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CULPABILITY


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What if an attorney wrote a letter/memo to a client explaining how she did not have to withhold taxes on her employee's wages.  What if a lawyer wrote a memo telling the President of the United States that he should feel free to torture certain people as defined in the memo.


What if a lawyer went ahead and told the President of The United States of America that it was okay to tap every telephone or pc in the nation if his intent was good?

I came across this little tidbit from Huffpo today. Beck, someone whom the 50 states and federal government have denied a license to practice law, is telling people not to pay their taxes and then quoting as his source the Mahatma.

Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states Congress has the power to lay and collect taxes. Secondly, the 16th Amendment states: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." In other words, the income tax is constitutional if Congress wants to use that power. It has. If you don't like it, then I suggest you work to repeal the 16th Amendment and Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

The US code, (26 USC 6012) states: "Returns with respect to income taxes under subtitle A shall be made by the following:...Every individual having for the taxable year gross income which equals or exceeds the exemption amount, except that a return shall not be required of an individual." In other words if your income exceeds the exemption amount you have to file a return. That's the law.

Black's Law Dictionary (copyright 2004) provides the following definition of tax evasion: "The willful attempt to defeat or circumvent the tax law in order to illegally reduce one's tax liability." Put another way, if your intention is to not pay taxes when they are owed the government can hit you with fines and jail time.

However, taxpayers are allowed to plan their affairs to minimum their tax liability. This was the essential ruling in Gregory v. Helvering a 1935 Supreme Court case. That case stated, "The legal right of a taxpayer to decrease the amount of what otherwise would be his taxes, or altogether avoid them, by means which the law permits, cannot be doubted." If as a lawyer I engaged in any sentiment similar to what Mr. Beck is advocating I would be disbarred. Period. No ifs ands or buts. While I'm sure Mr. Beck does not see it that way, the reality is his statements are encouraging people to think about breaking the law.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hale-stewart/a-tax-lawyer-refutes-glen_b_209610.html

I have already, on too many occasions cited the times that beck or rush or savage or all of Fox Network would ask that our citizens break the law.

It was interesting here, anyway, that beck, who has the intelligence of a bottle of beer but delivers much less satisfaction, would cite Gandhi. Because Gandhi, like Martin Luther King or even Martin Luther, advocated the breaking of the law by the masses.  All three of course advocated lawful acts as well.

BUT ALL THREE ENDED UP IN PRISON FOR THEIR ADVOCACY. And they knew that that was a risk they should take in their advocation of equality, democracy or basic human rights.

Beck will advocate the shunning of a basic duty of every American Citizen. And he will be as blatant as to call for the assassination of Michael Moore.

Rush will advocate the destruction of a city like Denver for holding the Democratic Convention.

But as all good conservatives and repubs, NOT ONE OF THESE NAZIS would ever willingly go to the hoosegow for their advocacy. They have not the guts.

The principal argument of the paper is that abuses of Chinese lawyers are in some ways signals of (or result of) the progress that is being made in establishing China's legal system. Lawyers are intimidated and prosecuted because lawyers have become more proactive, aggressive and innovative in defending the rights of their clients and of their own, posing serious legal challenges that prosecution has never encountered before. This challenge is possible because criminal justice reform in China in the past ten years have created opportunities and incentives for a growing legal profession. Thus, the predicament of lawyers today should be examined in the context of a profession in fundamental transition. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=956500

I was thinking about this today. There is a wonderful movie with Richard Gere. He is an American Businessman, ready to make money for his fascist American company and runs into a murder charge that ends up being a cover up by some Chinese muckity muck. He is represented by a court appointed attorney (played by Bai Ling).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Corner

I love the movie for a million reasons. But the fact that some rich capitalist could not BUY JUSTICE was interesting.  EVERYBODY GETS COURT APPOINTED COUNSEL. Hahahaha

God I would love that here. Hahahaha. Madoff would still get 150 years but his entire family and everybody that ever worked for him would be in prison. HELL SO WOULD EVERYONE HE EVER KNEW.

But like our own court appointed attorneys, there are limits as to how far you are going to push the system.  Oh the repubs would have no problems jumping up and down about the lack of legal rights in Red China, as we like to call it.  But they have no problem legislating the Patriot Act and setting up 'tribunals' and such for 'terrorists' before they have been adjudicated terrorists.

I think I want to do a series on culpability. Culpability as a concept. Culpability for attorneys.

I mean if an attorney 'counsels' a corporation (a corporation for all those who refuse to see it is a 'concept' not a real person or thing) to hide its money in the Caymans or Switzerland or whatever.  Hell how much money, American capital, is hidden in China or Saudi for that matter?

Does anyone know where twelve billion dollars of our money is that was dumped on Bagdad streets?  How many American Enterprises got to that little pile of manna from the skies?

In April 2006, (some nurses) left their posts in protest over job conditions. The district attorney accused the nurses of abandoning their patients by leaving their shifts without giving administrators enough notice to find replacements.

And so were their attorneys.

They, along with Vinluan, were indicted in March 2007 on 13 counts, including charges of sixth-degree conspiracy, endangering the welfare of a child, and endangering the welfare of a physically disabled person. Vinluan, after hearing the nurses' complaints about substandard pay, poor living conditions, changes in work shifts and other alleged violations of their contracts, "advised them that they could resign if they wanted to as their contracts were already breached." http://www.jdjournal.com/2009/01/20/attorney-cannot-be-prosecuted-over-bad-advice/

More than one lawyer was pissed. http://federalism.typepad.com/crime_federalism/2009/01/lawyer-prosecuted-for-giving-legal-advice.html

It is always the powerless who are prosecuted. Either here or in Red China or in Saudi Arabia I suppose. The human condition.

I think I might continue in this vein and discuss the culpability of attorneys.  I will wrap this little rant up with F. Lee. Baily.

In 1994, while the O.J. Simpson case was being tried, Bailey and Robert Shapiro represented Claude DuBoc, an accused marijuana dealer. In a plea bargain agreement with the U.S. Attorney, DuBoc agreed to turn over his assets to the U.S. government. His assets included a large block of stock in BioChem, worth approximately $6 million at the time of the plea deal. When the government sought to collect the stock, it had increased in value to $20 million. Bailey claimed he was entitled to the appreciation in payment of his legal fees and refused to turn over the stock to the government. In 2000, he was sent to prison for contempt. After 44 days at the Federal Correctional Institution, Tallahassee, Bailey agreed to relinquish his claim to the stock and was freed.[2][3]

F. Lee ended up getting disbarred.

This all had to do with the RICO statute. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

Where did the attorneys for Madoff get their monies?

Where did AIG's attorneys get their monies?

Hell, where did ENRON's attorneys get their monies?

Just a thought as I ponder the conduct of Professor Yoo.


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Nice, Dickon.

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Well thank you for that Bwak!!!

ack ack ack

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Nailed it, there, DD. Civil disobedience, if it means anything, means being willing to take the weight for the act of disobedience. That's where the crazies fall down - they think they ought to be able to do what they want and not deal with the aftermath.

Gandhi and MLK knew far, far better. And did what they did themselves, instead of asking other to do it in their stead.

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YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, you wish to stand up for what is right, in your mind.

THEN TAKE A RISK.

No, there is no risk in demagoguery. Ha. Why should I remind you?

You already know this. hahahahahaahah

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Why, you're speaking of accountability. I concur.
The only thing I would remind you of is that the original act was approved by many Democrats, as was the re-authorization. If I read right, the Senate's amendments to protect individual rights were not included after Conference.
When the Dems do things right, I can applaud; when they are chicken-shit, I can't.

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oh yes Wendy. You know, you will never just hide behind some political wall.

Yes. Dems backed this goddamnable thing (blesses himself) that is the Patriot Act.

Remember though our president w kind of broke all boundaries here. No pretend court. No nothing.

Just tap those goddamnable messaging devices. ha

No warrants, nothing.

The dems did not vote for that Wendy.

NOBODY VOTED FOR IT.

And the son of a bitch (and yes Barabara was and is a bitch) just made up his own laws. And after lying about it, which he does to this day of course, he says he relied upon legal counsel before he made the decision.

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First kill all the lawyers....then all the bankers.


C

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hhahahaah. I used to be one. NOT A BANKER. HAHAHHAAH

no the bankers must go first.

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Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice. ~~H.D. Thoreau
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Well Flower, you made this easy, I hereby render unto you the Knightly Line of the Day Award for this here TPMCafe Site, given to all of you from all of me.

DELIGHTFUL FLOWER. HA

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Why, thank you, Mr. Day.

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Ok....you're a genius.

C

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NO WAY NO HOW.

But I does think about things sometimes
hahahaha

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Dick..I like this. Especially the part pointing out the lack of guts among the most passionate tight wing talking heads.

Do they even believe any of what they say? It seems to me they have found a gold mine and are milking the hell out of it.

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Hi Norse. oh and no, they do not believe one frickin sentence of it. NO WAY. ha

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But like our own court appointed attorneys, there are limits as to how far you are going to push the system.

It's off the main thread but our system for court appointed attorneys is a scandal in itself. In the current New York Review Anthony Lewis (who discussed the inception of the system 40 years ago in Gideon's Trumpet )describes how the CAA system has been perverted to the extent that more often than not those attorneys are essentially part of the (in)Justice System which railroads impoverished defendents into disproportionate jail terms

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Oh Flavius. I have no short term memory to speak of and I therefore apologize if i attacked your previous blog tooooooooo harshly.

But, no it has become a joke. On TV--Law & Order for instance with the benefit of good writing--we seek what a good attorney can accomplish against the arguments of a poorer attorney. Pun intended with regard to poor. ha

Gideon;s trumpet is a favorite of mine--Fonda starred if I recall correctly. Demonstrating the difference between good counsel and bad.

Justice Black would carry a copy of our constitution in his back pocket and declare that a simple letter from a nobody was a writ of certiari. hahahaha.

We shall never see those days again Flavius. Never.

A damn shame I say.,

Douglas and Black could just say FUCK YOU.

They would create their own reality in a system of unreality. It was a thing to behold. To read those decisions sometimes, brought such tears to my eyes....

Those days are done. The best we could ever ever hope for would be a five to four liberal constituency. Maybe, ten years down the line something would change.

Thank you for bringing up Gideon and Hugo Black...I become so full of despair sometimes over a system that no one really even understands anymore.

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Absolutely no apology required . My position was debatable and creates the appearance of defending an assortment of loathsome characters in whose company Cheney definitely belongs.
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As to the Court Appointment Attorney situation what we've made of it seems to me ( strike that, just say IS ) unconstitutional.

Gideon held that our adverserial system requires every defendent to be well represented. That's the Law. (Bear in mind that adverserial characteristic is uniquely anglo saxon-Germany for example has nothing like it.)

By underfunding it or worse by coopting the CAAs as Anthony Lewis describes we've created a faux adverserial system no better than that in any dictatorship. And one which flouts the Law as prescribed by that Warren Court.

It seems hopeless to ever get back not to a Liberal Court, even to a thoughtful Conservative one.There are signs Stevens' preparing to resign to make sure Obama gets to nominate his replacement ;Ginsberg's in poor health . Roberts, Alito and Thomas will stay forever. However long that gang stays will seem like forever. Even Scalia
and Kennedy could last to the next Republican President . It's hopeless.


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It has seemed so hopeless for soooooo long. It is funny because last night I started working on a blog about the Supreme Court. hahaha

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Does anyone know where twelve billion dollars of our money is that was dumped on Bagdad streets?

See, dd, I have questioned this countless times and not once have I seen a conservative tea party where the attendees are hot and bothered by that missing money.

They want to reform the entire financial system if one welfare mother receives one dollar more than she should have in a month, but 12 billion missing in Iraq is nothing to worry about.

Do conservatives have values, family or otherwise?

And CT is still an ass ... hat.

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THERE YA GO AGAIN WITH THE SAME CONCLUSION. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I cannot control myself everytime I see this. hahahaha

NO WHERE IN THE FUCK DID THAT MONEY GO?

It went into the pockets of corporate bastards--for sure seashell. damn it enrages me. hahaha

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That Seashell's got damned fine logic, eh?

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Wags tail. Thanks to you and dd, my logic skills have improved. Friendships are improving also. Everyone agrees with me. Try it!

And CT is still is an ass ... ø

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Given the circumstances we find oursselves in, not paying taxes sounds perfectly logical to me. On a number of important issues the public sentiment, supported by polling data, has made clear the desires of a significant majority of citizens. Yet we have congress ignoring the voices of citizens. Not to mention that congress, in conjunction with Wall Street, has lost us a ton of our hard earned savings. The decision to pay taxes or not seems to me to be one we have a right to exercise when the actions of our elected officials stand in clear defiance of what the public has stated. In the end it would seem it's the only real leverage we have left. Add to this the issue of congress being very clearly bribed by entities which purport to be citizens but which hardly meet the criteria, think nothing of it, and we have been left little recourse except to wield the one weapon they've left us. It's ironic too, that our money has been used by congress and Wall Street to our disadvantage. That most assuredly works both ways.

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Now there's a proposal we can all get behind!

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Pretty decent logic as far as I am concerned. If a government really believed that the citizenry would be that cooperative in all of this it would not have mandated withholding for all the peons. haah

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Have to take exception to your rating beck's intelligence to that of a bottle of beer. A can of beer? Possibly, certainly not a bottle of of beer.

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Well, some bottles of beer do appear to have some character. ha

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Have to agree with Jonnie that a bottle is more worthy of a good beer. Come down to it if you had to choose, which canned beer would you want to be? I hate Miller High Life, even if it is available in bottles. I wish I could get the old Molson's Export or the real Tuborg they have in Denmark.

Intelligencewise Beck is not worth canine micturition.


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