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Right, Wrong, and Tolerance: Part 1- Holy Order of Kittens


We all seem to have a million things to get done in our lives, and I am just like everyone else, but occasionally I try to take a time out and look at a big problem and analyze it to see if I can make anything of it. Recently, in my brief moments of clarity, I've been trying to discern what exactly is the the most detrimental flaw of mankind.  Since I have limited brain capacity, this will most likely be an ongoing process as my mind spits and sputters and pretends to be doing something productive.

 

What is a trait that all or most of us have that is a cause of most or all of the worlds troubles? I guess the best place to start is by looking at the problems the world is facing.  The first problem that comes to mind is the sticky situation in the Middle East, which I mostly attribute to religious intolerance. We have Muslim against Jew, Muslim against Christian, Muslim against Muslim. Certainly the idea of slaughtering people under the pretense of religious reasons is nothing new to history.  "If you can't convert 'em, kill 'em." seems like it could have been an appropriate slogan to most major religions at one time or another. Why do religions do this? In order to understand the workings of religion, lets start one ourselves and see what happens!

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I believe that when I die my soul will ascend to the heavens and be surrounded by cute cuddly kittens for all eternity. Now, while I am the sanest person I know, and I KNOW that I am a good person and the world would be better off if there were more people like me, my belief in Holy Kittens is only held by me.  This is troubling. I mean, if all these people think differently than me, either I am wrong, or they are wrong. Since I know I'm not stupid, it must be them. But how do I remedy this? I convince others to believe the same thing I do! If I can get a group that all believes the same thing, then we are super right! After all, we can't all be bonkers, can we?

 

So the Holy Order of Kittens is very pleased with itself and its beliefs.. that is until it meets the First Church of Dog. Dogs? Give me a break. Who the heck worships dogs? That is just idiotic. How the heck can they have so many members? They must all be insane.  Because we are good-hearted, righteous people, we must convince these canine lovers of their wicked ways so that they may come to the light. You see, by these people believing differently than us and being allowed to exist, it creates a conflict to us being right. Moreover, if Cat clergy strays to the Dog cultist side, what will that do to the Cat reputation? How do we convert Dog lovers to our side? Threatening them with eternal damnation has a certain appeal. If that doesn't work? I guess we have to kill them. Violence is nasty, but really, what else do you do with people who are wrong?

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Could it be that religious intolerance is really just based on the fact that we all believe that we are good people?  By believing we are good people, we look down on others who don't think the way we do, because its easier to condemn than to put forth the effort to understand.  Why is this? We all do it.  How many times have you told someone, "I told you so?" It feels good to be right. Especially when someone else is wrong. At what point in our evolutionary chain did we develop the need to feel right? Am I over simplifying things? Please send your comments! I am hoping to get some discussion on this.

 

~my thoughts on religion~

I have nothing against people believing what they want. As a matter of fact, I think its great to have your beliefs! It gives your life structure and meaning. It provides something to turn to when nothing else is available. The problem lies with thinking that your way is the ONLY way. Exploring your own beliefs and finding what you can be comfortable with instead of just believing what was pounded into your head as a child can help you. Once you are comfortable and at ease with your beliefs, you can appreciate that other people will come with different conclusions. What you believe is right for YOU. Everyone has a little different idea of how things work. None of us will know for sure what the truth is (not while we are alive anyway). No need to be silly over it. But then again, that is just my way of thinking.

~end thoughts~


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I would join the religion, but would be its first reformer/heretic. (Kittens are nice, but adult cats are much better to hang around with -- as the one on my lap insists on my writing.)

Seriously, I think most people accept other people's irrational beliefs, it's the actions they perform to impliment them that causes trouble. (Christians who gloat gleefully and perform a Snoopy-dance over the thought of my going to hell may not be 'nice' but they don't bother me. I have a problem with the 'nice' believers who are willing to use the engine of the state to 'save me from myself.')

But there are some specific problems with the whole belief structure. The most important one is the effect it has on 'critical thinking.' Because (to conservative Christians and almost all believing Muslims) "unbelief" lands you in hell, and because both groups are 'sacred-text literalists,' at best a believer has to 'discipline' his critical thinking skills when they come too close to 'dangerous topics.' At worst, critical thinking is abandoned all together and replaced by 'appeals to authority' -- usually not to what the book itself says, but to what their pastor/imam says it says.

Which might not hurt if it were restricted to 'last things' but it laps over into politics, medicine, and even whether you pay attention to the latest claims Billy Mays (the "Oxy-moron' in my wife's wonderful phrase) makes about whatever he's selling this week. That doesn't just hurt the person himself, but family, budget, and, in the worst (i.e., George Bush) case, the country.

(Oh, did my profile include 'long-winded'? If it didn't, it should've.)

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Sometimes I envision a meeting of the nation's most powerful CEOs chuckling away at how its so easy to sway people to vote for policy that hurts them just by telling them its "morally right". I know here in the South, I've often heard people saying they could never vote Democrat because of the abortion issue alone. *shrug* I think the conservatives do some serious thinking, but they use that thinking to find new and crazy reasons for believing what they are told to believe. I'm not sure why that is easier than doing the thinking first, and then the believing, but perhaps its like the math textbooks they have now. The answer is in the back, so you can just look up the solution, pencil in how you think the solution was achieved, then turn in your work and hope the teacher doesn't inspect too closely.

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Sorry I missed your thread when it posted. I se it's just Part 1. When you do the next part, be sure and link. You're asking some good questions. I like the response by Prup/Jim.

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Thank you for reading! I am new at this, and still figuring out how to navigate TPMCafé... and whether the Café part of this is a restaurant, coffee shop, barroom, cabaret, or nightclub.

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Actually a year ago some of us, for a while, had a "Saloon" - which we opened from time to time. That might have continued had TPM not done a software switch which was supposed to be over in "less than 24 hours" - but drove many of us nuts for nearly 8 months! There is a mix of playing and deadly seriousness at this place. (be glad you missed the software mess - they've never really convinced me it wasn't deliberate covert sabotage by bushco)

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