You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Terrorist. John McCain and surrogates equate Bill Ayers with Al Qaeda and Bin Laden. These people are on a whole different level.
Did Ayers kill innocent people? No. If Ayers is such a dangerous terrorist, why is he a teacher in a university and not in jail? Why wasn't he executed for his crimes? Oh, right, it's because he never killed anybody.
Comparing the bombing of empty government buildings to 9/11 is disgusting. Ayers, though misguided, was fighting for the freedoms of Americans. Fighting against government tyranny.
Bin Laden on the other hand is fighting us, the American people. He demonstrated this very clearly when he killed 2000 of us.
John McCain talks a lot about Bill Ayers but hasn't said a word about Al Qaeda or Bin Laden in months. The only recent mention at all was a rebuttal to Obama in the second presidential debate, when he pledged to kill Bin Laden.
Therefore one of two things must be true:
1) John McCain thinks government buildings are more important than American people.
or
2) John McCain is pulling a stunt and is putting his campaign before the American people.
Either way, John McCain is screwing us all.
Did Ayers kill innocent people? No. If Ayers is such a dangerous terrorist, why is he a teacher in a university and not in jail? Why wasn't he executed for his crimes? Oh, right, it's because he never killed anybody.
Comparing the bombing of empty government buildings to 9/11 is disgusting. Ayers, though misguided, was fighting for the freedoms of Americans. Fighting against government tyranny.
Bin Laden on the other hand is fighting us, the American people. He demonstrated this very clearly when he killed 2000 of us.
John McCain talks a lot about Bill Ayers but hasn't said a word about Al Qaeda or Bin Laden in months. The only recent mention at all was a rebuttal to Obama in the second presidential debate, when he pledged to kill Bin Laden.
Therefore one of two things must be true:
1) John McCain thinks government buildings are more important than American people.
or
2) John McCain is pulling a stunt and is putting his campaign before the American people.
Either way, John McCain is screwing us all.
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I'm not necessarily taking issue with your argument, but I would recommend including the facts as they are, and then disputing the implications.
From a New York Times article about Ayers and the group he helped form:
"A 1970 pipe bomb in San Franscisco attributed to the group killed one police office and severely hurt another... And in 1981, in an armed robbery of a Brinks armored truck in NY that involever Weather Underground members (not Ayers), two police officers and a guard were killed... in his memoir, Ayers was evasive as to which bombings he had a hand in."
October 21, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't know about those, thanks for the new info. I'm a youngster, wasn't alive at the time.
It still doesn't change anything in my mind. Ayers intent was not to hurt people, I think that is clear.
"The Days of Rage was an attempt to break from the norms of kind of acceptable theatre of 'here are the anti-war people: containable, marginal, predictable, and here's the little path they're going to march down, and here's where they can make their little statement.' We wanted to say, "No, what we're going to do is whatever we had to do to stop the violence in Vietnam.'"
It was a failed experiment, yes. It caused damage, yes. Can anyone prove that Ayers himself caused death? No. He is apparently trustworthy enough now to be a distinguished member of the University of Chicago.
Calling this guy a terrorist is like calling George W. Bush an effective president.
October 21, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was only a teenager, so my memory is fuzzy. But I believe the Weathermen did not intend to kill. They wanted to draw attention and persuade people to their viewpoint. The obvious problem is that, once you use a weapon you inevitably will hurt someone and lose your moral authority to persuade.
October 21, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
From a New York Times article about Ayers and the group he helped form:
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The group he "co-founded" was the Weather Underground. Before that there was the "Weathermen".
The name was taken from bobby d.'s song "Subterranean Homsick Blues".
bobby d. wasn't involved with any of that, except the song.
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"A 1970 pipe bomb in San Franscisco attributed to the group killed one police office and severely hurt another...
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It was "ATTRIBUTED" TO whom BY whom?
Was the "attribution" ever proven TRUE?
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And in 1981, in an armed robbery of a Brinks armored truck in NY that involever Weather Underground members (not Ayers), two police officers and a guard were killed...
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Ayers wasn't involved? Then it is irrelevant?
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in his memoir, Ayers was evasive as to which bombings he had a hand in."
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1. SUBSTANTIATE.
2. SUBSTANTIATE that whatever your presumption for the alleged "evasion" is (2) the only one possible, and (b) true.
October 21, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink