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		    <title>☠enghis Commented on Persecution Politics: Christian Leaders Sign Historic-Futuristic Declaration by ☠enghis</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-22T07:31:23Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I wouldn't turn down your help; I've got a gargantuan task ahead of me. If you're seriously interested in helping, contact me at dagblog: <a href="http://dagblog.com/user/3/contact">http://dagblog.com/user/3/contact</a></p>]]>
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		    <title>☠enghis Commented on Persecution Politics: Christian Leaders Sign Historic-Futuristic Declaration by ☠enghis</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-21T23:14:48Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I'm glad that you like it. I'm hoping to write a book on it. Schaeffer will definitely play a part. Have you read <i>Rebublican Gomorrah</i>? Blumenthal devotes a chapter or two to Schaeffer.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>No time. They have babies to save, marriage traditions to protect, and declarations to sign.</p>]]>
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		    <title>☠enghis Commented on Persecution Politics: Christian Leaders Sign Historic-Futuristic Declaration by ☠enghis</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<blockquote>Thanks for the heads-up on this, Ghengis. The final insult is claiming to do it under the banner of MLK.</blockquote>

<p>One of the ways that today's paranoid right differs from previous right-wing movements is in its appropriation of civil rights language, which is why I call my series "Persecution Politics." For instance, Jerry Falwell once said, "Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians." Pat Buchanan called Macy's "Seasons Greetings" holiday messages "hate crimes against Christianity." And of course, there are all the complaints of "reverse discrimination." Thus, the appropriation of MLK is a natural extension of the paranoid world view.</p>]]>
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	<title><![CDATA[☠enghis recommended Democrats set to adopt Republican &quot;Always vote against Democrats&quot; strategy by William K. Wolfrum]]></title>
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		    <title>☠enghis Commented on Persecution Politics: The Sarah Palining of Lou Dobbs  by ☠enghis</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-13T03:29:36Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"Bork" was a much better candidate for verbification; "Palining" is too awkward and doesn't sound like an amusing combination of "porking" or "boinking."</p>]]>
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	<title>☠enghis recommended THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND  by miguelitoh2o</title>
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		    <title>☠enghis Commented on Health Insurance - The Cheap Rider Problem by ☠enghis</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Fred. Perhaps I don't understand the 70 percent actuarial value requirement. I thought that concerned out-of-pocket payments by members, which squares with your statement that the only difference between the basic plans (70%) and the premium plans (85% - 93%) is the subscriber cost sharing. So how does the actuarial value requirement force an insurer to cover needed treatments? To use a specific example, suppose that a cheap generic drug is by most standards inferior to an expensive brand drug, but the insurer cites an outlier study that concludes they are equivalent, and refuses to pay for the brand drug. Or worse, suppose that an insurer refuses a particular treatment altogether on the grounds that the effectiveness is not "proven."</p>

<p>With reference to the "race to the bottom," benefit equivalence between basic and premium plans eases my mind somewhat, but I'm still concerned that the incentives are backwards. You write:</p>

<blockquote>Ultimately, consumers would need to compare insurance plans for value and feedback from subscribers, and the proposed Exchange would do this.</blockquote>

<p>But the healthy cheap riders don't care much about quality of service. They just want a low premium and won't worry about quality of service until they get sick. Thus, companies with cheap premiums and poor service could actually make higher profits than companies with higher premiums and better service because healthy consumers buy the cheap plans and sick consumers buy the quality plans. So what's the incentive to provide quality service and go beyond the letter of the legal regulation? This is the core of my concern.<br />
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		    <title>☠enghis Commented on Health Insurance - The Cheap Rider Problem by ☠enghis</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<blockquote>This is excellent news... for me!</blockquote>

<p>Exactly, you should be gloating and preening like a pro-wrestler.</p>

<p>I don't claim to know Obama's rationale, but isn't mandatory coverage a win-win-win-win?</p>

<p>Dumbasses who don't want to buy insurance don't suffer for their folly. Hospitals don't have to have to provide free emergency care. Insurance payers don't have higher premiums because of free riders. And opposition from insurers has been less intense because of the expanded market, which is probably helping passage of the bill.</p>]]>
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		    <title>☠enghis Commented on Health Insurance - The Cheap Rider Problem by ☠enghis</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>As I recall, it was your champion, Hillary Clinton, who pushed universal coverage. Obama wanted to keep it optional. So now it's universal, and you're disappointed?</p>

<p>I agree that it's hard to measure the impact, but the free rider problem is basic game theory and affects almost any social institution. Think about all the workers who benefit from unions but don't pay dues. Free riders.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I wasn't suggesting that nothing be done. Just raising a flag of unease.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Yeah, people thought the same thing after the Clinton plan want down 15 years ago. How long do you expect us to wait for "the entire system to go down in total failure?" How many people will have to die before that happens?</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>It's fair to question the assumption of a free rider problem, but you can't rely on current data to demonstrate that a future health care plan that allows anyone to take insurance won't have a lot of free riders. There isn't a substantial free rider problem now because you can't get uncompensated care except in life threatening situations.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>That's possible, but regulation works better as a correction to excess than as an incentive. If insurance companies don't want any members who actually use their services, they may design their services to be as unusable as possible -- following the letter of regulation but making cuts whenever possible. That's already happening, as you note, but cheap riders could make the problem worse because they won't consider the quality of care when choosing a plan, so companies who like the healthy cheap riders have no incentive other than gov't regulation to provide quality service.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Interesting post + rant.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the details, Fred. Will the government specify "essential medical benefits" in detail? Obviously, hospital visits and standard tests will be covered, but what about less common / more expensive tests, procedures and medications. That is to say, will insurance companies be forced to cover specific tests and treatments? If not, what's to stop them from refusing to cover those tests and treatments?</p>

<blockquote>Although a public option, if it exists, will be required to offer all three tiers of plans, private insurers may choose not to, but none may decline to offer the basic plan covering all services at an actuarial value of 70 percent. They must therefore compete on the basis of the premiums they charge and the details of how they arrive at that 70 percent figure.</blockquote>

<p>The point that I was making in the article is that if healthy people enroll in basic plans until they get sick and then switch to the premium plans, the basic plans will be money earners (because most members will be healthy), and the premium plans will be money losers (because most members will be sick). That seems like a recipe for a race to the bottom, where companies offer only the basic plans and cut corners every where they can to offer the lowest premiums and attract healthy customers. Healthy customers won't care about the cut corners b/c they can always get a better plan if they need one--unless no one offers a better plan. Do you know of anything in HR3962 that will prevent this outcome?</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Scammers are extreme examples, but like all people, doctors are not immune to financial incentives. Consider this <a href="http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst;jsessionid=K7GVpXmQxCv1vvs8Tn4qH8K46XkbdgHJ3xvLklZp9GNybqZfL0hs!-391958230!-1366559283?docId=97812447">study</a>:</p>

<blockquote>The "induced-demand" model states that in the face of negative income shocks, phy-
sicians may exploit their agency relationship with patients by providing excessive care.
We test this model using an exogenous change in the financial environment facing
obstetrician/gynecologists: declining fertility in the United States. We argue that the
13.5% fall in fertility over the 1970-1982 period led ob/gyns to substitute from normal
childbirth toward a more highly reimbursed alternative, cesarean delivery. Using a
nationally representative microdata set for this period, we show that there is a strong
correlation between within-state declines in fertility and within-state increases in cesar-
ean utilization.</blockquote>

<p>In addition, there are tests that a conscientious doctor might recommend to cover all bases but which cost too much to justify doing all the time. Any headache could turn out to be brain tumor, but as a society, we can't afford to give anyone with a serious headache an MRI. Limiting expensive medical tests and treatments with low probabilities of success offers one way to reduce overall health care costs.</p>

<p>Obviously, there is a question of finding the right balance, and I wrote this piece out of concern that we will go too far the other way, but I just wanted to point out that there is some advantage to financial limits on treatment.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I assume that the fines will go into the big Fed barrel (or maybe the smaller state barrels) so that Congress can play accounting games with it.</p>

<p>The 2.5% tax does seem a bit low. Let's see. As a freelancer, I was able to find cheap plans for under $1000 per year, which is equivalent 2.5% of $40K. I'm not sure at what income level the subsidies kick in, but it seems like you might as well go with a cheap plan.</p>

<p>(Note: I moved to Philly from NYC. In New York, the cheapest plans were around $2500 per year, which would be equivalent to 2.5% of $100K. Big difference. In that case, it could pay to take the tax hit if you make less than $100K.)<br />
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