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Chicken Little and the Great Stimulus Debate


[In which it is pointed out that the sky is not, in fact, falling, and that rumors of the fall of the American Republic, economy, and way of life have been greatly exaggerated.

Often, on purpose.]

It is fashionable in wonkish circles now to compare the present difficulties of the American economy to the Great Depression of the 1930's.  There are a few decent reasons for this (largely that things have been going so darned well since the 1930's that we have little else to compare it to if we want to imply that things are bad, and many people do), a few halfway decent reasons (it's attention getting!), and a few less savory (See Below).

The champion of the breed is probably Paul Krugman, who finds it difficult to complete sentences without using the words "depression", "Roosevelt", and "stimulus" these days.  Krugman is a great economist, but he's also a committed ideologue.  Very much like Milton Friedman, in that way.

Here's the thing.  Paul is interested in expanding government (he calls himself a progressive).  So fiscal stimulus, for him, isn't a means to an end, it is the end.  When he talks about expansion of employment due to government spending, he's talking about ideological victory.  Of course I'm not bashing Paul's ideology, nor are liberals solely responsible for the crying of wolf over the economic situation.  They just happen to be in charge right now, so they have control over the policy levers and buttons.  The point is that economic crisis permits much more far reaching and outlandish policy ideas to be considered (imagine proposing national public make-work programs under Clinton).  It's a great opportunity for anyone (anyone!) with a partisan or special interest axe to grind.

The facts are different.  Krugman himself notes that unemployment is 7%ish, and cites rhetoric from Obama that it might get into double digits.  Unemployment in the Depression was 20% or more.  In France, 7% unemployment would make policymakers heroes.  We are, at present, in the midst of a painful and ugly economic downturn, which appears as if it might be as bad as the 1981-1982 recession brought on by Paul Volcker's fight with the Demon Inflation.

It could still get worse.  2009 is going to be tough.  But there are reasons to think that the free fall is over.  CalculatedRisk has observed meaningful improvement in financial markets.  Home prices have fallen back to relatively reasonable levels in the bubble areas (though they have further to go).  And since this is our first real recession since 1991, we ought to expect a little bit of ugly for putting it off so long.

So when someone tells you the sky is falling, look around.  The situation is not that bad, and there isn't any indication that it will be.  Look at that person's agenda, too, and how they might have an angle, some hoped for benefit from your panic. 


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Fear and panic sell more than rational thought. Unfortunately, both fear and panic have a major impact on our economy. I believe we need some fixes to the system, but I'm not gonna fear the worst until I'm eyeing my cats hungrily.

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According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that 7% is the, "Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers."

But the, "Total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers," is up to 12.5%

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You beat me to it, Donal. Unemployment is more correctly estimated to be at 12.5 to 16.5%, as of November. December and January are going to be even worse.

It's a depression, start saying it now, because pretty soon the Republicans are and it's going to go like this "Bush started a recession, but Obama pushed it into a Depression". So my advice, start calling it the Bush/Republican Depression right now, otherwise others will use it against us.

Oh, and by pretty much every metric we are in Depression territory- almost every large bank is insolvent, unemployment is high and getting higher, income disparity is at an all time high, the housing market is in free fall, deflation is on the rise, people are not buying anything. I live on a major bar-hopping street in Minneapolis- it's been like a dead zone since October- even on weekends. I've never seen anything like it.

It's a Depression.

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Oh, and if you want to blame the "panic" on somebody- try your elected officials in October who said the sky was falling- because that's when this recession crossed over into consumer's stopping their consumption- and that's what really turned the deflationary screws.

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I have to agree with the comments above. This country has been in free-fall since the 1970s and it really picked up speed each decade since.

For the vast majority of working Americans, we have been in a lingering depression since the 80s at least. People now work two and three jobs to get the same income as they did with one job before we shipped all those jobs to China.

I think we have run into the limits of standard economic terms to describe what has been a lingering malaise quite unlike anything that has come before and still requires drastic action to reverse, both short- and long-term.

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