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Dumping the Sick


I can't add much to this Democracy Now piece on a former insurance PR executive who has left his career to campaign for better health care. There's a video at the site.

AMY GOODMAN: What do you mean, "dumping the sick"?

WENDELL POTTER: Two different ways that they do this. In the individual insurance market, we've seen quite a bit of news coverage, especially in California. When insurance companies who are active in the individual market--and this means when you don't get your insurance coverage through your workplace, about the only option you have is to buy it directly from an insurance company, and usually it's much more costly than it is through--if you buy it or get it through your employer. Once you file a claim, if you are unfortunate enough to get very sick or have an accident and file a claim, you very often will find that your insurance company will go back and look at your application to see if there might be a chance that you either didn't disclose something that you knew about in the past or inadvertently didn't disclose something or might not have known about a pre-existing condition. They'll use that as evidence that you were committing fraud, and they'll revoke your policy, or they call it "rescinding" your policy, leaving you holding the bag, making you completely responsible for all the medical bills. That's one way that they dump people who need insurance the most.

Another is, if you are employed, particularly with a small business, and your insurance--your employer gets his or her insurance through one of the large insurers, and if just one person in your company files a claim that the underwriters think is too high, if it skews what they think is the appropriate medical experience or claim experience, when that business comes up for renewal, they very likely will jack up the rates so much that your employer has no alternative but to leave and leave you and all of your coworkers without insurance. Either that or they may cut benefits or try to shop for coverage somewhere else. But the end result is, you may find yourself dumped into the rolls and the ranks of the uninsured.

AMY GOODMAN: Was there a seminal moment when you were head of communications at CIGNA that really made you start to look? And how were you isolated there from, well, most people in the country, you know, who were increasingly talking about the massive problems of healthcare and access to it and being cutting off, the dumping of the sick, as you put it?

WENDELL POTTER: I was very isolated, along with most insurance company executives who deal with numbers all the time--profit margins and medical loss ratios and earnings per share and how many millions of members you have, or things like that. It's just--they're just numbers. And I didn't really associate that with real people as much as I should and as much as most insurance company executives should, until I went to visit my relatives in Tennessee.

And while I was there, I happened to learn about a healthcare expedition that was being held at a nearby town across the state line in Virginia. And I was intrigued, borrowed my dad's car and drove up to Wise County to see what was going on there. And this expedition was being held at the Wise County fairgrounds, and it was being put on by this group called Remote Area Medical that got its start several years ago taking volunteer doctors from this country to remote villages in South America, where people really don't have any access to medical care. The founder realized pretty soon, though, that the need in this country is very, very great, and he started holding similar expeditions in rural communities throughout the country. And this one was nearby. I decided to check it out.

I didn't have any idea what to expect, but when I walked through the fairground gates, it was just absolutely overwhelming. What I saw were people who were lined up. It was raining that day. They were lined up in the rain by the hundreds, waiting to get care that was being donated by doctors and nurses and dentists and other caregivers, and they were being treated in animal stalls. Volunteers had come to disinfect the animal stalls. They also had set up tents. It looked like a MASH unit. It looked like this could have been something that was happening in a war-torn country, and war refugees were there to get their care. It was just unbelievable, and it just drove it home to me, maybe for the first time, that we were talking about real human beings and not just numbers.

AMY GOODMAN: And so, what did you do with that?

WENDELL POTTER: Well, it took me a while to just really process it. I came back to work. I knew at that time that I couldn't continue doing what I was doing. It just didn't seem like it was ethically the right thing for me to do. My first career, I was a journalist, and I had been in PR, though, for many years. And I came to realize that much of what I was doing now--or then--in my PR career was just the opposite of what I was trying to do as a journalist. But still, you know, I had mortgage payments. I had other bills to pay. And it was just--it was difficult to work through this and figure out what do I do and how do I--what do I do next?

But then, you know, just two or three weeks later, I was having to fly to a meeting, and I often would fly on one of the corporate jets. And while I was doing that, I was served my lunch on a gold-rimmed plate, was given gold-plated flatware to eat my lunch. I was sitting in a very spacious and luxurious leather chair. And it just dawned on me for the first time. I had done this many times. But because of the Wise County experience, I just realized for the first time that someone's premiums were helping me to travel that way and were paying for my lunch on gold-trimmed china. And then I thought about those men and women that I had seen in Wise County, undoubtedly not having any idea that this is the way that insurance executives lived and how premium dollars were being spent. And that got me closer to making an ultimate decision that I had to leave.


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Thank you so much, Donal, for sharing this interview. At this time, when I am rethinking my entire attitude about the health care issue in this country, it has been an enormous help to me. In a way, I feel like Wendall Potter and I am leaving my old thoughts behind and going on to supporting single payer.

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Amen, Mum.

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Donal: One of the "best" freelance assignments I ever had, in terms of cash for effort, was to document the art collection of a major insurance company. I was paid ridiculous sums of money to spend two weeks with an Architectural Digest photographer setting up, lighting and photographing each and every painting, each piece of sculpture, each manuscript that was displayed. Not, mind you, in the lobby or public areas of the corporate headquarters, but rather, on the executive floor -- in individual executive offices, in the executive dining room, library, conference room and -- get ready -- in the executive bathrooms and on the executive planes.
One day I asked the CEO's secretary why the corporation was spending so lavishly for this documentation. Her response?
" Oh, ___ Corp is not paying for this, really. Individual premiums were just raised, and so this is kind of a high five self-congratulations exercise.... Btw, I know you'll be working late tonight; may I order the chef to prepare a late night dinner for your crew?"

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How 'bout that! Their own personal little Vatican City, huh? The gods of health care, with the power of life and death, the ability to choose who will receive the blessings of vitality and who not, have an art colletion for their own personal enjoyment in the executive heavens of their corporate tower. No wonder they are so adamantly opposed to single payer, nevermind the public option. Do people really expect them to relieve themselves in a room without the highest level of aesthetics? How can you possibly considering trading that for a pap smear?!?!

It is shameful we hesitate to respond to these questions. Is our concern for our neighbor so far removed from our fear of change? Please, if you are prone to call America a great country, STOP! There is no greatness here, no glory here, not even humanity.

These are maggots feasting on the wounds of the infirm, nothing more.

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Gregor, I'll be thinking about that art collection on August 15th when my current employer-subsidized insurance policy runs out. (Too bad I didn't save that long ago freelance fee to pay, now, for the staggering cost of an individual policy. )

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Anything by Amy Goodman deserves attention. Rec!

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Thanks for this. Highly rec'd!!

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Donal, this is the guy that made such a big splash when he testified in front of the Senate's Commerce, Science and Transportation committee on 6/24/09.

His written statement to the committee.


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If the insurance company has made a decision based on information provided to them at the time they accepted the application, if they decide to dump a patient, do they then return all the money they have received from the formerly insured? Why are they allowed to retain those funds and be rewarded for their "error"? In essence, if the termination is based on old info, then they should never have offered coverage. In a very real sense, they never did. They simply took the money when they could get it for nothing and then then abandoned the insured once it might cost them something. So why are these not parasites?

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In this country there are the masses who get by on a median household income of $47,845 according to the Census bureau. Then there is the elite class that provides for gold rimmed plates on private jets for a few while everyone else suffers. Of course, due to the criminal irresponsibility of the elite, that median household income is falling dramatically and the common people will have to make do on even less. It is not simply unethical, it is immoral and sinful how we allow this situation to continue where so many suffer in order for so few to be completely self-indulgent.

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It is not simply unethical, it is immoral and sinful how we allow this situation to continue where so many suffer in order for so few to be completely self-indulgent.

America! America!
Land of a few rich oligarchs
God shed his forgiveness on thee
as the poor can not!

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Thanks for the recs and comments. I notice the anti-healthcare bill sockpuppets haven't touched this one.

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