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Why Bankers Make So Much Money


When I worked for a software company, a fellow computer programmer once lamented that the salespeople earned so much more than the coders, despite the fact that the coders were generally better educated, more intelligent, and more essential to the company's core value: its products. The reason for the disparity is straightforward. Salespeople are closer to the money. It is very difficult for executives to perceive the value good programmers, who represent cogs somewhere deep in the machine, but the value of good salespeople is obvious from their sales numbers. For instance, it is easy to justify paying $200,000 in salary and bonus to a salesperson who makes sales worth $500,000 in annual profits.

My colleague's dismay exhibited the wide gap between "merit value" and "market value." Merit value is an amorphous sense of the worth of an employee based on capability, education, seniority, and hard work. Market value is the perceived monetary worth of an employee. Our economy is primarily based on market value. Insofar, as we reward merit value, it is because of cultural reasons and a loose, indirect relationship between merit value and market value: people generally perceive monetary value in the meritorious qualities of capability, education, seniority, and hard work. Yet while this indirect relationship may hold true within a particular field, it varies widely between fields. Thus, the most capable coders are likely be the top paid programmers, but they are unlikely to be paid as well as the most capable salespeople.

The principle of market value infuses even those industries that we might like to think of as merit-based. Book publishers, for instance, pay the highest advances to the authors they believe will most likely generate the highest sales, which is why prominent writers of trashy romances and conservative screeds can get high advances, while brilliant academic historians rarely receive any. Even within the academy, tenure for the sciences is primarily awarded to the professors who can capture the most grant money.

Which brings us to bankers. Many investment bankers are intelligent, hard-working, and capable, but like any other employee, those qualities are only indirectly tied to their compensation packages. Bankers make the big bucks because they are extremely close to a lot of money. When an employee conducts transactions worth tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars, then small differences in ability can make a difference of millions of dollars for the employer in a very obvious way. For that reason, it is an easy decision for banking executives to pay massive salaries and bonuses for the top talent. Such monetary considerations travel all the way up to the CEOs, who are perceived to make the largest difference to a bank's profitability.

Of course, the cronyism and short-term thinking prevalent in banking is certainly a related problem, but it is a market value problem of mistaken perception, not a merit value problem. Yet what seems to drive the rage of the anti-Wall Street crowd is not market inefficiency but the myth of merit value: bankers getting compensated far more than they deserve for their work. But our system is based on market value, and while this system is not ideal, we have not been able to invent a better one. The only known alternative to market value is some kind of human judgment of merit. Such judgment inevitably devolves into political bias, which is even less related to merit than market value. From nation-sized communist systems to department-sized bureaucracies, human judgments too often result in higher pay for the most loyal and sycophantic employees, not the most capable.

Because our system relies on market value, the government's current plan to cap executive salaries at companies that received bailouts will do nothing to address income disparities between the rich and poor. It will not affect banks that did not receive bailouts or all the other industries, from law to medicine to Hollywood to all manner of business, where compensation of certain employees towers above that of everyone else in the country. And within a year or two, the government's bailout leverage will dwindle, and it will be back to business as usual among the bankers as well.

Though it may seem like a paradox, if we really want to address income disparity, we need to be honest with ourselves and firmly reject the myth of merit value. That is because as much as merit value appeals to capitalism's critics, the myth of merit value is even more prevalent among the pro-market anti-tax crowd. Conservatives tend to fiercely oppose taxes on the grounds that rich moneymakers deserve their wealth due to their capabilities and work ethics. If we abandon the notion that people deserve all the money that they earn and are instead simply beneficiaries of somewhat arbitrary market forces, then implementing higher taxes on top income brackets will be less controversial. The rich people who are most open to high taxes tend to treat their wealth as a kind of lucky windfall rather than a well-deserved fortune. We need to encourage this attitude towards wealth and stop pretending that financial compensation must be something that it cannot be.

Or for a more cynical take, see Willam K. Wolfrum's How to be a "Swashbuckling Captain of Capitalism" by Patrick Byrne.

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That's a lucid argument, ☠enghis. And a realistic one.

Progressive taxation will go a long way toward reducing income disparity, especially if we invest the tax proceeds in infrastructure, education, health care, research and development.

I think we also need to re-examine our notions of corporate personhood and the role of the corporation in our economy and our society. Unfortunately, the U.S. Supreme Court appears poised to make things worse in this regard.

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Thanks, and I agree with the rest of your comment. My post is a big-picture analysis of the basic functions of the system, but given the premise of market value, there is certainly much that we can do to limit corruption and keep the market from behaving too erratically.

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It's interesting you bring this up. When litigants dispute the value of business in court (in bankruptcy, or during shareholder appraisal actions after a tender offer), there's a big dichotomy between "fair market value" and "fair value."

The courts recognize that the "real" value of an asset is not necessarily what price it would bring on the market. The market, after all, is subject to vagaries and speculation and, at times, imperfect information. You will find that judges disagree as to how close a "market value" comes to establishing the "fair value" of, e.g., stock in a nonpublic company.

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Interesting. How is the fair value determined? Is it based on some kind of qualitative judgment, or is it an interpolation from market value over time that discounts temporary spikes?

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Basically, a judge will tweak market-based valuations to reflect what she believes to be a better instrinsic value, given the perspective of the parties. If a judge knows, for example, that cash flow numbers are probably inflated -- giving a temporary high stock price -- the judge will adjust the "fair" value of the stock downwards, especially if the case involves long-term shareholders (who aren't going to be taking advantage of any short swing profits). On the other hand, if cash flows are zilch, but the company has a lot of potential, a court will adjust the price upwards. Similarly, if the company's probalby going to go bust, the court will assign a value that will equal the liquidation value of its assets -- a number usually a lot less than the value of a going concern.

statutes often leave the definition of "fair value" purposefully vague--so judges can makes these judgment calls. courts know, and admit regularly, that "value" is in the eye of the beholder. And they build mathematical models for each perspective. I just find it amusing that the same folks who perfect these various valuation techniques forget about its subjectivity when it comes to justifying their paychecks!!!

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Thanks. So it seems like it's still market value, but with human judgment applied to find the "true" market value.

PS I think you'd find that people are quite diligent when it comes to applying creative valuation techniques to justify their salaries.

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It is said that the best way to rod a bank is to own one.


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Correction: It is said that the best way to rob a bank is to own one.

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I was a bank rodder in my youth. Didn't pay the bills and ultimately seemed rather pointless.

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Yeah, when I see someone say "but I am smarter and know more than that guy, it's not right," first thing I think is that--while it might be true that it's not "fair"--the speaker is probably not that smart. :-) If you were really "smart," I think, you might be able to see that making a lot more money requires doing things and being things you might not want to do or be and those things often don't have a lot to do with being "smart," they often have to do with other skills.

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True, it takes a certain passion for money to be a banker.

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"Lucid" was an apt description. At any rate, I shall leave my condensed philosophy here as a sort of a counterpoint:

All jobs worth doing is worth exactly the same.

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Poor copyediting...I get what I pay for!

All jobs worth doing are worth exactly the same...

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I hereby render unto Karl the Marxist the Knightly Line of the Day Award for this here TPMCafe Site, given to all of you from all of me.

Grammatically correct or not. hahahaha

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Thanks, Karl. I'm a big fan, but I think that you need to modernize your doctrine.

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Well, we did get rid of the whole "revolution" thing. This maxim (pun intended) is still relevant, I think.

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The way to make a lot of money is to find a very large stream of money flowing by and then divert a very small percentage into your own pockets.

This is possible because of the irrational fondness of financial business people for pricing or setting compensation in terms of a percentage of some value. For example, fees for merger and acquisition work are set as a percentage of the price of the acquisition. The percentage will be close to some customary and usual value independent of the complexity and riskiness of the deal.

Banks are so fond of percentage pricing that they even do percentage deals with suppliers, although, for example, a transaction may cost the same to process whether it is for $1000 or $100,000. They even strike such deals with banking software vendors, where the license fees depend on the value of the business processed by the software.

Of course, bankers aren't the only irrational business people. Sales folk flogging servers and networking gear are also paid on volume based commissions, and those lucky enough to get a large customer who buys freely are able to live large.

Another example of irrational percentage compensation is real estate commisions. Is selling a $800,000 house twice as hard as selling a $400,000 house? I doubt it.

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There are benefits to percentage-based bonuses and fees. Revenue sharing has low upfront costs and incentivizes the participants, which is why it is so common in so many industries, not only the ones you mentioned (talent agents, authors, lawyers, restaurant franchises, etc.)

This compensation structure does not necessarily mean largess. Most residential real estate brokers do not make a lot of money. Door-to-door salespeople are routinely exploited and make less than the minimum wage.

Yes, if it's a big money stream, you can do very well. But if you're working with a lot of money, you'll do well regardless.

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Yes to all, and steeply progressive income taxes (along with short-term cap gains taxes and similar) are the way to maintain the pricing hierarchy while limiting the dynamic range. At the higher income levels, it isn't whether you have enough gut where your are getting more than the CEO of Charter One Bank, so worries that talent will leave the street are wrong, unless we worry they will leave the country. And compete where? Most other countries with strong economies have steeper income taxes.

So, again yes, market value is (relatively) rational, but only if we give primacy to unregulated markets. That is the real issue, whether the market rules all. That is the anger's source. Since the market measures money, not moral worth or personal wisdom, it is of course shocking to see market values applied to people.

Another apparent paradox is solved by remembering what the real value of your credit card is to the issuer: Not your likelihood of paying back the principal, but how much money can be made off of you. Thus, if you pay down your balances and close accounts you score is reduced (worsened) since you are now worth less to the card issuers. So to have a good credit score you must remain hostage to Ourobouros, or BoA.

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Absolutely spot on, genghis. Thanks for this perspective on compensation. You've succinctly laid out a paradigm (market pay vs. merit pay) which is most helpful in gaining a more complete understanding of the issue of compensation. I'll file this for future use, to be sure.

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I propose a thought experiment:

Ask a banker whether he would prefer being a financial manager making $600000/yr with good medical benefits, a corner office and parking space in a secured garage, or a restaurant server making $35000/yr with no benefits and the promise of termination for missing more than 2 shifts in any 5 week period?

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If every job paid exactly $75,000, what would be your career?

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Frog juggler

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As a union representative of the American Federation of Amalgamated Frog Juggler's, I can say we would welcome a blogger such as yourself into the frog juggling fraternity. Just know that being a professional frog juggler is quite different from the frog juggling sessions you may have enjoyed amongst family and friends. It's a calling for some, and it's good to know that you've got the FAFG standing behind you when you need them.

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Either software developer (which is what I am and have been for 33 years), or possibly high school science teacher if I were more certain that my abilities match the responsibility of the job.

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Truck driver, which I am.

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merit value vs. market value

fuck it. outlaw market value.

by law.

No wonder I am a socialist

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They tried that. Didn't work out so well. You have to ask yourself, who gets to determine the merit value?

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Thank you for this lucid explanation of the wrong problem. Framing the problem defines the solution, does it not? You seem to think that you have correctly framed the problem by discussing merit and market value.

The problem is that there is no neutral market. Attacking the naivety of those who defend merit value is a red herring.

Markets are social constructions created by the rules established by laws and regulations. The current set of rules and regulations establish the way that the markets work at present. If, as some believe, there might be defects in these rules, then there is nothing special about changing the rules.

Are there defects? The long term (Plato to 19th century and most of the world today) view of government has been that government exists to provide for the well being of the population at large. If something in the way we create markets defeats this, we are free to change the markets.

It is reasonable to argue that allowing money changers (bankers) to skim huge sums of money off banking transactions in relatively non-transparent transactions (computerized banking, swaps, etc.) is not beneficial to the public at large. In that case, perhaps the markets should be changed. One way to do that is to limit how much people can skim off the markets (set salary caps). Perfectly reasonable. Has nothing to do with market value or merit value. It is the rules of the game.

Let's not frame the problem wrongly.

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Okay, I have to recommend this comment. Of course, I also recommended this post. But, that's beside the point.

The REAL point is, what in hell are you all thinking in stealing Wolfie away to the Dag? Hmmmmmmm, Genghis?????

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Nah, wolfie's a free agent and prolific as hell. I think that he posts more here than he does with us.

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You seem to think that you have correctly framed the problem by discussing merit and market value.

I attempted to frame a problem and did so the best I could, but there are many problems, I think that your concern is with a different one.

Over at dag, we discussed a third "social value" which I glossed over in my post. The government should regulate/invest/tax to build social value. I was certainly not arguing for unfettered markets, and quite the opposite, argued for progressive taxation because it is a social value.

But you seem to be arguing that there is social value in capping the salaries of a small percentage of bankers. I don't see much harm in it, but I don't see how it provides much value to the state either. And I definitely don't see that as the primary rationale behind the cap.

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Randy Newman was quoted as saying that smart people know that making a lot of money doesn't make you happy and aspire to be chemistry teachers or hosts on NPR. Jimi Hendix said "There ain't no right nowhere."

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Only way to 'cap excesive income' is a heavy progressive tax. If the gov takes 90% of everything over $3,000,000 and denies companies the deduction on that rate of pay (including all compensation, no loopholes) that would be the end of it. Be a cold day in Hell...

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I would think that value can be determined. Making a book, or a program is tangible. You can assign percentages based on what percent of that product being sold has to do with production vs. sales. Happens all the time.

What do Bankers produce?

Why are they allowed to be paid so well for so little?

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I'll tell you why, because they pay to have the rules made in their favor. Politicians are cheap.

Graft. Nothing special, or new.

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Is there that much difference between the skill of a good salesman as bullshit artist and a skilled coder? I once would have thought they were milies apart in their abilities but the fact is that isn't true. Both are worth a lot to a company. They make equal but different contributions, neither of which the company can do without. There is one difference though. Coding is a highly organized team effort. Sales is more of an individual thing.

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I don't think your description of coding is correct. Not sure how you can compare two very different skills as well. Though IMO a bullshit artist should be worth less then someone who actually produces something, but iam a computer guy so iam a bit biased.

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Granted they are very different and don't lend themselves to any direct comparison. The comparison I made is one of the relative value to the company. Not to mention their relative values are coincident. I'm a computer guy of 40+ years and own and run an IT services company. I came up on the tech side of it. Both are necessary functions with neither, in the present scheme of things anyway, able to stand alone and make money. I can make stuff all day long but I still need somebody to sell it. The assignment of inferior / superior to either isn't actually applicable. They're both functions, called from the main program. I'm way too geeky, even after all these years.

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Programming metaphors rock. I think that and each of those functions calls another function come review time:

getWorthToCompanyAsPaycheck(String ArgumentOfWorth , Money CompanyRevenueAttributedToMe)

Returns paycheck amount in [market value dollars] (may use merit value in calculation).


I, being a programmer as well, can argue my worth to the CEO (and I do), but I have difficulty showing any direct correlation to profits. One of the points that Genghis is making is that simply being closer to the money provides a clearer link to the bottom line and thus, higher compensation is easier to justify. I think this stands as a general rule independent of even the best measure of merit.

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Fortunately, owning my own company and being a tech guy at heart, I get to establish the perspective on this. And for me the mere coincidence of being close to the money doesn't equate to value and is a ridiculously illogical argument that ends up as a disservice to the company. I'm well aware this is the prevalent condition but I can't understand for the life of me why.

As a proof just look at Wall Street and consider it is populated almost exclusively by sellers and is largely void of people who actually make anything. The notion of value to the enterprise in this case has grown to crazily inflated numbers, absolutely void of any logical perspective. This is an instance of the very thing we are talking about but with the persons close to the money on steroids. However the formula is expressed, it has undeniably given a wrong answer for all but a privileged few, with the enterprise being our entire country. WTF?

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The rich people who are most open to high taxes tend to treat their wealth as a kind of lucky windfall rather than a well-deserved fortune.

And a lot of them believe God made them wealthy by providing all these opportunities. Which is different ... unless it's not.

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I don't think the specific issue of banker pay deserves quite so much fine philosophical parsing on notions of value. Banker pay has exploded over the past 30 years because of finance deregulation, which has pumped the sector's revenues up to socially suboptimal levels (fees are too high, the economy is too debt-based, capital not well allocated, gov't subsidy in various forms, etc). If you fix the regulations, the revenues will go down, and so by necessity will banker pay.

The general issue of increasing income inequality is different, though a big driver behind this trend is financial sector remuneration.

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