Birthers v Truthers
This is bit experimental, prompted I suppose by Josh's musings on birtherism, let's see how it goes.
If we were to identify the extreme conspiracy theorists of the Bush era, the 9/11 Truthers would surely come out on top. They were a large enough group to be noticed, arguably sufficient in number to be influential, and they presented some pretty outlandish things based on allegedly sound evidence.
Or more to the point, absent a complete public record of what happened on 9/11, these were people who were utterly committed to fill in the gaps and construct a narrative that would end up destroying a government.
The Birthers seem to be cut from the same cloth - and this is notwithstanding the fact some of the same people, like Philip Berg, are on both crazy trains. The point is the Birthers, like the Truthers, see a gap in the official record and are filling it in in such a way that it could end up destroying a presidency.
I am not wanting to draw parallels in terms of the gravity of the conspiracies or the merits of the accusations, my point is to juxtapose the methods of the two groups. Which is, as I said, to fill in perceived gaps in the official record in a way to maximize political advantage. I do fully accept that there are also true believers out there, who aren't looking at this quite as intensely through a political lens, but the movements have been and are being driven by political objectives as well, and explains why they develop momentum even absent decent evidence of anything.
And here's the rub - how often were Democratic politicians, even those far from the mainstream (Kucinich, McKinney), ever drawn into embracing the Truthers? The nearest I recall anyone getting was Howard Dean - and this is a mighty, mighty stretch - when in talking about the 9/11 Commission he made a typically accurate point that government secrecy fed conspiracy theorists. Can't remember anyone else getting remotely close to even alluding to the Truthers the way Dean did once or twice when he was trying to illustrate another more important issue.
Was there ever a major Democratic politician compelled to defend Truther allegations? Ever a major Democratic politician needing to distance himself/herself from Truthers or comments he/she made in support of Trutherism?
It is still early days with Birtherism, but is it fair to say the movement is already closer to mainstream Republicanism than Trutherism was ever to even fringe Democrats?
Just speculating a little further, imagine the Democratic Party had gotten remotely close to the Truthers... can't imagine that could ever have turned out well, and yet it remains to be seen if the GOP can put daylight between itself and Birtherism.













"The point is the Birthers, like the Truthers, see a gap in the official record and are filling it in in such a way that it could end up destroying a presidency."
- I think you're exactly right here. It's clearly exploiting a gap for the political advantage and I would be VERY surprised if it goes anywhere far.
At the same time, I found the unusually high amount of crass language Josh Marshall used in his musings to be notable. And I can't help but think that his concluding thought is disingenious:
"Their thinking seems to be that since Obama's mother was just shy of her 19th birthday at the time of his birth, she couldn't meet the "five after the age of fourteen" requirement, thus necessitating rushing home to get the phony certification of stateside birth TO MAKE THE EVENTUAL RUN FOR PRESIDENT possible. "
It's obvious to anyone that nobody would predict with such accuracy that Obama would one day run for presidency.
However, it is entirely possible that Obama's mother was simply preparing to avoid or prevail in any potential custody dispute with Obama's father, no delusions about the presidency, thank you very much.
So I think it is possible to come up with a birther theory that would at least appear reasonable.
But I haven't been able to come up with an equally reasonable theory as to why Obama wouldn't end this once and for all - except to think that any revelation at this point would raise more questions than it solves.
July 27, 2009 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like your thinking but I am afraid I have a whole lot more respect for the truthers. I mean have you seen Zeitgeist? They may be batshit crazy but that's some damn interesting stuff. It takes some real creativity and sheer intelligence to come up with those theories
Fake birth certificate= African conspiracy to take over America? Give me a fucking break. That's kindergarten material.
Still I suppose the comparison you make does tell you something about the respective sides. (left = smart with wussy leaders; right = balls out stupidity).
July 27, 2009 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink