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Morality: Progressives Attack Afghanistan


Get Afghanistan Right aims to ensure that progressive voices are well-heard in the debate on US policy in the region.  Looks good to me:

For years, many progressives have argued that the real war on terrorism is in Afghanistan as a rhetorical bludgeon to argue against the Iraq war, and relatively few criticized Obama's plans for escalation. ... [big snip] ...  Currently, Get Afghanistan Right doesn't take a position on Afghanistan beyond arguing that the troop increase is a poor course of action.
... which brings me to the title point:

The arguments hosted on the website itself contended that ...  and that Afghanistan itself is no longer a just war.
"a just war"?  I am one of apparently few who supported attacks on AQ camps and leaders but were not happy with the methods Bush used to get us into Afg..  It was never a just war to me.  Afghanistan was and remains a "justified war" at best, another costly and largely failing military adventure otherwise. 

While I do often appreciate the notion of "kill two birds with one stone", the maxim of course assumes that it is right to kill each bird and that the stone is the way to achieve the ends.  While it is easy to point out the flaws of the Taliban, we must ask *ourselves* about the differences between justification and justice.

The important moral difference is that justice is moral and non-partisan.

The important practical difference is that the US with wide support from NATO and others used AQ as an excuse for what has been called elsewhere, "regime change".  The resistant Taliban were removed militarily, Karzai and Company sorta replaced them, Bin Laden and other leaders were effectively allowed to escape, and after about 8 years of being mildly terrorized by Terror Alert Status warnings here we are hearing about Taliban resurgence, with any pretense that getting Bin Laden was priority one now long officially abandoned, and a nominally progressive if pragmatically centrist new President talking about military buildups.

Afghanistan is just another nation building exercise done poorly and at great expense, built on a failure of will (I won't go so far in this post as to call it "evil").  True progressives need to be clear on this as they wage political "battles" to offer the new Administration the correct open doors its campaign said it needed.











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Afghanistan is just another nation building exercise done poorly and at great expense....

Good point!

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Nation building, at best, is correct. The arrogance of the US people, those in charge and those who support nation building, is astounding.

Why don't we really bring the troops home instead of having them in different countries around the world, even friendly countries? Why doesn't anyone talk about that? The money being spent overseas should be spent at home.

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