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PROFESSIONAL DISTANCE: A Discussion of Health Care Reform


Jalianwala Bagh Massacre


On April 13, 1919 there was a massacre at a place known as the Jallianwala Bagh (Garden) in the northern Indian city of Amritsar. 

Thousands of people gathered in the Jallianwala Bagh (garden) near the Golden Temple in Amritsar, on Baisakhi, both a harvest festival and the Sikh religious new year. There were speakers present to discuss a number of issues.

British Indian Army soldiers under the command of Brigadier-General Reginald Dyer opened fire on an unarmed gathering of men, women and children. The firing lasted for 10 to 15 minutes, until they ran out of ammunition.[1] Official British Raj sources placed the fatalities at 379, and with 1100 wounded.[2] Civil Surgeon Dr. Smith indicated that there were 1,526 casualties.[3]  For more see:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

I was introduced to this modern day example of human sacrifice when I first saw the movie Gandhi.


In the movie, following the depiction of the carnage, there was a Military Commission of Inquiry. I tracked down the script and found this:


A Government Advocate (English) turns 
to face Dyer.
ADVOCATE: General Dyer, is it correct 
that you ordered your troops to fire
at the thickest part of the crowd?

Dyer glances woodenly at the panel--a
man in some shock at the consequences
of what he assumed was an act worthy
of praise.

DYER (righteously): That is so.
The Advocate looks at him with a degree 
of disbelief -more at his attitude than
 his statement.
ADVOCATE: One thousand five hundred and
sixteen casualties with one thousand six
hundred and fifty bullets.
A slight reaction from the public section.
Dyer's jaw tightens.
DYER: My intention was to inflict a lesson
that would have an impact throughout all
India.
He stares at the panel like a reasonable man
making a reasonable point. The evasiveness,
the only half-buried embarrassment of their
response only deepens his own withdrawal
into himself.
INDIAN BARRISTER: General, had you been able
to take in the armored car, would you have
opened fire with the machine gun?
Dyer thinks about it. Then unashamedly -
 
DYER: I think, probably - yes.
A muted reaction from the public section.
The Indian barrister stares at him a moment,
then simply lowers his eyes to his notes.

HUNTER: General, did you realize there were 
children - and women - in the crowd?
DYER (a beat): I did.
For the first time there is the hint of
uncertainty in his manner.
ADVOCATE: But that was irrelevant to the
point you were making?
DYER: That is correct.
There is just a tremor of distaste quickly
suppressed among the panel. Not so quickly
in the public section.
ADVOCATE: Could I ask you what provision
you made for the wounded?
Dyer looks at him quickly. The question is
unexpected, even a little"clever." The
officers listening clearly resent it.
DYER (a moment, then firmly): I was ready to
help any who applied.
And that answer stops the Advocate. He
smiles dryly.
 
ADVOCATE: General . . . how does a child 
shot with a 3-0-3 Enfield "apply" for
help?
 
Dyer faces him stonily, a seed of panic
taking root deep in his gut.
 
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I watched this within the last month I should think, and every time I see this epic, I am drawn to this particular scene.  There is something about Dyer.  Edward Fox, who also starred in Day of the Jackal http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069947/ does a remarkable job of depicting the evil British General.

There is a concept in psychotherapy known as 'professional distance'.

In the following link, the psychotherapist wraps it up for a woman who over a course of only a few years struggled with cancer, first losing her arm, then her life.  During this ordeal she met with a psychotherapist through a referral from her oncologist:

Although we had each struggled to maintain professional distance, it is hard to watch someone you work with lose their life to cancer at such an early age. The feelings that are rarely expressed come easily to the fore at a funeral. Knowing that you may have helped someone to adapt to a difficult life situation eases, but never eliminates, the pain. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2660155/

And just for the hell of it, check out this link

http://aic.gov.au/en/criminal_justice_system/policing/~/media/conferences/policewomen3/crehan.ashx


The first link deals with the problem of  'professionals' getting to close to their patients; become overly sympathetic to their plight so that it interferes with the professional's ability to help the patient.

The second link has to do with boinking your secretary or back stabbing your co worker.  Basically it is telling you to stay out of a fellow employee's shite.

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis released on Thursday.

"We're losing more Americans every day because of inaction ... than drunk driving and homicide combined," Dr. David Himmelstein, a co-author of the study and an associate professor of medicine at Harvard, said in an interview with Reuters.

Overall, researchers said American adults age 64 and younger who lack health insurance have a 40 percent higher risk of death than those who have coverage.

The findings come amid a fierce debate over Democrats' efforts to reform the nation's $2.5 trillion U.S. healthcare industry by expanding coverage and reducing healthcare costs.

President Barack Obama's has made the overhaul a top domestic policy priority, but his plan has been besieged by critics and slowed by intense political battles in Congress, with the insurance and healthcare industries fighting some parts of the plan.

The Harvard study, funded by a federal research grant, was published in the online edition of the American Journal of Public Health. It was released by Physicians for a National Health Program, which favors government-backed or "single-payer" health insurance.

An similar study in 1993 found those without insurance had a 25 percent greater risk of death, according to the Harvard group. The Institute of Medicine later used that data in its 2002 estimate showing about 18,000 people a year died because they lacked coverage.

Part of the increased risk now is due to the growing ranks of the uninsured, Himmelstein said. Roughly 46.3 million people in the United States lacked coverage in 2008, the U.S. Census Bureau reported last week, up from 45.7 million in 2007.   http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE58G6W520090917

Many at Café have related their individual confrontation with pain and suffering along with the prospects of death.  Scores of posts have related individual struggles with the powers that be for the right to be treated for their diseases or injuries. It is not fruitful to merely read articles like the one from reuters without also reviewing the individual cases. The instances where our health care system just shuts the door on someone's pain and suffering and even death.

Death panels. JESUS CHRIST THE DEATH PANELS HAVE BEEN SET UP AND WORKING DAILY FOR DECADES. Who is kidding whom?  But I digress.

Alan Grayson is not afraid of crossing that line, the line of professional distance:

On Wednesday afternoon, Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) shed tears on the House floor during a speech on the need for health insurance reform. Reading letters from people who have lost their loved ones because they did not have health coverage, the emotional Congressman paid tribute to victims who he said "aren't often heard from."

"There are 44,789, who die every year from lack of health insurance," Grayson said. "In the course of my speech tonight, there will be five more."

The moving stories narrated by Grayson came from his website namesofthedead.com. Unveiled on the House floor last week, the congressman's initiative aims to shine light on the innocent victims of the U.S. health care system. "I hope that honoring them will help us end this senseless loss of American lives," Grayson wrote. Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/29/alan-grayson-cries-on-the_n_338324.html

Peggy Noonan

I think the health plan is being slowed and may well be stopped not by ideology, or even by philosophy in a strict sense, but by simple American common sense. I suspect voters, the past few weeks, have been giving themselves an internal Q-and-A that goes something like this:

Will whatever health care bill is produced by Congress increase the deficit? "Of course." Will it mean tax increases? "Of course." Will it mean new fees or fines? "Probably." Can I afford it right now? "No, I'm already getting clobbered." Will it make the marketplace freer and better? "Probably not." Is our health care system in crisis? "Yeah, it has been for years." Is it the most pressing crisis right now? "No, the economy is." Will a health-care bill improve the economy? "I doubt it." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306533556532364.html

Peggy always likes to tweak her nose like on bewitched and commiserate with Joe Scarborough about how this is just not the right time to revise our health care system.

Mitch McConnell

"Forcing free market plans to compete with these government-run programs would create an unlevel playing field and inevitably doom true competition," the letter stated. "Ultimately, we would be left with a single government-run program controlling all of the market. This would take health care decisions out of doctors and patients and place them in the hands of another Washington bureaucracy." http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19633.html

Joe Lieberman

This afternoon, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) appeared on Fox News to defend his intention to filibuster any health care reform bill that includes a national public option. Lieberman argued that a public plan would "stifle" the economic recovery and increase "the debt." "It's just unnecessary," Lieberman said. The public option is "a new entitlement program and the taxpayers and the premium-payers are going to end up paying for it, or else the debt will go higher."

Responding to proponents of the public plan who argue that it would actually lower costs, Lieberman insisted that if the public option paid lower reimbursement rates than private insurers, medical providers would shift costs to Americans with private coverage:

LIEBERMAN: If the public option, the government run health insurance company negotiates hard to lower the reimbursement -- the money it's paying to hospitals, doctors -- they're [providers] going to have to get that money somewhere. And where they're going to get it is from the 200 million Americans who today have private health insurance. Premiums will go up. It's exactly what's happened with Medicare and Medicaid. [...]

When people hear public option, I think they think it's for free. It's not for free. Somebody is going to have to pay for it and you can bet it's going to be the taxpayers and the people who pay health insurance premiums now.  http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/28/lieberman-public-option/

I may wish to delve further into this at a later date.  Suffice it to say that Noonan, Scarborough, McConnell and Lieberman all kind of stick to the same arguments in their battle against real health care reform.  Basically:

IT'S A BAD TIME RIGHT NOW

IT IS ONE OF THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS TO GO AHEAD AND RAISE TAXES.


TOO MANY OTHER ISSUES ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW

THE SICKLY WILL ALWAYS BE WITH US

THOSE WITH INSURANCE WILL BE HURT

CAPITALISM WORKS FOR RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE

Whatever.....What they really mean is:

READY, AIM, FIRE

Oh there are those who outright lie about the blood in the streets like Anthony Perkins, http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/dikkday48yahoocom/2009/10/anthony-perkins-the-newest-psy.php#more

I mean Perkins talks about the five million in this country without health insurance who are taken good care of anyway.

It does not matter. Every time I see these people defending the status quo I hear General Dyer saying:

I was ready to
help any who applied.

NOW THAT IS PROFESSIONAL DISTANCE

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The capacity for rationalization of the unreasonable will always be with us, DD. Which is not to say we can afford to let it flourish unaddressed.

Calling out the lies is our mission.

It will not be achieved in one step. And resistance will not melt away.

Perhaps a series of orchestrated "die-ins" in insurance company offices would serve to focus attention on some of this?

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Why not Grouch? Line the wheel chairs and the gurneys right in front of the main offices of these corporations.

And how about lining them up in front of the offices of the pundits like George Will? Imagine thousands upon thousands of the diseased and cripple outside his window as he discusses the Federalist Papers.

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No professional distance DD - cold blooded. Not unlike that of the murder in the movie Seven.

With exactly the same lack of compassion for anyone.

C

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Seven scared the shite out of me, no kidding. I never saw it coming really.

I never could understand how these monsters, Americans all, can rationalize all of this.

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I was in therapy when I saw it and after I got out felt I needed a very long session with my therapist.

HA


C

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THOSE WITH INSURANCE WILL BE HURT

It's too bad we couldn't spread that hurt around a little by providing everyone with insurance.

Peggy Noonan pisses me off. When I see her on the Sunday shows I just want to punch the tv. Or at least slap the snot out of it. But, then I realize my anger is directed at an innocent piece of electronic equipment. So, I go outside and sling some bad thought arrows in her general direction.

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There is, though, nothing wrong with occasionally beating the living daylights out of some defenseless (and dispensable) inanimate object as a frustration release.

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Hey Child Flower of mine. I hereby render unto you the Dayly Line of the Day Award for this here TPMCafe Site, given to all of you from all of me for this gem:

''When I see her on the Sunday shows I just want to punch the tv. Or at least slap the snot out of it. But, then I realize my anger is directed at an innocent piece of electronic equipment. So, I go outside and sling some bad thought arrows in her general direction.''

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Great post Dd.

Right now it is time to put on pressure full boar on the house and senate. Harry Reid today asked us to. Dick Durbin posted a poll where entering your address including state is optional so he/they want to hear from EVERYONE!

So, if you haven't yet or lately, now is a good time to tell them once again

That accepting their mandate comes at a price.

and that price is a true public option that cuts costs and is available to ALL Americans.

If not every American individually then it must be available to everyone including employers so that their employees may be on the public plan. It is not going to create real competition if employers can't choose it.

Ried and Durbin said that using 'reconciliation' is still on the table. If we fight for it they will pass a health care bill and 'if' we fight for it, they may improve it before passing it using the 51 vote reconciliation process.

And if we jump on the house right now and tell them we aren't just going to sit back and accept their weak bill... it will improve.

When the Majority Leader of the House asks us for our help in putting pressure on our representatives, it gives you the sense that being bombarded by little people like us actually makes a difference.

It's 4th quarter, no time to let up. We'll have to fight for every yard:)

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I sure hope you are right. It sure the hell seems like it Sync. it really does.

SOMEBODY IS LISTENING.

THE CARNAGE MUST STOP

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And once again, here's the link to that poll and Dick Durbin's accompanying letter... boring stuff, granted, but necessary:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/kfreed/2009/10/got-an-opion-on-the-public-opt.php

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“No one to blame! That was why most people led lives they hated, with people they hated. How wonderful to have someone to blame! How wonderful to live with one's nemesis! You may be miserable, but you feel forever in the right. You may be fragmented, but you feel absolved of all the blame for it. Take your life in your own hands, and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame.”

Erica Jong

The health insurance companies have become the pissing-posts for our health insurance debacle here in the good ol' U.S.! Be careful...By focusing on HICs, we are hunting buffalo with a BB gun. Let's look at "all" of the culprits that have aided and abetted our descent to third world quality health care:

The patient:
Does the individual live a healthy life-style? Do we seek medical attention on a timely basis when anomalies become obvious or do we follow the path of those who make a doctors' appointment
every time we pass gas? Our health system must deal with deniers and hypochondriacs. In the military, we dealt with malingerers -- Those who, falsely, claimed illness or injury in order to avoid performing such duties as were assigned. How much of our taxes are dealt to those who could be productive, but have conned the system? I know of one legal action taken in Kentucky that charged a group of individuals outside of the Lexington vicinity that bought a few vans and contracted with the government to provide Medicare and Medicaid recipients transportation into Lexington for medical treatment. Upon receipt of a few dollars, the "volunteers" would be dropped-off at a Lexington mall and returned to their homes later that day. Uncle Sam paid an ample sum for that service! As neither Medicare nor Medicaid had the resources to audit such services, the fraud continued for years.

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Oh, plenty of blame to go around Chuck. I understand that.

But there is a real chance for reform here on so many levels. And as far as I am concerned, those who obstruct might just as well be shooting the unarmed diseased and the unarmed injured.

Too many dying. Too many sad, sad stories.

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dd: First, as i failed to do, I must commend you on this post. Secondly, I agree with you 100%. My previous comment was intended to play "the devils" advocate (as I suspect you knew!) When one is obsessed with materialism and believes that Ayn Rand wrote the Bible, what I wrote is a purely logical reason to starve those who are not able to survive within "Ayns'" system. I have been an observer (participant) in burying my mother, father, brother and sister in the past ten years...None of them died nicely. Although I do not practice nor proclaim knowledge relative to the medical profession, I am not blind to the greed of doctors, hospitals, medical suppliers, emergency transport providers and, even, those who provide solace to those who are grieving. Yet. in spite of the abuses, I agree with you. No individual should die because they don't have the bucks to live. Respectfully...

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Oh Chuck, I am familiar with your writing, for sure. There is permanent scarring on the living after the burying is done.

Thank you, as always, for taking the time to read and comment on my posts.

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Outstanding, dd! Outstanding!

You are so good at getting to the heart of things. And yes, I have sometimes cried with patients. And I have certainly cried at their funerals.

You're put your finger on the nub of the problem. It all comes down to compassion....

Heart.

Or heartless!

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How kind of you to drop by TheraP. I thought of you when I wrote this.

A surgeon cannot wince when she cuts open the chest of a heart patient.

A Therapist must deal with the real and the imagined and not confuse the two as the patient oft times does.

Structural distancing.

I just ran across General Dyer in the middle of the night and tracked down the script. Here was the British Empire at its worst. And the portrayal of Dyer by Ed Fox was soooooo superb.

And some of these repubs have that same lack of humanity TheraP.

See ya later.

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Dd, you are going to be amazed! Read this by Doxy, a tribute to a friend of hers who died due to poverty and lack of health care (and cancer). It's the reason Doxy is so passionate about this. (You might even want to add a link at the end of your post as her elegy of her friend is so, so close to what you've written about today.)

Here's the link:

http://wormwoodsdoxy.blogspot.com/2009/05/elegy.html

It's the most beautiful, poignant, and accusatory message I've read related to this whole sorry lack of what should be a human right!

Peace, my friend. I feel deeply, deeply moved tonight. Moved to tears. For so many reasons. Love and sadness and anguish that some don't feel love and sadness and compassion.

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Delightful blog site TheraP. Thank you very much.

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Glad we straightened that confusion out! (I better get some sleep here...)

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First this:
Lieberman: "When people hear public option, I think they think it's for free. It's not for free. Somebody is going to have to pay for it..."

The public option wouldn't be free and nobody ever said it would be. Those who apply would pay a reasonable, affordable premium, though what is meant by "reasonable" and "affordable" hasn't yet been hashed out. Furthermore, those who would not be able to manage the "affordable" premiums could apply for a federal subsidy.

Then this:
For some reason the references to the British Raj (and the film anology) put me in mind of another film: "Schindler's List." The ending of the movie always gets to me, particularly the scene where Oscar Schindler breaks down in tears and asks in shame, "This car... Why did I keep the car?" "I could have sold it," he says, "That's ten people... or this gold pin. That's two people... two lives... at least one. He would have given me at least one."

Perhaps, when its all said and done, Joe Lieberman will ask himself how many lives he could have saved... if only...

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Kfreed, this is like Shindler's list. I mean, who lives and who dies.

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Great post as usual Dickster . . .

Oh and .... it's not just the House and Senate that needs jumping on . . .

Make sure you take a read of John Nichols' piece at my post here today as reminder about dealing with the O-man.

And in closing... Noonan, Scarborough, McConnell and Lieberman plus a long laundry list of many others can go suck eggs, preferably alligator eggs. Hahahahahaha . . .

~OGD~

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Alligator eggs. Now you got me laughing. Just got up. Goin to your blog now.

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"Ready. Aim. Fire!" Professional distance indeed. Really well done Dick.

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Why thank you Miguel. Thank you so much for the kind words.

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I've got a companion to your blog up now, dd:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/therap/2009/10/the-reason-why.php

You've laid out why some are NOT for healthcare. And I'm giving "why" - and how that entails suffering... compassion.

I think some people refuse to let themselves suffer. And would rather others do it quietly, out of the way, where they don't have to be seen. That's how they can "keep their distance".

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