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Whining about bowing and Other Attempts to Demean the President


These goons never miss a moment to demean our President. Never. Politics stops at the water's edge? Not when the President is a Democrat. It is enough to make one think there is a vast right wing conspiracy against our President.

Yesterday it was the Known Traitor Hoekstra (having disclosed highly secure information he received as a member of the Intelligence (cough, cough) Committee), on Face the Nation:

I think that the government has been too slow in giving us information. There hasn't been enough transparency for members of Congress, for the press, or for the American people. You know, I think that we need to move very, very aggressively and do a full-scale investigation as to who knew what and where.

You know, this Awlaki guy in Yemen. He's been on our radar screen since 2001, 2002. What -- my sources tell me we had evidence back in 2002 that would have enabled us to prosecute him. Why didn't we prosecute him then?

The other thing I want to know is people want to know who Hasan has been talking to in the Middle East. I want to know who Awlaki is talking to in the United States. And have we been able to capture those communications? I want to know what's going on between the intel community, the Department of Defense, and the FBI.

I think we had a lot of information on Hasan, but I'm not sure that we put all of these things in place so that we would have been in a position to perhaps stop what happened at Fort Hood last week.



And, about President Bush's failure to do ANYTHING about a CIA warning in August, 2001 that Osama bin Laden was about to strike the United States? Well, at least he asked for copy of the report. Thankfully, the 9/11 Commission actually got it and disclosed it.



Now comes the idiotic rant about bowing to the Emperor of Japan. Here now is the distinguished historian Page Smith's account of our first Ambassador to the Court of St. James upon his presentation to King George III who, after all, would have had him executed for treason (which Adams surely committed) had the Revolutionary War gone the other way:

The Foreign Secretary then carried Adams with him in his coach to the court and ushered him to the antechamber, "very full of ministers of state, lords, and bishops, and all sorts of courtiers." The Dutch and Swedish ministers, perhaps noticing Adams' agitation came up to chat and in a few minutes Carmarthen returned to escort him to the King's closet. The door was closed after him and Adams found himself alone with the Killoro and the Foreign Secretary. He bowed the three times that etiquette required - at the door, again halfway into the room, and a third time standing directly before His Majesty. It was a strange and dramatic confrontation - two short, stout men, both rather choleric, stubborn and strong-willed, sharing a certain emotional instability and a native shrewdness and wit. They were both great talkers and both, in their hearts, farmers. They both lived in worlds where they felt frequently that every man's hand was turned against them. One was the King of the most powerful nation in the world, the other's permanent rank that of a provincial lawyer and farmer. It was the New England fanner who represented victory and the King who had been forced to accept defeat. The name of Adams, John or Samuel, had been a stench in the nostrils of George III for almost twenty years and now an Adams stood before him, ambassador from those colonies which not so long ago had been the King's special treasure.

Both men were agitated and ill at ease. Adams, obviously nervous, ("I felt more," he wrote later, "than I did or could express") delivered his speech as best he could and the King listened "with a most apparent emotion .. . very much affected" and replied with a tremor in his voice: "Sir...the circumstances of this audience are so extraordinary, the language you have now held is so extremely proper and the feelings you have discovered so justly adapted to the occasion, that I must say that I not only receive with pleasure the assurance of the friendly dispositions of the United States, but that I am very glad the choice has fallen upon you to be their minister. . . . I will be very frank with you," the King continued slowly, rather haltingly, searching out his words. "I was the last to consent to the separation; but the separation having been made, and having become inevitable, I have always said, as I say now, that I would be the first to meet the friendship of the United States as an independent power." Then in a more informal spirit the King asked Adams if he had come most recently from France. "Yes, Your Majesty." The King gave his short, barking laugh. "There is an opinion among some people that you are not the most attached of all your countrymen to the manners of France." Adams was disconcerted at the remark, but he adopted the King's light air and answered: "That opinion, sir, is not mistaken; I must avow to Your Majesty I have no attachment but to my own country."

"A honest man will never have any other," the King replied.

The King spoke a few words to Lord Carmarthen and then turned and bowed to Adams, signifying that the audience was at an end. The American retreated, walking backward with as much grace as he could affect, bowed a last time at the door, and withdrew.

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This is great!!! If I recall correctly he took his son with him on this trip.

When in Rome, follow the protocol, I guess.

All that hand holding by w and the Saudi grand vizier (or whatever his phony station is called) comes to mind.

But this is such a fun bit of history.

Thank you for a fun blog.

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His son was his secretary in France, but I don't think so in England, where Abigail was with him. His status was, of course, significantly different after what the King called "the separation" even if we date our independence to July 4, 1776. By this point, nobody was trying to capture and hang Mr. Adams.

The PBS series a year or so back made it appear that Mr. Adams considered the idea that he not bow before the King since he was no longer a subject in any way, shape or form, but in the presence of the court itself, as Ambassador of the United States of America, Mr. Adams knew better and that nobody, not even FOX News, would take a bow to mean that he was taking it all back and that the United States would return to British rule. (OK, the FOX News part is fanciful, but relevant nonetheless. I don't think the Emperor believed the President was surrendering to Japan and undoing the outcome of World War II.)

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Well, the GOP thinks we now have to return Kiska and Attu to the Japanese from our island collection on the Aleutian Peninsula in Alaska, not to mention parts of Pearl Harbor and many of the Pacific Islands.

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Nice one barth.

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Excellent. Forwarding to wingnut family members....

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Barth,
That's a great historical counterpoint to the present kerfluffle.

To honor and respect someone's tradition goes far to building bridges with them. It is not surprising that this kind of etiquette is alien to the mindset of the ethnocentric blowhards of the right wing, whose reading of nuance goes no deeper than interpreting a bow as a sign of weakness.

Thanks for putting this in perspective.

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The true humor here is that if Obama *hadn't* bowed, the same pundits would be screaming about how he didn't respect the host country's traditions. You just can't win with some people...

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Just wait until he wishes people a Merry Christmas.

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