have one hospital. Recently they were being "investigated" for overbilling Medicare by about 27 mil. I don't know the time period involved. But it's obvious that there are a lot of "mistakes" in the system. How much could be saved in a year's time is anybody's guess.

I've been told that patients can reap a reward for spotting overcharges on their Medicare bills. Can anyone verify?

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Hey Dog. I just listened to the interview with Dennis Kucinich that's posted on the board and he had some really good comments to make that I think relate to your post. To wit:

This is either government of the people, for the people, and by the people, or it’s government of the corporations. This is one of those moments when we’re going to have to make that decision. We may not make the appropriate decision this time. I believe there will come a day when healthcare will be viewed as a civil right. When it is there will be a mass movement that will force Washington to respond to the will of the people in much the way that it did in the civil rights, and women’s rights movements.


If the plan at best is just a subsidy for the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. I think all of us have to take a long and careful look at that to decide if that is appropriate and whether we’re just further locking in those entrenched interests. This goes beyond who the president is. This really relates to what kind of life people are having , what kind of quality of life what kind of economic existence do people have if they’re paying more money for healthcare or if they can’t afford healthcare, or they can’t afford their doctor bills. There are some deeper questions here than just the politics. And frankly even though I’m in politics I refuse to look at this in strictly political terms. This about a life and death matter for tens of millions of Americans who are struggling to make ends meet, or can’t afford to take care of their families, and we’re finding out Insurance companies have them over a barrel every step of the way.

We have to decide whether healthcare is a right or a privilege. If it’s a right, then everybody should be covered, and the government should push for it. If it’s a privilege, then hold your hats because if you don’t have enough money you’re going to be out of luck.

We’ve seen the debate in America run by insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies. Our choices have to be larger than the one’s we’re getting. Our options have to be bigger than the one’s we’re getting. This is not a time for minimalism and saying this is the best the system can do. This just really tells us what America is about. Whether we really have a democracy or whether we have a corporate oligarchy that dictates decisions under the guise that it’s doing the best it can.

We’re at a moment of a litmus test for our nation and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. We need to move to a broader reform of a single payer system and whether healthcare is a right or a privilege. When democrats were given this broad mandate by the people in 2008, if the best we can do is some warmed over version of a public option, or no public option, or a public option with a trigger, or cooperatives then if that’s the best we can do the American people have ever right to ask whether their confidence was misplaced.

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Thanks for the excerpt, miguelito. Kucinich understands - This just really tells us what America is about. Whether we really have a democracy or whether we have a corporate oligarchy that dictates decisions... - But I believe we already know the answer to that question.

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