A treatment algorithm for every mortgage in America?
How about adopting a medical model for looking at the foreclosure/mortgage/economy epidemic?
I suggest this because business-based fixes don't seem to get at the human factors involved, nor do they push money down to where stimulus is really needed. Plus, by the time we figure out whether it's the job of banks and mortgage companies to rescue their customers (a la Dickens' "Mankind should have been my business,") the epidemic will have spread.
Models based on our/government's responsibility to our fellow humans run into trouble primarily because we hesitate when we think about rewarding the people who caused the problem. That's a dead end at this juncture, if there ever was one.
I guess my point is that if the CDC were fighting a national epidemic of dysentary or some kind of weird pneumonia, they wouldn't provide or withhold treatment based on who washed their hands. They would get on with it--find the worst-hit areas and focus on those with appropriate treatment. They would do containment and try to keep further outbreaks from happening in currently healthy areas.
So how about adopting a disease model? We know that housing is the problem, and that the foreclosure outbreaks began in areas susceptible to sub-prime and ARM mortgages. We also know that foreclosure is contagious--rate resets, foreclosure and fear of foreclosure lead to plummeting housing prices and more foreclosure. In addition, we know that the problem is relatively contained to certain lower-income, high-turnover areas, as well as neighborhoods that developed in the bubble years, but fear and the inability to sell property make the walk-away a possibility in even the least likely neighborhoods.
I would like to ask the group to come up with a treatment algorithm for every mortgage in America, all the way from "Clean bill of health" to watchful waiting, to serious resucitation. I'll start at the two ends of the spectrum.
Clean bill of health: "Did you last purchase or refinance your home before 2000? Have housing values on your street or neighborhood declined by less than 10%? Do you envision staying in your house for more than five years? You'll probably be fine, unless we fail to do something at the other end of the spectrum."
Serious resucitation: "Did you purchase your home during the bubble years? Have values for similar properties in your neighborhood declined by 50% or more? Has quality of life in your neighborhood deteriorated as the result of a large number of foreclosures? Do you need to sell your house soon? Are you thinking of walking away if things don't get better? You need help, regardless of your income, and so does your neighborhood. You may qualify for a payment-share plan of up to 50%, if you are willing to stay in your house for at least five years. The benefit will be taxable as regular income, and depending on your situation, you may be required to sign a good neighbor agreement. You may be required to share profits with the government when you sell your house in future. (There's no need to refinance--and due to new restrictions and a few technical things like redlining, you wouldn't qualify for a new mortgage anyway, so what's the point?) Our goal is to keep your house occupied and stabilize your family and your neighborhood."
Obviously, there's a set of algorithm questions and a treatment plan for mortgages between these two extremes, but I think you get the idea--let's find and group the questions that allow us to group these mortgages appropriately. Then, what are the treatments that stem from the answers? (Because the problem is the mortgages--it's not the houses themselves, and even in cases where the customers/brokers screwed up, the need to provide treatment and prevent spread supersedes the hope of somehow punishing the wrongdoers.)
Please contribute! My only request is that you provide fact-based/evidence based ideas, and try not to focus too much on the moral aspect. I'll be following comments and will post what we come up with. And if any of the greater TPM lights (Baker, Reich, Warren?) want to take this cup from me, I'd be fine with that...
Thanks,
erica





Anyone?
December 8, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
If it's any consolation, about half of my own posts go by with only my own replies to them.
It appears that anything too 'theoretical' turns traffic off, while gossip about who the next NY Senator will be generates enormous interest. Not that the latter isn't interesting, but isn't there more at stake than personalities?
I am suffering right now from an illness, so my comments on the 'disease model' will be necessarily brief, but I think your quarantine of the 'moral aspect' of the mortgage crisis is on the right track. I recall in particular (from an earlier post) your distinction between charity, and social/economic solutions; I have not seen anyone make much of that particular distinction before.
I would encourage you to keep writing on these topics, despite the lack of feedback at present. Hopefully, it will come.
December 8, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks diachronic. I just hope the team gets a handle on this issue soon.
December 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've been very busy this weekend and just caught your blog. But I’m sure glad; you're keeping the attention on this problem.
It’s a cause worth fighting for, but I’m afraid it's like everything else, ignored by the people. I don't know if it's apathy.
I would sure have more confidence, as in consumer confidence, if it were addressed properly. Until it is, till the day I go to the grave I have witnessed the corruption and self serving nature of LOVE OF MONEY
(1 Timothy 6:9-10) 9 However, those who are determined to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and many senseless and hurtful desires, which plunge men into destruction and ruin. 10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things, and by reaching out for this love some have been led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with many pains.
It will be my goal to inform others of the trap set by these crooks and their enablers. Tell everyone you know, maybe together we can inform all generations, thereby affecting the profitability of the banks.
(Hebrews 13:5) 5 Let [YOUR] manner of life be free of the love of money, while YOU are content with the present things. . .
Learning to be content, I’ll have my revenge on these crooks.
Jesus told an illustration: “The land of a certain rich man produced well. Consequently, he began reasoning within himself, saying: ‘What shall I do, now that I have nowhere to gather my crops?’ So he said: ‘I will do this: I will tear down my storehouses and build bigger ones, and there I will gather all my grain and all my good things, and I will say to my soul: “Soul, you have many good things laid up for many years; take your ease, eat, drink, enjoy yourself.”’ But God said to him: ‘Unreasonable one, this night they are demanding your soul from you. Who, then, is to have the things you stored up?’ So it goes with the man that lays up treasure for himself but is not rich toward God.”—Luke 12:16-21.
Maybe we are witnessing the demise of the financial system, as its conduct is irreprehensible.
That is why I am so peeved that my Government gave them MY money to keep them afloat.
It's encouraging to see Bank of America is getting called to the mat on the situation in Illinois.
Bankers and crooks should be synonymous.
December 8, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I would sure have more confidence, as in consumer confidence, if it were addressed properly."
You and the rest of the country.
I'll try to present another call for specific ideas tomorrow...thanks all!
December 8, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
"In addition, we know that the problem is relatively contained to certain lower-income, high-turnover areas, as well as neighborhoods that developed in the bubble years,"
This is absolutely a false statement. With 10,000 mortgage foreclosures DAILY the mortgage crisis is by no means limited in any way to "certain lower-income, high-turnover areas, as well as neighborhoods that developed in the bubble years,". That's preposterous and totally untrue.
The mortgage crisis is very widespread (uh, that's the problem---if it were indeed limited it could be more easily contained) and impacting neighborhoods all across the country regardless of the income level or form of mortgage. Some areas are worse than others, but to claim it somehow only affects certain kinds of people and neighborhoods is as wrong as wrong can be.
December 8, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oleeb I have great respect for you and meant nothing derogatory in using the word "certain" but I can see how you could read it that way and I apologize for my tin ear on that point. I will clarify for future postings and thank you for bringing it up.
Here is what I meant to say: foreclosure is a widespread problem, but foreclosures tend to cluster in low-income neighborhoods because that's where subprime mortgages were most aggressively sold and snapped up; in neighborhoods with high turnover--where many people transfer for work; and in neighborhoods which developed during the bubble years. You're right that it's hit people from all walks of life, but there are clusters. From an "epidemic" management perspective, this is bad because some neighborhoods are really hurting, but good because appropriate responses in those areas will have a big stabilizing effect. (I would even be willing to go out on a limb and say that a really robust response to the problem in the hardest-hit neighborhoods, especially those which are also middle class or low income, will stabilize the entire market so that patient homeowners in the less-damaged neighborhoods will be able to cure their situation on their own. That's why I'm all about payment-sharing and plenty of support for the hardest-hit neighborhoods--doing the right thing there will make a big difference to the rest of the country.)
December 8, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like this 'plan' and I worry that it is being considered but won't be played on cable news because the news bite will be too long. There have been some CNN shows dedicated to this issue.
I also would add that many people are losing their homes because of adjustable rate mortgages that suckered people in with a low initial rate that ballooned into a payment later on that could not be met by the owners. Maybe I just missed it in your questionaire.
December 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope--I omitted it. I will add it because it's an important part of the algorithm. The higher payment makes (made?) for a moving target for the homeowner rather than a fixed one.
December 8, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great!!! I assume you have an engine to get this 'plan' out through channels that reach Congress and the Executive. I really like this.
December 8, 2008 11:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I could use some help with the engine. I've written my senator to no avail, and talked my face off to my elected rep who is new at the job and therefore doesn't have that much clout. I've talked with a reporter who is trying to do stories on the issue but can't get ordinary people affected by the crisis to give their names because they're too mortified by what has happened to them. I've also contacted Elizabeth Warren but am not sure what, if anything, she will do with the info.
So, it's up to us, really. What I am hoping is that we'll be able to put together something pretty comprehensive and sort of "peer-reviewed," that will be simple enough for ordinary people to understand but won't be brushed off at higher levels as too simplistic to work.
(The thing is that at the "higher levels" they don't seem to have much of a grasp on how ideas will be experienced by the people they're supposedly trying to help.)
I hope you will help me keep working on this plan and share our progress with your representatives.
December 9, 2008 12:58 AM | Reply | Permalink