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And the new champion of the economic world :Niall Ferguson. Niall Ferguson ?


In today's FT Niall Ferguson takes a victory lap, savoring his defeat of Paul Krugman in the April 30 New York Review symposium on the economy. - see the June 11 NYR.

At the symposium

Ferguson:  "the federal debt will rise over the next.....ten years to 100% of the GDP" or maybe 150%. This projected relationship in 2019 will cause a spike in interest rates interfering with the recovery.

Krugmann:  ' There's a global savings glut" ..."There is no excess demand ...to drive up interest rates"

'We've been as high as 100% (debt to GDP) .It's an issue but not a show stopper'

Ferguson: "I'm depressed"  '..."We're going to regulate...Where were you in the 1970s  ...I don't remember that going too smoothly"

Today in the FT

Ferguson: 'Interest rates have gone up in the last 3 weeks.That shows I was right and Krugman was wrong'

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Flavius: Hmn: 2017's projected debt to GDP which didn't spook the debt market 3 weeks ago is now wreaking havoc. So Krugman was wrong  that that dire  projection won't affect interest rates right now. Is it maybe possible that the equity rally is causing that? When stocks go up, interest rates go up for reasons perhaps not  obvious to the Laurence A Tisch Professor of History at Harvard and Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution.

Stay tuned. Watch the FT for Krugman's reply. Should be fun.

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Thank you, Flavius, for mentioning this symposium. It was a fascinating, and very educative discussion, especially for a fellow like me who has a lot to learn about economics.

I don't care much for anybody's predictions, regardless of how many letters and hallowed institutional references follow their names. But I appreciate Ferguson's approach to the problems of money. So it didn't bother me to see you declare him the "winner."

Since I'm still trying figure out the difference between a monetarist and a Keynesian, (it really seems to me to have more to do with whether the trickle-down Republicans or the trickle-up Democrats are spending the greenbacks)--I appreciate a panelist who explains causes and effects in a comprehensible way.

At the very end of that New York Review of Books Symposium, Bill Bradley spoke some quite lucid remarks. His analysis was so profound, in fact, that I would submit his name as the dark-horse winner.

He outlined three mistakes for which our government is responsible:
1.) repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999
2.) 1999 decision to not regulate derivatives and credit default swaps
3.) 2004 SEC allowance of 30:1 leveraged debt ratio for banks, instead of the former 10:1.

Pertaining to non-regulation of the new, complex financial instruments, Mr. Bradley offered this explanation, as quoted in the New York Review of Books,:
"...the decision not to regulate derivatives created the following sequence: you have mortgages; then a thousand mortgages are packaged and sold as a mortgage-backed security; a thousand mortgage-backed securities are packaged and sold as a collateral debt obligation [CDOs]; then a thousand collateral debt obligations are packaged and sold as a CDO squared; and insuring each one of those bundles are credit default swaps, which are a part of that $33 trillion. And our government deliberately decided not to regulate this chain of investments."

Good analysis, I thought. He also concluded his remarks, and the discussion too, with a chastisement of Mr.Greenspan for not withdrawing "the punchbowl"from "the party."

The celabrants had gotten tipsy and irresponsible with their wild management of America's nestegg.
The Fed chaiirman hadn't curbed their intoxicated behavior; Congress had passed the buck years ago.
Then the derivatives hit the fan, and,well, you know the rest...

I don't think anyone can predict what's going to follow this disaster.

Carey Rowland, author of Glass half-Full

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In fairness to many of the cast of characters
they bought into the Friedman/Ferguson theory that capitalism is self correcting. Thus Ferguson's comments about "excessive" regulation in the 70s and his challenge to the panel: we're things better then?

To which my answer is :"Yes", we have deeper unemployment than at any point in the 70s and it would be far deeper but for the Govt' actions which he- with some reason-objects to. We had Stagflation at the end but that was curable by Volker without the need for heroic measures.


I can't say the Ferguson is wrong in hia predictions. I do say that he expresses them with much more certainty than is justified.For him or anyone.

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Oops.Should have been "were" no "we're"

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Thanks, I hadn't gotten to DeLong yet today. I was interested in his comment that Ferguson kept trying to goad Krugman with near insulting interjections which weren't repeated in the NYR transcript.

As DeLong wrote yesterday there are plenty of serious economists who share at least some of Ferguson's conclusions but get there thoughtfully. The NYR should have invited one of them.

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