THE APOLOGY
Ancient philosophy
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
SOCRATES
(Please note in my defense, that no Athenians were hurt during the creation of the post, but if your eyes and ears are sensitive today, please refrain from reading this rant. No blessings here.)
I loved this book by Plato. First book of philosophy I ever read. A chapter of course in a short three chapter book about the death of the man Plato most loved in the world, Socrates.
It struck me on the first read, that there was no apology at all. As I grew older I became too sophisticated to even contemplate that there was no apology contained in the short book. As I grew even older, I mean really older, I was really stuck that there was no apology at all.
I was so much older back then, I am younger than that now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzBlR2jt_L0
Certainly Plato made no apology to the Sophists who killed Socrates; nor was there any apology to the citizens who voted for the exile or the death of my hero under the guidance of the Sophists. Athens was a democracy although my friend de Tocqueville points out that Athens was not much of a democracy since only ten percent of the population could vote. Kind of the same in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts at the start when you think about it.
Socrates never apologized at all of course; for anything. Just ask I.F. Stone. Ahahahahaa.
Go away, be exiled forever, cried the citizens of Athens. We do not wish to kill you. Just go away. You make us uncomfortable. You wish to point out things that are of the past. We must look forward, not backward. Go Socrates. You make us far to uncomfortable.
FUCK YOU cried Socrates. And FUCK YOUR MOTHERS TOO. Ha.
Well then, we must execute you. We have no fancy electric chairs and we are surely not going to cut your head off and make you a martyr. We are not going to put a cloth over your head and hang you or crucify you. But we must ask that you take this potion and be done with you. You make us far too uncomfortable.
A member of the House of Representatives; also known as the PEOPLE'S HOUSE, disrupted a reading. A splendid speech to both Houses of Congress held in the People's Home by the President of the United States of America.
YOU LIE! Screamed the South Carolinian; right in the middle of the speech. Joe Wilson a member of neo nazi groups and a man who has never helped the common man in his entire lifetime, screams what he maintains is the truth.
Now we must all understand. I mean, every time George W. Bush spoke on the television, he lied; for eight long years. And all his representatives lied. EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY APPEARED. On cable news, on network television, on the radio or when they were merely quoted in the newspapers or news web sites. THEY LIED.
They lied about why we should go to war against Iraq.
They lied about how tax cuts would help the middle class.
They lied about how the business of America was business.
They lied about how many new jobs they would create.
They lied about how God was on our side.
They lied about how they kept America safe.
They lied about how outsourcing would save the taxpayers money.
They lied about how they would pay down debt and balance the budget.
They lied about how they would protect our National Resources.
They lied about how they cared about the middle class.
They lied about welfare queens driving Cadillacs.
They lied about how abstinence counseling would decrease the numbers of pregnancies.
They lied about the bidding process for independent
contractors and how egalitarian the entire process was.
They lied about how truly 'independent' those contractors were.
They lied about how twelve billion dollars in small bills dropped in the middle of Bagdad was in our national interest.
They lied about how our groundwater was safe from pollutants.
They lied about dems wanted forced abortions.
They lied about how dems wanted to destroy Christmas.
They lied and they lied and they lied and they lied and they lied. And they continue to lie. Not just misstate, not just spin, not just confuse....they just plain lie.
I would stand up from my love seat, which I stole from the garbage man three years ago, and yell with great bravado: YOU LIE. HA!!!
And this nazi fascist fuck does the same thing during a joint session of the Congress of the United States; all the time KNOWING that his president was not lying at all. Not even fibbing. Not even spinning.
"I am not going to apologize again," he said. He said he apologized to Obama on Wednesday he said and "that is sufficient." Actually, the apology went to Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2009/09/rep_you_lie_wilson_says_he_wil.html
I am sooooooooooooooooooo sorry mister Jew Chief of Staff. Soooooooooooooo sorry I let out a thought that had somehow been passing through my nazi mind. I should have shown more restraint. My goodness.
Oh but I will be damned if I stand on the floor of the House of Representatives and apologize. I already made my apology.
Oh, and on TV the nazi will say: I apologize FOR THE FORM BUT NOT THE CONTENT OF MY REMARK during the Joint Session of the Congress of the United States of America.
Oh, and Representative Clyburn, the distinguished House Whip from the opposing party of Wilson's. Well, Clyburn had been receiving snubs from Wilson and his white supremacists his entire fricking life. Brought a resolution to condemn Wilson's actions and it passed, mostly upon party lines of course. But a statement was made, anyway. I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS RACIST NAZI FASCIST CRAP ANY LONGER-NOT WITHOUT A FIGHT, NOT WITHOUT A CONDEMNATION, says Representative Clyburn.
And what was the real message of Representative Wilson?
FUCK YOU MR. PRESIDENT; YOU BLACK SON OF A BITCH. I SHALL NEVER RECOGNIZE YOU OR YOUR KIND AS MY PRESIDENT. YOU DESERVE NEITHER MY RESPECT NOR ANY DECORUM. FUCK YOU AND YOUR MOTHER MR. PRESIDENT.
I have noticed over the past few months that people on the left are a little angry. WHEN ARE THE GODDAMN DEMOCRATS GONNA STEP UP TO THE PLATE.
Beck and other NAZI's hint that there should be some sort of military coup in this country. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXCHPZyJC-4
Our president is portrayed as Hitler, as a monkey, as a jungle chieftan.....no respect whatsoever for a man who really represents fulfillment of the American Dream. The greatest speaker of our time.
They ask, when are the dems going to step up to the plate and take some batting practice?
Representative Grayson D-Fla.,stepped up to the plate. This man stood on the House Floor (admittedly with a couple of those graphs that look so stupid) and said, hey, the repubs are trying to kill you.
45,000 killed every year by the repubs. A true fact of life. Repubs do not wish any interference with the wealth that is coming to them every goddamnable year from the death panels that run our healthcare system. Representative Grayson held nothing back.
"Republicans want you to die quickly if you get sick."
You know that this man was asked for an apology; for even intimating that repubs are killing people every year?
You want an apology? asked Grayson. Hell, I will give you an apology.
They'll have to wait a while longer. This afternoon, Grayson came back to the House floor to say he had no intentions of backing down from his comments:
"I apologize to the dead and their families that we haven't voted sooner to end this holocaust in America," Grayson said. http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/09/rep-grayson-doesnt-apologize-compares-health-care-shortcomings-to-holocaust.html
FUCK YOU REPUBS AND THE GODDAMN HORSES YOU CAME IN ON.
Now is the time for all good men and all good women to come to the aid of their party and their country.
GOOD FOR YOU ALAN GRAYSON!!!!
People, Alan Grayson is my new hero. I am not kidding.
Here he is:
Alan Grayson 455 N. Garland Ave, Ste. 402Orlando, FL 32801
(407) 841-1757
(407) 841-1754 (fax)
Here is an email address:
Tavares, FL
1-866-939-3737 (toll free)
lake@mail.house.gov
Here is my email:
The Honorable Alan Grayson
Representative for the Eighth District of Florida
Dear Congressman Grayson:
I am just an old man in my pj's on the world wide net.
You sir are a hero. A hero I say for most of us left wing bloggers who are sick and tired of the slams against our President and our Democratic Party by people who do not give a damn about the citizens of this great country.
You sir, give us hope.
Yes, to do nothing on health care is to simply continue the carnage.
Thank you so much for voicing what has not yet been voiced on the floor of the People's House.
I, for one, will support you in any endeavor you seek. And so shall my comrades on the net.
Thank you for demonstrating some courage that has been sorely needed.
Very truly yours,
Richard G. Day
Oh and here is the congressman's blog:
The truth is what it is. But a lie, being created by humans, can be manipulated by humans as the situation dictates.
I can't remember what exactly it was about, but there was one time when the truth would have benefited them, and they still lied. At that point I understood that they did not lie only when the truth was inconvenient, or interfered with what they wanted to do. They lied as a matter of strategy, to create a complete world divorced from reality, a world they controlled. The truth was the enemy as a matter of principle.
I am sure they would sit around and read from 1984, and murmur in agreement over how wonderful it would be when the day arrives when they could say the 5% decrease in chocolate rations was an increase and the people would cheer.
October 1, 2009 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
acamus. This is planned. They plan it. The SNL skit got it wrong on the Wilson debacle. The repubs planned that entire outburst. IT HAPPENED TWICE for the benefit of the cameras AND THEY KNOW IT.
It was discussed before it ever occurred. Damn
You bet they read THE PRINCE, they read the Art of War by whatshisname, they read 1984, hell they read the goddamn Nuremburg transcripts. Certain their STAFF does.
Now you really got me riled up. hahahahahahah
October 1, 2009 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dick,
You know they are lying, I know they are lying, and most of the right-wing leaders know they are lying. (Not the religious crazies like Bachman and Palin or the Libertarian true-believers like Dick Armey and Grover Norquist, but most) But the base does not recognize what is being said in their name as lies.
The base is made of of frightened, emotionally rigid people who fear change. They know what they want, and that is for the changes to stop. So they will say, do, and most importantly, believe, anything that might stop the changes that frighten them. They also choose those who tell those lies as their leaders and spokes-liars. The liars tell the lies to keep their leadership positions.
There are some researchers who are explaining Motivated Reasoning as a psychological mechanism to explain their lies.
How do we defeat such people, people whose emotional stability depends on believing lies? They will deny the truth to their dying day.
The truth is valuable only to convince those who are reality-based. The frightened and their leaders cannot be convinced by the truth. The frightened and their leaders have to be exposed as being insane. They cannot be treated as reasonable equals in a discussion designed to reveal the truth. I think that Representative Grayson (D-Fla) has made a big step in that direction.
I'll also bet that the polls will not explore that issue. Without polls to support them, the Democratic leaders aren't going to support Grayson.
We need to support Rep. Grayson for taking his position. Send him money and write to other pols and to news organizations to support his effort to stand up and confront the right-wing crazies.
October 1, 2009 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
yes, yes yes yes!!! Cognitive dissonance. I always loved that term. hell thirty years ago. forty years ago really. In Anthro 101.
And you know Richard....guys like Woody Guthrie and
Bruce Springstein....
They sell the right message. We need salesmen and saleswomen. People with good solid American messages. People buy into this stuff and there is a propaganda war goin on out there. Class warfare is goin on.
It is not always what you say, but how you say it.
Goooooooooood points Richard, as always.
October 1, 2009 10:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It has recently come to my attention that western societies reward individuals for winning, while eastern societies reward individuals for belonging to better groups (or families.) In the west we give the person's name first, then the family name. In the Eastern cultures they presejnt the family name first, then the individual name. That's the key source of the Japanese proverb that the nail that stands out is the one that is hammered. In the west that nail is the one that is rewarded.
Taken to the extremes, both total individualism and total community control are destructive. The community is required to support individuals because we all fail in so many ways. We can't reward those who abandon those who cannot succeed in society. Who knows what insights those people can offer - perhaps to a later generation? But to make that a rigid demand that everyone adapt to the majority and to those who won in the past eliminates the ability of society to adapt to major changes and to innovate.
There has to be a balance between absolute individualism and total communitarianism. It's that balance we are looking for.
October 2, 2009 1:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
off topic/ Richard it seems you have some exposure to issues related to psychology. I'm looking for a study or studies based on the presentation of a task effecting the outcomes of previously stigmatized groups.
Two scenarios,
men dressed in white bring packages of plastic wrapped tests into classroom, of women, and say 'these test are designed to test your mathematical and scientific aptitudes'.
women dressed casually address a similar group, the tests have been predistributed, they say these tests have been designed specifically for women to measure logic and problem solving.
Same test, similar groups, different presentation = dramatically different results.
Another case was putting, as in golf, the athletes in the group were told that putting was a test of physical acumen. The geeks, for lack of a better term, were told it was a means to test geometric and physical problem solving.
Different results were achieved in each instance based on 'promoted' expectations.
I've seen these studies and cannot track them down. Do you have any idea what I'm speaking of?
October 2, 2009 8:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the abstract for a review article on this kind of research:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1123499
You might need to register at ssrn to get the full piece.
October 2, 2009 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
not exactly the same, but many good clues. thank you
October 2, 2009 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jonnie, don't know if your particular studies are cited in there, but I thought it was the Stereotype Threat research that you're interested in...
If not, what were you looking for?
October 2, 2009 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
It had more to do with task presentation being a tool to combat stereo threat. Simply telling people the test was designed to give them an advantage, describing tests in a fashion to negate stereo threat. The study I saw was from ASU, I think. I'm going to write to Thom Hartmann, I believe, that's where I first heard of the concept.
October 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
An additional thought.
The radical right base are not rational people. Being rational gets them nowhere. They don't feel competent to make their own decisions in those matters. They do not feel that being rational will make them emotionally comfortable, so they believe what those they believe are authorities tell them and try to enforce the things those leaders claim will work to alleviate their fears.
Their leaders are both religious and political individuals. Those leaders tell the base what they want to hear - and what advances the careers and increases the wealth of the leaders.
What the leaders tell them is that the problems they face are caused by enemies who can be identified and attacked. Those enemies are immoral individuals motivated by Satan (or his equivalent) to attack the members of the base with the tribulations of Job.
Enemies with a face who are immoral and motivated by Satan can be identified. A social system that is based on great inequality that rewards those born into the upper class is not part of the problem. "Everyone" agrees it is just nothing more than the way God rewards his anointed. An impersonal system that is designed to push some to the front and others to the rear without any rhyme or reason (skin color - gender - age - etc.) is simply too complicated to deal with. Besides, those individuals know they are not sufficiently intellectual to deal with such complexities. Those who claim to be able to deal with them are lairs trying to "put them down" and ignore what they "know" to be true.
That is a set of values and attitudes that cannot be changed just by "presenting the facts and letting them decide." Members of the base will apply Motivated Reasoning.
A big part of the problem is that the schools of education are filled with people who have degrees but no experience teaching children. Another part of the problem is that educators are not rewarded for being effective educators. In America we get what we pay for and we don['t pay for teachers who teach children to be rational and to trust themselves to find the best answer to new problems. .
October 1, 2009 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Richard, as you correctly state it is this system of belief absent rational thought and supporting facts wherein lies the logical flaw of the contemporary conservative argument. As Dick, and myself on many many occasions have loudly proclaimed, the product of this is lies.
We cannot, nor can anyone, sustain a society that operates on this basis. We know that individual relationships inevitably founder in the presence of lies. This is true of entire societies as well.
Where this all really comes to a head is where the scale of the untruthfullness has grown to exceedingly absurd proportions. Minor indiscretions would be of no real consequence. That is not the case though.
We need only examine the distortions of the prior administration regarding Iraq to know the genesis of where we are. The ambiguities of the information leading to the Iraq war were understood when those things were being examined. Those ambiguities should never have ended in the decision they did. This event opened the floodgates of untruth. The immensity of this particular lie set the standard for truth in public discourse.
From the above we now have the banking lie, the healthcare lie, the Afghanistan lie and all manner of subordinate lies that direct us to ill advised conclusions which will inevitably prove harmful.
I am quite sure the path of history will recognize this particular demarcation from truth as very significant. The consequence of the Bush / Cheney lie, and the subsequent inaction by congress to it, will remain as a major turning point in our history. Interestingly enough we are a nation alone in the absurdity of this portrayal of truth. I can think of no other western developed country so heavily burdened by a lie. The one final feature of this is the contributing elements of the lie, many of which, constitutionally are flat disallowed as factors in presidential deliberations.
October 2, 2009 6:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
What has happened, I believe, is that the Right has become enamoured with the Eastern countries, where lies abound, such as China and Russia. Bush was very impressed with Putin, looking into his soul. Lie #1, the KGB has a soul? Anything after that has no foundation. As for China, well, Bush had a great time at the Olympics, so all that fanfare MUST have been a reflection of the people's happiness with their government, as opposed to merely an ethnic pride in being Chinese.
October 2, 2009 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
It also goes beyond rational thought and facts. What we don't teach well, or at all, in the schools is critical thinking, or how to deal with open-ended questions.
It's one thing when the answer is either A or B. It's another thing if A and B are both potentially valid responses that can be argued and debated. If we do A, then C happens (good) but then D also happens (bad), but if we do B, neither C or D happens, but E cannot happen (also bad), but F could happen (good). And so on.
The problem is that people find dissonance simply faced with such open-ended questions. The result is usually a desire to reduce it to a comfortable closed-ended question.
Global warming for instance is an open-ended question once one embraces the closed-ended question of whether it is happening. Since it is happening, how do we effectively deal with it in a way that does not adversely effect the economy too much, and to what extent should we make sacrifices in order to ensure that we are effectively dealing with the issue?
Rather than grapple with these complexities, they return to the simple closed-ended question -is global warming happening? yes or no. If we can answer no, then we get to avoid all that messy stuff that comes from the open-ended question. We can go back to our daily routine. So they leap for the one that offers them, in this case, the "no" they so much want to hear.
The fact that they don't have much use for rational thought just makes it a whole lot easier for them to buy into lies.
This desire to avoid open-ended questions also drives them to seek absolute enemies. You are either with us or against us. Good vs. Evil. No shades of gray. No need for doubt. No need for reflection. Heaven or hell. And nothing in between.
October 2, 2009 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, if you just choose as Imhofe has, to just say no to global warming, you save a lot of energy. You save yourself a lot of time looking at the research.
If you just say no to abortion under any circumstances you save yourself a lot of time and energy. You do not have to worry about saving the life of the mother. You do not have to worry about rape. You can escape discussion of a myriad of issues.
I have never quite put it this way. Good point acamus.
I mean the conservatives present a much simpler universe.
October 2, 2009 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
This desire for simplicity (and hence certainity) on the political front I think this is why they are so intensely against the NEA (and art in general). Their attacks are so over the top compared to its percentage of the budget. If there is anything that can complicate the world, show that there two, five, thousand sides to an issue it is art. Nothing like art to confront us with the moral ambiguity and ethical conflicts that resides in some of our most serious issues.
And once we introduce ambiguity, shades of gray, reflection, doubt, then there is an sense of an immediate attack on the absolute certainity of their religious-political paradigm. And the walls...come crumbling down...
October 2, 2009 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Though I agree with you 99.5 %, I must disagree with one small part of your post. You believe the "religious crazies" like Bachmann don't know they're lying when, in fact, Bachmann came to the floor yesterday to decry part a health care bill. She claimed it required "sex clinics" in schools that don't require the school to notify parents. She went on to claim that students could get abortions and then go home and sit down to dinner without her parents being any the wiser.
Trouble is, she completely ignored the first paragraph of the amendment which clearly states that there must be PARENTAL NOTIFICATION.
As my mother always said, a half-truth is worse than an outright lie. Bachmann cherry-picked a tiny part of the bill, completely ignored its substance and lit up a strawman under the GOP pressure-cooker. She's worse than a liar; she's cunningly deceitful.
October 2, 2009 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
She knows Spiff. And she just watched a middle class woman procure ten million bucks? in one year by spouting nothingness onto the airways.
Bachman knows that there is money, a lot of money out there for someone like her if she just comes up with her own lies.
I am starting to think that this goes beyond politics. THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE TO BE HAD.
The repubs are in a lot of trouble (hopefully) if they give too much support to the messages of people like Bachman. As least I hope they are in a lot of trouble.
October 2, 2009 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
The frightened and their leaders have to be exposed as being insane.
That just needed more emphasis.
The truth will attract those not yet drunk with the Kool-Aid and many have woken up, but Beck etc. will always have fans of fantasy. I think that the ones who stepped up were not so much the Kool-Aid drinkers coming around, but the slouchers coming to the table, getting activated, so to speak. I do not think many people changed their minds as many more epeople decided to get involved.
Let's keep them involved. Mr. Grayson goes a long way toward doing that.
October 2, 2009 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
As I've been saying in relevant spots on this blog, he (and others) ought to keep saying this. It does appear to have struck a nerve, and watching the Repubs try to dance away from all the ludicrous things they've said over the years while demanding that Grayson apologize would be hilarious if it wasn't my country they were damaging.
I wish I could rec this twice. (Being from Chicago and all...)
October 1, 2009 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Grouch, we do not wish to duplicate the spammers here or the trolls either. hahahahahahahahahaha
Thank you for some support.
I saw the replay of Grayson, and I screamed, I hurrahed...THERE HE IS, MY NEW HERO.
You know, for a terrible state politically. (I lived down there for almost a year) For a state that does so little for those suffering under a terrible regime, Florida has some of the nicest representatives. And for that I am grateful.
October 1, 2009 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here! Here! It's good for the republicans to have to take some of what they've been religiously dishing out.
I tried to email and call yesterday and his email was down and his voice mail box was full so I'll try again today.
What I appreciated in addition to him taking a stand for the Americans dying every day because they don't have health care was his stating that the American people want to see a democrat that stands for something!
He got my vote yesterday... I'll send him money etc. I just hope he keeps it up!:)
October 1, 2009 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
GOOD FOR YOU SYNC. Damn, we yell, we scream, we ask nicely:
SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING!!!
And here is a guy I never heard of. hahhahahahahah
I LOVE THIS GUY.
October 1, 2009 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2009/10/graysons-blunt-talk-nets-donations-lefty-love.html
He's a freshman with lots of money.
http://www.rollcall.com/features/Guide-to-Congress_2009/guide/38181-1.html?page=4
October 1, 2009 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Jonnie, thank you so much for this link. I continued my rant.
great stuff
God I hope he gets 60 million for chrissakes. (blesses himself and the dem party) ha!!!
October 1, 2009 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish you would get 60 million, at least you would put it to good use.
October 1, 2009 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahahahahah SPEECHLESS
October 1, 2009 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I went over to actblue and dropped a few bucks into Grayson's campaign fund. Felt real good.
October 1, 2009 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
GREAT NEWS. GREAT. Kev, we have to give positive reinforcement for actions that we appreciate.
ITS THE CAPITALIST WAY. Is it not?
Oh you elate me at this time of day. ha!!
October 1, 2009 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I am going to drop some greenbacks at actblue for this guy as well. I must wait a little while to do it, there is NOTHING quite like this inspired action to boost my motivation. Three cheers for this jolly good fellow!!
October 1, 2009 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Loooooooooosey. You warm my heart.
Very goooooooooooood.
oh I am glad I did this blog. ha!!!
October 1, 2009 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
=D
YAY!!!!!!!
October 1, 2009 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahahahaha. Oh you make my day as always Bwak. haha
October 1, 2009 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well unfortunately DD Grayson is not my rep. I live in Seminole Co. and rep is a Blue Dud.
Seminole county is make up of, for the most part, upper middle class white liberals.
That is except for Sanford which is small and has either blacks or retirees on small fixed incomes.
As Phil Ochs would say "Ten degrees left of center when times are good. Ten degrees right of center when it effects them personally."
C
October 1, 2009 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Got that I think, C. I sure like it when someone steps up is all.
Grayson said: FUCK YOU. In no uncertain terms.
I loved it. ha
October 1, 2009 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, yes. Semi-hole county. One of those half-assed locations.
October 2, 2009 1:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not only that but it's also where the vast majority of the professors from the Univ. I work at live.
Go figure.
C
October 2, 2009 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome.
October 1, 2009 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is Destor. ha!!!
Listen, this Grayson guy is no idiot. And I swear to god almighty, I will remember him.
ha!!!
October 1, 2009 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Grayson certainly seems one to watch.
Good blog,Mr. Day.
October 1, 2009 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yes Flower. I am going to follow this guy for awhile. No kidding!!!
October 1, 2009 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
As you noted, DD, this has been posted elsewhere... but no worries! I'm VERY GLAD to see it getting the attention it deserves right here (and ANYWHERE else it can be shown). The longer this stays in the cycle, the better!!!
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Here is another Grayson video from back on 9-2-09 (I'd posted elsewhere, but tracked down to share here as well)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqM2tFOxLQ
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October 2, 2009 8:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Ickyma. And I would vry much like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for
SCARING THE LIVING SHITE OUT OF ME.
If I hear correctly, WE DO NOT KNOW THAT HAPPENED TO NINE TRILLION DOLLARS?
Icky, why not do an in depth blog on this one?
October 2, 2009 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I will try to do a blog on it...
In depth may be a problem.
I am at work at a pharmacy at the first of the month (busiest time).
I rarely get the opportunity to sit down and do anything in depth. I'm limited to mostly posting news and providing a brief comment... and HOPING that others find it interesting and want to comment/discuss it... :)
October 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
No Icky. We have time. I realize people like you have a life. Take a week. A little at a time. And you like doing it. see...
October 2, 2009 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arthur, I've been so mad the past few days that I've been reading but not commenting much for fear of launching into language I used proficiently before becoming a Christian. Thank you for saying it for me (especially the one about the horse...used to be one of my favorites...)Reading it was almost as therapeutic as saying it. Almost.
October 2, 2009 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
OH Stilli, I am so glad you enjoyed this rant. I watched this Grayson fellow apologize to 45,000 deceased along with survivors AND I WENT NUTS.
October 2, 2009 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
The more I see of this Grayson guy, the more I like him. Here he is laying into the Fed's GC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXmNpdYpfnk
Great blog, Dick.
October 2, 2009 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I just posted that (2 above your post) :) :) :)
October 2, 2009 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Memo to self - ALWAYS read Ickyma very carefully.
;0)
P.S. He's awesome in that one. What kind of committe seats does this guy have? Want more questions like his...
October 2, 2009 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
:)
October 2, 2009 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Obey. If I had seen Icky's earlier blog I would have given him proper credit.
It just seems that as I stated, people on the left of most issues wanted to see someone ACTUALLY RESPOND to the new forces in the right wing.
Well, here he is. hahahaaha And he is having some fun doing it too. Grayson does it with a smile. ha
October 2, 2009 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
As soon as I saw that you posted "Apology" I was afraid you were admitting you wore footed pajamas with a flap in the back. Probably because I had just finished reading the article about Letterman's extortionist. Whew! Glad that nightmare did not come to be! :-{)>
DD, there seems to be some rage missing on this blog, but you turned the heat right back up. We need more of this outrage, really. As we discuss the emotionally motivated reasonings of people, we could use some emotion of our own, the salesmen. If the foundation is true, then including emotion in the message is not anethema. It's when emotion blinds us to the lack of foundation that there is a problem.
Truth is, 40,000 people die each year unnecessarily, and it's not because they could not be treated in the ER. An apology is due the American people from Congress and I have nothing but respect for Rep. Grayson making that apology.
October 2, 2009 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
The dem leadership appears to be in a quandary here. But there aint gonna be an apology forthcoming from Grayson for his apology. haahah
October 2, 2009 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's hope they take courage from the support he has raised. Maybe he took a cue from how Wilson's opponent raised a ton of money overnight after he cried out, "You Lied" at the joint session of Congress when President Obama addressed them.
October 2, 2009 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink