Bush Orders DOJ To Probe Ohio Voter Registrations
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President George W. Bush late Friday asked Attorney General Michael Mukasey to investigate whether hundreds of thousands of newly registered voters in the battleground state of Ohio would have to verify the information on their voter registration forms or be given provisional ballots, an issue the U.S. Supreme Court weighed in on last week.
The unprecedented intervention by the White House less than two weeks before the presidential election may result in at least 200,000 voters in Ohio not being able to vote on Election Day if they are forced to provide additional identification when they head to the polls.
House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, sent a letter to Bush Friday asking that he order the Department of Justice to probe the matter.
"I strongly urge you to direct Attorney General Mukasey and the Department of Justice to act." Boehner said in his letter "Unless action is taken by the Department immediately, thousands, if not tens or hundreds of thousands of names whose information has not been verified through the [Help America Vote Act] procedures mandated by Congress will remain on the voter rolls during the November 4 election; and there is a significant risk if not a certainty, that unlawful votes will be cast and counted. Given the Election Day is less than two weeks away, immediate action by the Department is not only warranted, but also crucial."
For instance, from October 2002 to September 2005, a total of 70 people were convicted for federal election related crimes, according to figures compiled by the New York Times last year. Only 18 of those were for ineligible voting.
In recent years, federal prosecutors reached similar conclusions despite pressure from the Bush administration to lodge "election fraud" charges against voter registration groups seen as bringing more Democratic voters into the democratic process.
Some of the Bush administration prosecutors who refused to seek these indictments were then fired in 2006 as part of a purge of nine U.S. Attorneys deemed not "loyal Bushies."
This "prosecutor-gate" scandal led to the resignations of several senior White House and Justice Department officials, including Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. President Bush then asserted broad executive privilege to block testimony by Karl Rove and other top White House officials.
In a statement on his website, Boehner said starting today, "Ohio elections officials will begin removing ballots cast during the state's early voting period from their identifying envelopes, eliminating any possibility of catching fraudulently cast ballots."
"Franklin County officials yesterday tossed out a dozen fraudulently cast absentee ballots, and the Hamilton County prosecutor has appointed an independent counsel to investigate more than 200 ballots on which the name or address does not match to state records," Boehner said. "Prosecutor Joe Deters has asked that at least the questionable ballots remain in their identifying envelopes until voter registration information can be confirmed."
President Bush contacted Mukasey late Friday and told him to investigate Boehner's complaints. A report released earlier this month by the Justice Department's inspector general said Bush "spoke with Attorney General Gonzales in October 2006 about their concerns over voter fraud."
Federal investigative guidelines strongly discourage election-related probes before ballots are cast because of the likelihood that the inquiries will become politicized and might influence the election outcomes.
"In most cases, voters should not be interviewed, or other voter-related investigation done, until after the election is over," according to the Justice Department's guidelines for election offenses as revised in May 2007 during Gonzales's tenure as Attorney General.
Even though those May 2007 guidelines watered down even stricter language in previous editions, the Gonzales-era rules still cautioned:
"Overt investigative steps may chill legitimate voting activities. They are also likely to be perceived by voters and candidates as an intrusion into the election. Indeed, the fact of a federal criminal investigation may itself become an issue in the election."
In 2004, Ohio was the state where tens of thousands of votes cast on electronic voting machines intended for Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate, were handed to Bush. Additionally, tens of thousands of voters were purged from voter registration rolls. Exit polls on election night 2004 showed Kerry leading Bush in many Ohio counties. Bush carried Ohio by 119,000 votes.
The Nov. 4 presidential election may very well boil down to Ohio if Mukasey's DOJ gets involved.
At issue is a federal law that requires states to verify the eligibility of voters.
A federal appeals court recently upheld a lower court ruling and ordered Ohio election officials to help counties set up a computer system to ensure the veracity of voter registrations.
That would have required a total overhaul of the computer system just weeks before election and would have jeopardized as many as 200,000 voters, forcing them to cast provisional ballots that may go uncounted, Brunner said.
She said it was impossible to set up a new system or reprogram the existing one before the Nov. 4 election.
The appeals court ruling was in response to a lawsuit filed last month against Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Bruner, a Democrat, by the Ohio Republican Party. The lawsuit claimed voter registration information for hundreds of thousands of new voters did not match up with official government data, such as social security records and driver's licenses, and was evidence of voter registration fraud. More than 600,000 people registered to vote in the state in this election cycle.
But in court filings, GOP officials did not provide documentary evidence to back up their claims.
The Ohio Republican Party argued that the 2002 Help America Vote Act (HAVA), a law that grew out of the disastrous 2000 election between Bush and Al Gore, required Brunner to share any voter registration discrepancies with county election boards so they can identify voter fraud prior to vote counts.
Republicans faulted Brunner for her "steadfast refusal to provide the HAVA "mismatch" data to the county boards of elections in a meaningful way."
The Ohio GOP wanted Brunner to provide the lists of the newly registered voters whose voter registration information on did not match government records with 88 Ohio counties in an attempt to weed out voter registration fraud.
Republicans accused Brunner of violating federal election laws and that she was "actively working to conceal fraudulent activity."
Brunner said the lawsuit was "politically motivated." She said "misstated technical information or glitches in databases" was the explanation for some mismatched information on voter registration forms.
"Many of those discrepancies bear no relationship whatsoever to a voter's eligibility to vote a regular, as opposed to a provisional, ballot,'' Brunner said last week in a court filing. The mismatches "may well be used at the county level unnecessarily to challenge fully qualified voters and severely disrupt the voting process."
Last week, the U.S. Supreme Court took up the case and, in a two-page unanimous opinion, dismissed the lower court's ruling on a technicality. The justices said lawsuits "brought by a private litigant" could not be used to enforce states to abide by federal laws.
"We express no opinion on the question whether HAVA is being properly implemented," the unsigned opinion said.
In a statement, Boehner said he wants Mukasey to intervene and enforce Brunner to comply with HAVA and verify votes.
"The Court ruled that the a private entity did not have the legal standing to enforce federal laws, leading Boehner to ask Attorney General Mukasey to compel Brunner to comply, which would mean providing access to a computerized statewide database, as required under HAVA," Boehner's statement says.
Rick Davis, Sen. John McCain's campaign manager, said Brunner is seeking to ``minimize the level of fairness and transparency in this election.''
Various polling data show McCain's opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, leading in Ohio by five to seven percentage points.
But Republicans, perhaps fearing a Democratic victory, have called into question the integrity of hundreds of thousands new voter registrations.
One of the most notable targets is the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), a grassroots group that has registered hundreds of thousands of new voters this year. ACORN is reportedly under federal investigation for engaging in what Republicans believe is a nationwide voter registration fraud scheme.
Trying to salvage his campaign, John McCain has jumped into the ACORN case, too, citing it at the third presidential debate. He declared ACORN "is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy."
However, the investigations launched against ACORN - now including the reported involvement of the FBI - have raised other concerns, especially that Republicans are flogging this issue in an effort to stir up anger, to revive McCain's campaign, and to intimidate new voters.
For its part, ACORN has insisted that its own quality control flagged many of the suspicious registration forms before they were submitted to state officials and that state laws often require outside registration groups to submit all forms regardless of obvious problems.
Boehner also wrote Bush on Wednesday asking him to block federal funding to ACORN.





Just last week some New Yorkers were caught trying to vote in Ohio. They moved to Ohio and lived there for 30 days so they could register. But they had no intention for making Ohio their permanent residence.
There's probably a lot of that happening. What's wrong with trying to get to the bottom of it?
October 25, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem is you KNOW Bush is doing this politically. Come on now, to use the presidency of the white house to further your parties goal is deplorable.
October 25, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem is you KNOW Bush is doing this politically. Come on now, to use the presidency of the white house to further your parties goal is deplorable.
October 25, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who told you they had no intention of making Ohio their permanent residence? Or were you just reading their mind's?
This is Republicans using the UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE to try and win an election they would have NO CHANCE of winning if they just played by the rules. Besides have you EVER seen the Bush DOJ try to GET TO THE BOTTOM OF ANYTHING?
October 25, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
"MiddleClassBill" --
You are not middle class; you are a troll lying against the cat which is already out of the bag:
ACORN registers voters. Those registrations are given to state voter registration OFFICIALS who ELIMINATE any problem registration. As result there is NO resolutant VOTING fraud.
The report that some NYers moved to OH soley to vote? What is the EVIDENCE for that unfounded assertion? Where is your PROOF that that happened? PROVE those voters weren't McLiar supporters.
October 25, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh be serious. It would be cheaper to pay Ohioans $1000 to vote than to move New Yorkers to Ohio.
October 25, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
My sister voted a couple of days ago in Florida and they had trouble verifying/finding her information. She was able to vote, however. Once she left the line, an Obama lawyer approached her and asked what happened. The lawyer then took her name and phone number. I heard he a lot of lawyers in Florida and I'm sure it is the same in Ohio. The MSM is useless when it comes to voter supression, but I'm sure the Obama camp is on it.
October 25, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
THAT'S good to hear. The whole time I was reading this, I was thinking, "So, what the hell are the Dems doing to counter this?"
October 25, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just saw this on the Public Record & haven't found it in the MSM. The Republicans are determined to steal the election & they are happy to let "Justice" do their dirty work. Fat chance Mukasey will push back. Unless Obama wins by landslide margins in enough states to get 270 EC votes, this election won't be decided any faster (or any differently) from 2000. RealityChex.com
October 25, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know the Obama campaign is much better organized than Kerry in 2004 and has more lawyers in battleground states. But we all need to do our part phonebanking, canvassing, and networking. If you know any lawyers who can help tell them to call their state Obama HQ or the Illinois HQ office.
The repugs are running the dirtiest most vulgar campaign in the history of this country and we must do everything we can to stop them. It's not over yet, I don't care what the polls say. You think last week was bad - wait until this week!
Prayer would also be helpful.
(Who's responsible for Mukasey - None other than Chuck Schumer - who recommended him!)
October 25, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Prayer will only cause "God" cognitive dissonance, if the far-right religionuts have any chance of being theologically correct. And now is not the time for such inaction.
Leave "God" out of it, regarldess whether "He" exists or not -- we've had more than enough of the mixing of religiobunk and politics.
Get off your ass -- and your knees -- and DO phonebanking, etc.
October 25, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can Bush be so bold (or stupid) as to insult the very Supreme Court that put his clownish administraion into power in the first place?
Talk about spittin into the wind and pullin the mask of the ol Lone Ranger......
Bush and the republic party along with the McCain camp better hope they wont need their help at the finish line because SC justices are easily offended by back stabbers.
October 25, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow -everybody is very antsy today. You'll all chastise me for using the NYPost as my source, but they don't make stuff up. (They might be slanted, but the following story is not an opinion, it actually happened)
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10242008/news/politics/nyers_swing__miss_135036.htm
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10202008/news/politics/gotham_to_ohio_vote_scam_eyed_134392.htm
As for the "troll" comment, I thought this blog was a place to debate the issues, not just a one-side Obama support camp.
October 25, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may have that wrong.
But the "issue" you open with is a bare allegation with no factual support. And I'm sure you know the difference between fact-free smear against Democrats -- which is what you are doing -- and actually providing evidence for your smears.
And I'm sure you know the difference between smearing and name-calling, on one hand, and on the other, adult conduct, such as discussion and debate.
I won't ask if you know the meanig of INTELLECTUALLY HONEST, because even you know you'll lie that you do.
October 25, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
JNagarya,
"ACORN registers voters. Those registrations are given to state voter registration OFFICIALS who ELIMINATE any problem registration. As result there is NO resolutant VOTING fraud."
There are 200,000 voter registrations in Ohio where the SSN or driver license number didn't match what they had in there databases. Is there enough time for these registrations to all be verified?? How can you be so sure won't be fraud?
By the way - what the heck does "resolutant" mean???
October 25, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
MiddleClassBill
"There are 200,000 voter registrations in Ohio where the SSN or driver license number didn't match what they had in there databases. Is there enough time for these registrations to all be verified?? How can you be so sure won't be fraud?"
Bill - First of all, having been involved in voter registration, here's how the process works. It's designed to protect against voter fraud - When a registration form is submitted it goes through the process that JNagarya talked about. The reason that so many registrations are bounced is not because they're fraudulent but because they were not exact matches to the information in state motor vehicle files or Social Security info on file. This need for exact match info came about because of a Federal law that came into effect about five years ago that was supposed to make it "easier" to vote. The problem is it was heavily influenced by Republicans and in particular two lobbyists - Jack Abramoff and one other whose name escapes me right now - both now in jail. Starting to get the picture. So if you went to register to vote for instance and you registerd as "Middle C. Bill" instaed of MiddleClassBill your registration could be flagged. Of course that's not in the spirit of the law; but remember who promoted it. Now even if all of these registrations are challenged people still have the right to vote. They can fill out provisional ballots at their polling place that would be cross checked after the polls close. Now imagine all of that happening on Election Day with people waiting in line. Many would leave before voting and many would not even try. That's why the Republicans want the 200K registrations checked, and that, my friend is how voter suppression works. That's what the Republicans want; that's what they did in 2000 & 2004; and that's what we're all worried about. Hope that helps you understand.
October 25, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
"There are 200,000 voter registrations in Ohio where the SSN or driver license number didn't match what they had in there databases."
There are A-L-L-E-G-E-D-L-Y 200,000 voter registrations in OH were the SSN or driver license [those are not the only criteria] A-L-L-E-G-E-D-L-Y didn't [past tense] match what they [ who are "they"?] had in there [sic] databases.
And that A-L-L-E-G-A-T-I-O-N is made by REPUBLICANS who have a thoroughly well known PUBLIC reputation for concern with voting fraud which doesn't exist.
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Is there enough time for these registrations to all be verified??
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I already pointed out to you how the system works. They HAVE been verified, else they wouldn't be in the OFFICIAL voter registration database.
There discrepancies in data are as the OH Sec. of State said, typos, differences in how one spells one's name in different contexts, etc.
Your task, of course, is to waste bandwith belaboring a fact-free A-L-L-E-G-A-T-I-O-N made by a political party which is KNOWN to do everything it can, with total disregard for Constitution and rule of law, in order to "win" elections, up to and including THEFT.
Your task is to endeavor to generate a fake hysteria about a rality that DOESN'T EXIST.
For EVIDENCE for my statements on these issues see the facts involving violations of law by the Republican Party in New Mexico. You might try floating your horseshit in those threads, in the faces of those who have been directly confronted with Republican violations of voting rights laws.
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How can you be so sure won't be fraud?
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Because, jackass, I explained how the process works:
1. ACORN -- as example -- registers voters.
2. ACORN THEN gives the voter registrations to state voter registration OFFICIALS.
3. The state voter registration OFFICIALS then eliminate any problem voter registration.
What that means is simple and clear: If a voter registration card is filled out by "Mickey Mouse," as example, the voter registration OFFICIALS KNOW that "Mickey Mouse" doesn't exist, so that voter registration is ELIMINATED.
As well, they compare registrations with sexisting cross-check data.
So do us all a favor: stop wasting our time with your fake hysteria.
October 25, 2008 11:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
ESK - how can you assume that most are getting bounced not because they're fraudulent but because they aren't exact matches?
When Mickey Mouse and the entire Dallas Cowboy team are getting registered in other states, why not spend the time to check them? I'm sorry if the lines are long. If it's important to them, then they would stick it out and wait to submit a provisional ballot.
But we can't just assume that they are all "innocent" mistakes/typos. I'm not saying that I suspect it's fraud, but if there's an inconsistency you need to check it out.
October 25, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you see Bill this is how it works. If someone claiming to be Mickey Mouse shows up and attempts to vote, you charge him with a felony. That tends to discourage folks from dressing up like a big mouse and trying to vote. Registering isn't voting. You may falsify registration forms to make a few bucks but few are willing to risk going to prison. That's why as much as it might amaze you, we don't have prisons full of people who have committed voter fraud.
October 25, 2008 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
When Mickey Mouse and the entire Dallas Cowboy team are getting registered in other states, why not spend the time to check them?
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How many times must it be explained to you before you stop IGNORING it?
The state voter registration OFFICIALS VERIFY them, as is their statutory duty.
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I'm sorry if the lines are long. If it's important to them, then they would stick it out and wait to submit a provisional ballot.
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No, you are not sorry. You're simply here to generate fake hysteria about a problem everyone -- including Pat Rogers in NM -- knows DOESN'T EXIST.
October 25, 2008 11:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill,
The other reason we know that typos or small differnences of between the registration and DMV records is that it has already been publicly stated.
In our state the secretary of state stated that this was the case and that her office was going to try to contact all of the voters involved so that they could correct the issues before election day.
I believe we have to enocurage everyone to get out and vote, to do everythng you can to avoid a povisional ballot. If you must then vote on aprovisional ballot and let the Obama camp know.
I think we should call for a provisional vote count from every state before accepting any results in those states as final. We need to be willing to wait however long it takes for the results of this election. I they try to dissuade 200,000 voters in Ohio and force them on to provisional ballots then we should insist on waiting until those votes have been resolved.
Bill, voter fraud is incredibly rare!
What is NOT RARE is VOTER SUPRESSION. NOT COUNTING millions of peoples votes! Are you not outraged by that?! They take the time to go and vote as responsible citizens and their votes are NOT COUNTED!!! If there is anything to get active about it is to make sure that our elections are fair and real.
As the Obama campaign has already asked Mukasey to allow the special counsel to get involved in this issue it is perhpas only appropriate for a special counsel to do.
President Bush and his DOJ that is poisoned by corruption should recuse itself from any involvement in this election.
October 25, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
MiddleClassBill: "SK - how can you assume that most are getting bounced not because they're fraudulent but because they aren't exact matches?
When Mickey Mouse and the entire Dallas Cowboy team are getting registered in other states, why not spend the time to check them? I'm sorry if the lines are long. If it's important to them, then they would stick it out and wait to submit a provisional ballot.
But we can't just assume that they are all "innocent" mistakes/typos. I'm not saying that I suspect it's fraud, but if there's an inconsistency you need to check it out."
Wake up and smell the 200,000 pots of coffee! I was properly registered for the NM Democratic Presidential Caucus in February. The NM Secretary of State's office, however, privatized its voter registration database to ES & S. I took my official copy of my registration, sent by my County Clerk, with me to the polling place, and FOR SOME REASON WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN EXPLAINED, my registration failed to be on the poll lists generated by ES & S! Thousands of other valid voters were also missing from the lists. Along with 17,000 other people in NM, I had to vote by provisional ballot. Furthermore, they ran out of envelopes for the provisional ballots, so my provisional was probably invalidated, due to no fault of mine, as provisional ballots must be in the envelope according to NM election law.
October 26, 2008 3:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
So JNagarya - you still insist I am generating fake hysteria? You are so hysterical that you love to use all caps. Take a deep breath and try to relax.
Did you read the article about the New Yorkers that tried to vote in Ohio? Or do you insist that it's a fairytale?
October 26, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Middle Class Bill.
Please, please I beg of you; DO NOT PUT RELIANCE ON THE NEW YORK POST AS A NEWS SOURCE!!!
This Murdoch-owned paper has retracted more stories they breathlessly reported over the years than I have had hot breakfasts!
Google New York Post + Retracts:
New York Posts retracts Michelle Obama Room Service Report
New York Post retracts Opie fiancee sex tape story
and so forth.
On occasion they have broken real stories with real reportage..so they are not an entire loss to the profession, but overall its caveat lector with them in my opinion.
October 26, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
MiddleClassBill: Any idea what happened to 17,000 validly registered voters whose names mysteriously disappeared from the poll lists generated by the private company ES&S?
I read the story about the NYer's and printed out a copy for my files. I don't think it was absolutely conclusive that these people had done anything wrong. I also read a similar story about McCain campaign staffers who were doing the same thing.
October 26, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hadn't heard about the ES&S issue so can't respond. But happy to read any articles you have about it.
Again, my point is simply that you can't assume all of those 200,000 questionable registrations were typos.
As for my "allegations" that JNagarya likes to throw around, my source is Ms. Brunner herself, not the GOP. Her office said that nearly 200,000 newly registered voters have mismatched data. Her office also said that mismatches CAN (my emphasis) be the product of simple spelling errors. But this was a general statement and her office has not said that those 200,000 in question are in fact all just spelling errors and typos.
And my understanding is that Justice Stevens has said that Ms. Brunner doesn't have to share these 200,000 with election officials. So it sounds like these 200,000 registrations will all be deemed "OK" and allowed to vote.
October 26, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Again, my point is simply that you can't assume all of those 200,000 questionable registrations were typos."
Bill you're right, you can't assume that all were "typos" or non exact replications of Motor Vehicle or Social Security information. But that's not the point, is it? The issue is the Right to Vote. So if you agree that the right to vote is paramount, then only a hypocrite, an overly obsessive person, or someone who wants to supress the vote would be so astonishingly mindless to make an argument that, historical evidence and trends to the contrary, that allegedly incorrectly completed voter registration forms would result in massive voter fraud, and that checking through those forms at this late date is a worthwhile endeavor. Enough! I'll just let the others in this thread hammer you from here on in.
October 26, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
MiddleClassBill: "Again, my point is simply that you can't assume all of those 200,000 questionable registrations were typos..."
Nor can you assume that they weren't. The problem is that if the comparison databases are inappropriate or problematic, then we have to conclude that the figure '200,000' for potentially questionable registrations is dubious and inflated. The registrations may be fine; the comparison databases may be the real problem.
You can read some about the Dem NM Caucus issue in the current Rolling Stone. Greg Palast and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. wrote a long piece for it on the vote suppression in NM and other places.
October 26, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I will read the Rolling Stone article. (Please note that I don't scream about how liberal the RS magazine is. That's what I get when I refer to the NY Post).
The 200,000 figure could be inflated, but that number was coming from Ms. Brunner, not the GOP.
October 26, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am so fed up with the crap and spins, I don't believe anything anymore without double checking who owns and profits from a particular media and what their agendas are. Guess who owns the New York Post? The News Corporation, who also owns Fox News. (If a terrorist organization is one that sets out to instill fear and terror then Fox News is a terrorist organization.)
This is the first presidential election my life has been stable enough for me to really invest energy in becoming educated and I am horrified at how much I had been deceived before and what lengths are taken to distort the whole voting process. I almost wish I hadn't found out and could remain unconscious and spouting the party lines like so many people seem to be doing.
What must the world think of us?
October 26, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink