Lucy got some splainin' to do
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There was a great exchange on Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, an episode of Star Trek, the original series with Shatner, Nimoy, etc. While justifying his racial prejudice, Commissioner Bele, a half-white, half-black humanoid played by Frank Gorshin, sarcastically challenges the Federation's science.
"I once heard that on some of your planets, people believe they are descended from... apes."
Spock might have replied, "We believe that humans and apes share a common ancestor." But being only half-human, he more elegantly said:
"The actual theory is that all lifeforms evolved from the lower levels to the more advanced stages."
Today's announcement, fifteen years in the making, changes neither of those statements, but suggests that our common ancestor resembled man more than ape, and that great apes, currently unsuccessful competitors to humans, have diverged physically from primitive man more than we have. In other words, considering primitive humans to be ape-like Alley Oops isn't quite right.

WSJ: Fossils Shed New Light on Human Origins
After 15 years of rumors, researchers in the U.S. and Ethiopia on Thursday made public fossils from a 4.4-million-year-old human forebearer they say reveals that our earliest ancestors were more modern than scholars assumed and deepens the evolutionary gulf separating humankind from today's apes and chimpanzees.
The highlight of the extensive fossil trove is a female skeleton a million years older than the iconic bones of Lucy, the primitive female figure that has long symbolized humankind's beginnings.
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"They are not what one would have predicted," said anthropologist Bernard Wood at George Washington University. Although the differences between humans, apes and chimps today are legion, we all shared a common ancestor six million years or so ago. These fossils suggest that creature-still undiscovered--resembled a chimp much less than researchers have always believed.
In fact, so many traits in chimps and apes today are missing in these early hominids that researchers now question the notion that modern chimps and apes embody vestiges of our primate past, retaining primitive traits once shared by our ancestors. "We all thought the ancestral animal would look more like a chimp," explained Yale University anthropologist Andrew Hill.
Instead, the new finds show that what seems most ancient about nonhuman primates today-such as canine fangs, long limbs with hooked fingers meant for swinging through trees and hands designed for knuckle-walking--may actually be the product of more recent development, the researchers said.
"It is the chimps and gorillas that have been evolving like crazy in terms of limbs and locomotion, not hominids," said Kent State University anthropologist Owen Lovejoy, a senior scientist on the research team. "We took a different tack. We went social."
















The branching took place earlier than thought, that's for sure.
And humans clearly branched again - how else to explain both normal people and Glenn Beck?
October 1, 2009 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Homo Mediacircus
October 1, 2009 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
see my comment to ct below
October 1, 2009 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Glenn's a big druggie I've been hearing. Like Limbaugh.
October 1, 2009 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and of course, Bush had an alcohol dependency. Great crowd.
October 1, 2009 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rec'd for the title because I enjoyed knowing what was coming having already read the articles.
However:
This has always been incorrect. Most people, even some scientists, seem to think that evolution is about "the ascent of man". In fact, evolution is really a study on the adaptability of living creatures to a physical environment.
Kurt Vonnegut accurately portrayed (and parodied) this fact in his novel Galápagos.
The problem is that most people follow the 19th century view of taxonomy, which was based on anatomy and not genetics. When viewed by the more accurate genetics view -- which is more accurate because it's intimately tied into mutation -- the clearer picture of evolution becomes apparently.
Indeed, I suspect the only reason why this article is "news" is that it forces lay people to re-evaluate their understanding of what evolution means. However, I don't have any great hopes that the MSM will help that process into enlightenment as it's more of a story by saying that "evolution is being turned upside down."
October 1, 2009 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another book on my list of things to read. But, frankly, you are correct. If something is alive today, then it is a winner. It adapted, bred, and is alive now--that's all that evolution asks for.
October 1, 2009 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
And then we kill it off:
http://www.earthsendangered.com/search-groups2.asp
October 1, 2009 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unless we try to bring it back, however!
Of course, as the linked article goes on about, it isn't as easy as they thought....
BTW, Donal, that was a depressing website. Maybe it's time to give tor me to the Nature Conservancy or something again.
October 1, 2009 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
"for me to give" Yikes, what am I smoking?
October 1, 2009 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have you been watching the Hellstrom Chronicles again?
October 1, 2009 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Population bottlenecking" has to figure into this somewhere. Do you have any expertise to share on this possibility?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottleneck#Humans
October 1, 2009 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no expertise, only interest, and this term is new to me, so thanks.
But at first glance, population bottlenecking seems to have more to do with natural selection than evolution in the sense that either natural selection or a random natural catastrophe lowers the population significantly.
October 1, 2009 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is a fascinating topic, enjoy.
October 1, 2009 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not sure what you mean in your comment. Can you elaborate?
October 1, 2009 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not really, near extinction events would inherently cause differentiations in genetic drift, mutations and variances from evolutionary threads.
"Population bottlenecks" is a topic that has always interested me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXn9HJR65UI
October 1, 2009 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean when a population crashes and only a few individuals are left to repopulate? Like the change in the gene pool if Sarah Palin and Glen Beck were the only humans left alive?
October 2, 2009 7:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
EXACTLY, in 200,000 years some one could dig up the fossils of more highly evolved humans, who could walk and chew gum at the same time, and would not be able to make an evolutionary link with their present day beings.
October 2, 2009 8:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought the "news" was that the fossils challenged the theory of bipedalism evolving in the savanna environment?
October 1, 2009 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha, I guess they'll have to rename the aquatic ape theory.
October 1, 2009 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not exactly:
It's that second part of the quote that will confuse those well-meaning "evolutionists" (scientific lay people) who will worry that the theory of evolution is now somehow "in error".
It's a subtle but important point - because you can bet that creationists will use it to show how science isn't "always right". And of course it isn't. But the point is that you don't "believe" in science, you simply work through facts upon facts and constantly refine your view. No belief in anything except actual evidence is required.
May I suggest you view this excellent 4 video program that illustrates this exceptionally well as applied to global warming?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo
The bottom line: if you want to become educated by science, the MSM (and many blogs) are a poor way of doing it. The best way is to consult an actual scientist!
October 1, 2009 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
You make a good point, but I would say that it isn't about "adaptability" of the species, but rather the study of the influence of the environment and breeding choices over time. Sometimes, mutations over time can be shown to provide a species a greater chance of survival in the environment or passing on of the genes. But sometimes the changes have no impact, but rather pop up and just stick around in the genetic pool since there is nothing actively filtering it out. It is just that we tend to focus on the changes that allowed to species to survive better.
Did becoming bipedal actually make us more adapted to our environment, or did it just change the way we interacted with the environment. Or to put it another way: had we stayed on all fours, would we have survived just fine?
Not all the changes, even the seemingly spectacular ones, had a survive or perish quality to them. Not all things can be reduced to utilitarian functionality. Sometime nature has a way of just having fun.
October 1, 2009 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are those creatures that do defy the laws of evolution. Most of them, however, spend the vast majority of their time in the capitol or in some radio broadcasting booth.
C
October 1, 2009 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great. This will fuel the creationists with fresh evidence that the "theory" of evolution is wrong. Just what we need.
If only they can move that decimal place now. You know, from 6 million years to 6 thousand.
-- ARG
October 1, 2009 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meant to have air quotes around "evidence", too.
-- ARG
October 1, 2009 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your reaction is correct which is why I posted my comments on this thread. All one has to do is get ready with the counterarguments now and have them in your arsenal.
October 1, 2009 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The intelligent design folks will now say that this proves that science is edging closer to their view that man and dinosaurs lived at the same time. hahahaha
October 1, 2009 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, laugh it off...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP1yjS2vbi4&feature=related
October 1, 2009 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The correct response is that it proves there is no "intelligent design" because what we see as naturally increasing qualities (swimming to land motion on 4's to land motion on 2's) is an artifice by us, not nature.
October 1, 2009 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
regressive evolution, wherein traits are lost, is as integral to the process as the development of new adaptations.
i can't find the study now, i read it like 10 years ago, but some evolutionary biologists were studying a fast-gestating fish species.
they kept one group in the dark, and one in the light. after two years, they had a significant number of pale, blind fish in the dark tank.
that's right, creationists. evolution has been effected in the lab. and it's fast
where?
October 1, 2009 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
but, but, i thought ontogeny recapitulated phylogeny.
from the simpson's wiki
October 1, 2009 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a neat story Donal. I liked this a lot. One million years after Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.
Great post.
I do not know exactly why, but stories like this elate me to no end.
WHERE DID WE COME FROM?
Always a fun question and this is a fun post.
October 1, 2009 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
WHERE ARE WE GOING?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUSYb3igXzI
October 1, 2009 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe its the cheap whiskey I get once a month,but this song makes me laugh so loud. hahahahaahah
When I was a preteen, I loved this song.
Our little 'old' downtown is six blocks from here. I go there for my walk now three times a day. There are four or five men, my age, who evidently have more money than I. But I will see them sitting out side of the bars, day and night, smoking a cig while holding their head in their hand. They are not even begging for alms. Just a pure picture of despair.
And I hear this song, and all I can do is laugh. Still I bookmarked it. hahahahah
October 1, 2009 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
When you're alone
And life is making you lonely,
You can always go downtown
October 1, 2009 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like uptown.
October 1, 2009 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's cause you are an uptown bird, living in an uptown world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F-nt7aC_JQ
October 2, 2009 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's worth considering what the words to these songs really mean...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzUICBMQBNU
-- ARG
October 2, 2009 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The beauty, the value of village life -- very small, known cast of characters, predictable....now seen as the positive it is rather than the source of ennui perceived in youth.
October 1, 2009 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
The key thing to learn from all of this is the more we know the more apparent it becomes there remains far more we don't know. Its invaluable to keep that in mind as we look at things in our daily lives. For every answer there has to be more questions arise. Stopping this sequence inevitably means life stops.
October 2, 2009 7:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
One thing that is interesting is that humans are the only ape living outside of jungles. A hypothesis to explain this is that there may have been many strains of homanid competing against homosapiens and that we exterminated all of them that didn't stay in the forests. Apes are still endangered by human predation. In that view apes that had or developed limbs well suited for staying out of reach of humans up in trees would have a survival advantage.
October 2, 2009 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
When I was a kid, we watched Sands of the Kalahari, a great flick in which six people are stranded near a South African desert oasis inhabited by troop of Chacma Baboons. I looked it up and they do range from very grassy areas to the Kalahari desert.
Heh. Says here it was supposed to star Burton & Taylor instead of Stuart Whitman & Susannah York:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059675/
October 2, 2009 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
from the National Geo article:
'One provocative answer to that question—originally proposed by Lovejoy in the early 1980s and refined now in light of the Ardipithecus discoveries—attributes the origin of bipedality to another trademark of humankind: monogamous sex.
Virtually all apes and monkeys, especially males, have long upper canine teeth—formidable weapons in fights for mating opportunities.
But Ardipithecus appears to have already embarked on a uniquely human evolutionary path, with canines reduced in size and dramatically "feminized" to a stubby, diamond shape, according to the researchers. Males and female specimens are also close to each other in body size.
Lovejoy sees these changes as part of an epochal shift in social behavior: Instead of fighting for access to females, a male Ardipithecus would supply a "targeted female" and her offspring with gathered foods and gain her sexual loyalty in return.
To keep up his end of the deal, a male needed to have his hands free to carry home the food. Bipedalism may have been a poor way for Ardipithecus to get around, but through its contribution to the "sex for food" contract, it would have been an excellent way to bear more offspring. And in evolution, of course, more offspring is the name of the game (more: "Did Early Humans Start Walking for Sex?").'
(not so much about the savannah-grasslands?)
October 2, 2009 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
With no footnotes to lead you to the sources, if my memory serves me there are two studies that relate to sex and keepign around "smart' genes. One wa an observation of baboons who, everyone knows, are "ruled" by the alpha males. So why have baboons not developed to become more muscular?
When the alphas are not around, the clever baboons are breeding with the females. The alpha believes, although I do not really know what it thinks, that all the young are theirs.
Studies have also shown that, while undereducated men appear to have more emphasis on sex and sexuality, college educated men have more partners in their lifetime then those who did not attend schools of higher education.
I think this relates?!?! Somehow?!?
October 2, 2009 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gadzukes, it beats me. I just liked that about the switch to bi-pedal possibly being due to carrying food for their honeys, and becoming monogamous. Too fun.
All I really care about is I want to be a kissin' cousin to gorillas. I really heart gorillas. Baboons are icky, all that red hair!!! Chimps, okey-dokey. But please, please, don't make my dna go further away from gorillas!!
October 2, 2009 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Females don't like alpha males, "with too many muscles." Actually, I'll bet those baboons are plenty strong already. Perhaps greater musculature would demand a more consistent food supply than what is available, so natural selection weeds out the WWF baboons during lean times.
October 2, 2009 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
"We took a different tack. We went social."
Now this gives a lot more meaning to "United We Stand"!!!
The thing is, the "We" to which those who would have this motto on their person or their vehicle, does not include as many people as some would hop. "We" only refers to the "real Americans".
October 2, 2009 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink