The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys
A man is born gentle and weak.
At his death, he is hard and stiff.
Green plants are supple and filled with sap.
At their death they are withered and dry.
Therefore the stiff and unbending is the disciple of death.
The gentle and yielding is the disciple of life.
Thus an army without flexibility never wins a battle.
A tree that is unbending is easily broken
The hard and strong will fall.
The soft and weak will overcome.
Tao Te Ching (Ch-76)
If I gave you everything that I owned
And asked for nothing in return
Would you do the same for me as I would for you
Or take me for a ride
And strip me of everything, including my pride
But spirit is something that no one destroys
And the sound that I'm hearing is only the sound
Of the low spark of high-heeled boys
Heeled boys
Steve Winwood
This song from Traffic has always been fascinating to me. I
found a story in Wikipedia about all this. I mean I thought it had something to
do with some gay prostitution ring. And the pimp is eventually killed by a
weapon with a silencer.
Pollard and I would sit around writing lyrics all day, talking about Bob Dylan and the Band, thinking up ridiculous plots for the movie. Before I left Morocco, Pollard wrote in my book 'The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys.' For me, it summed him up. He had this tremendous rebel attitude. He walked around in his cowboy boots, his leather jacket. At the time he was a heavy little dude. It seemed to sum up all the people of that generation who were just rebels. The 'Low Spark,' for me, was the spirit, high-spirited. You know, standing on a street corner. The low rider. The 'Low Spark' meaning that strong undercurrent at the street level.[citation needed
The song always haunted me. "What is jazz?" C asked me, when I asked him what Zen was. I said: "The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys." C said: " Good enough for me."
I was going to just quote the above zen-like verse and go onto other things when I caught this article at The Nation. One of those seven pagers about Blackwater, a company I have written about before. And something clicked.
The article is more than 3 years old now.
Blackwater is in trouble right now. At least what is left of it.
Seventeen 'innocents' died in Iraq on September 16, 2007. Five soldiers are indicted and another pled guilty.
Blackwater claimed the convoy was attacked by armed insurgents, but Iraqi officials immediately denied that. As Jeffrey Taylor, U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, where the case will be tried, said: "None of the victims of this shooting was armed. None of them was an insurgent. Many were shot while inside civilian vehicles that were attempting to flee from the convoy. One victim was shot in the chest while standing in the street with his hands up. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9840
Indeed, Blackwater issued a statement that, in part, said, "Blackwater is extremely disappointed and surprised to learn that an individual independent contractor has said he committed wrongdoing related to his activities on Sept. 16, 2007. If true, at the time of the incident and in the months that followed, this individual gave false information to the company to conceal that behavior. Both the conduct itself and misleading Blackwater after the fact would violate the high standards of conduct required of each Blackwater independent contractor."
See what Blackwater did. It distances itself from 'the sin' through legal documents, through obfuscation. Makes me sick. Its like those kids at GTMO. Rummy and cheney and gonzo and yoo all set it up for torture at strongholds around the globe. Pursuant to direct order manuals are printed. In the end the kids get the shaft and the pigs go scott free.
This would not be the first time Blackwater has tried to put some distance between itself and its contractors. Earlier this year U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Calif., released a memorandum stating his committee had obtained evidence indicating Blackwater may have improperly designated its security guards as independent contractors rather than employees in order to avoid paying and withholding federal taxes. That was old news. But, according to the memo, "Blackwater has asserted ... that its security guards are independent contractors because the company does not exercise sufficient control over their activities in Iraq and Afghanistan. Blackwater has claimed in official communications that its security guards are 'in no way directly supervised or controlled by Blackwater'; that they 'do not report to any of the Blackwater entities regarding their work in the field'; and that they 'do not report to Blackwater regarding their operations in country.' Blackwater has also claimed that it 'plays no role in the development or planning of the contractors' security missions' and 'has little if any knowledge regarding the location or activities of these independent contractors.' According to Blackwater, its 'only real involvement is to pay the independent contractors.'" http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9840
What part did our government play in all of this?
...in the end it may very well be that the security guards were entirely at fault, but it must be noted that for a long time some, including those in the private security industry itself, have believed the immunity Blackwater received under its State Department contract encouraged it to emphasize its mission -- the protection of its clients -- to the exclusion of all other considerations: a sort of "shoot first, ask questions later" attitude.
But there are some witnesses that have been killed. And I think Blackwater is in deeper doo doo than this article says. See: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/dikkday48yahoocom/2009/08/the-black-prince.php#comments
The head of Blackwater and his employees may have killed or ordered the killing of people suspected of cooperating with federal investigators probing their activities, according to an anonymous affidavit filed in federal court Monday. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=8258915&page=1
The affidavit, one of two filed Monday, makes an extraordinary bundle of claims about the former Blackwater CEO, Erik Prince, and his employees. The existence of the documents was first reported by the Nation magazine Tuesday. They were filed as part of a civil suit against Prince and Blackwater by several Iraqis, which accuse the firm and owner of war crimes, wrongful death and more.
The men gave the affidavits as "John Doe" and "John Doe 2," saying they feared for their safety. "Mr. Prince's management has personally threatened me with death and violence," wrote Doe 2. He says also that others told him "Mr. Prince and his employees murdered, or had murdered" one or more people who had cooperated with the feds, or were planning to.
THE NATION
17 innocents die and 6 soldiers face 340 years.
What was it like to be in the shoes of the soldiers hired by Blackwater? How on earth did 6 goooooooooood soldiers, men who fought valiantly for this country, some who did so for as long as a decade end up like this?
Okay. So this three year old article is old news is it? Remember Erik Prince is under indictment and claims he has stepped down as CEO. The guy inherited at least 100 million and built up his own army on American soil. Employees attended mandatory prayer meetings as well as debriefing or propaganda sessions. Blackwater was the assassination squad cheney had planned to build. For chrissakes, Blackwater actually signed its contracts with cheney's own company. Remember the company for some 7 years received all its money as a subcontractor of Halliburton. Oh and it looks like there were other Blackwaters, other assassination squads and their names will come to light at a later date along with their affiliations:
Even more troubling, I think we will find out that in the unraveling of the Bush years, Blackwater was not the worst of the contractors, some of which did reportedly end up carrying out their assigned hits. http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/dikkday48yahoocom/2009/08/the-black-prince.php#comments http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1917759,00.html
Let me go back to Winwood a minute. This song could be seen as a story about gay prostitution of course. The low spark according to the co author was kind of the 'life force' concept you might find in D.H. Lawrence or Nietzsche. A 19th century perspective.
The pimps can use this life force, they can find these high heeled boys and make some damn good money.
If you see something that looks like a star
And it's shooting up out of the ground
And your head is spinning from a loud guitar
And you just can't escape from the sound
Don't worry too much, it'll happen to you
We were children once, playing with toys
These children do not know the power they had. The talent.
The value. They are confused and are guided to a place they
should never have gone with false promises along with the
constraints of poverty and wanderlust. Some of them rather
young and playing with toys; the toys of patriotism, the toys
of religious zealotry, the toys of mass destruction. The article in The Nation gives individual examples of the men
involved. Some might have ten solid years of experience as
soldiers in the Army, Navy, Marines or Air Force. They ran
into trouble. They ended up divorced with alimony and support
payments due. The service did not pay them enough money to
handle these problems and Blackwater was there to use their life
force to its own advantage. Some had less experience but had a wanderlust and wanted
to experience the life of a Templar, bringing Christianity to the
Pagan Muslim. And they really thought that Saddam had
something to do with Al Qaeda....with the bombing of the
Twin Towers and the Pentagon and Blackwater fostered
all of these lies.
I submit that the real investigation of this corporate army--
with no real allegiance to America since it is multi-national--
began with a civil suit by the families of the deceased soldiers
who were hoodwinked by false promises. By the by, whenever
you hear those two words 'tort reform' think twice before you
jump on the bandwagon. Civil suits oft times ignite further
investigations by D.A's and justice is eventually served.But in this instance:
More than 428 private contractors have been killed to date in Iraq, and US taxpayers are footing almost the entire compensation bill to their families. "This is a precedent-setting case," says Marc Miles, an attorney for the families. "Just like with tobacco litigation or gun litigation, once they lose that first case, they'd be fearful there would be other lawsuits to follow."
The families' two-year quest to hold those responsible accountable has taken them not to Falluja but to the sprawling Blackwater compound in North Carolina. As they tell it, after demanding answers about how the men ended up dead in Falluja that day and being stonewalled at every turn, they decided to conduct their own investigation. "Blackwater sent my son and the other three into Falluja knowing that there was a very good possibility this could happen," says Katy Helvenston, the mother of 38-year-old Scott Helvenston, whose charred body was hung from the Falluja bridge. "Iraqis physically did it, and it doesn't get any more horrible than what they did to my son, does it? But I hold Blackwater responsible one thousand percent."
Big, high priced law firms, invested millions in this case knowing it would drag on and on and on. But think about this, our country is paying the bills on all this. Amazing is it not. The idea of 'outsourcing'; that wondrous vision of rummy and cheney was to save taxpayers money. Governmental pensions and as well as union safe guards cause us to lose so much money. But get a good capitalist enterprise involved and what happens. Things are streamlined. In other words, the workers get the shaft. But in this instance, the taxpayers are paying the survivors. This is before the suit ever happened.
Just a point here. OUTSOURCING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STREAMLINING. IT IS THE BEST WAY TO GET GOVERNMENTAL HANDOUTS TO CORPORATE FRIENDS OF THE POLITICIANS AND TO ATTEMPT TO LAY THE BLAME ON AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR RATHER THAN THE POLITICIAN RUNNING THE AGENCY. Do not ever forget that. Outsourcing is a fricking sham of the first magnitude. It is a sin against man and god.
Now these attorneys were attempting to nail Blackwater for being a substantial contributing factor in the deaths of the soldiers, its own employees, on the basis of fraud, nondisclosure of risk....basically intentional as well as negligent conduct and they got their suit started in Erik Prince's back yard. I assume they sued Erik Prince individually as well as the corp and all of its ghost corps as well as other individuals. Remember also that individual responsibility is an issue with regard to any corporate suit or suit against the government. The courts kept closing the doors on suits against cheney and rummy and feith and Bolton as well as others over the last eight years. It is just that Prince's original training camp was built upon land he inherited in North Carolina. It would also be of importance to note that this is yet another difference between the two Carolinas because South Carolinian Courts would have dumped this mess two days after filing.
What exactly is being alleged in these suits?
It seemed relevant to me that Blackwater had been rather duplicitous in its dealings with our government (Pentagon) even though it was supposedly a subcontractor in that its direct contracts were with a go between, usually Halliburton or some ghost corp of Halliburton. This is of import to the US Taxpayers, but also shows a regular pattern of fraud, deceit and just plain theft.
Now the Black Prince is promising to pay the professional soldiers six hundred dollars a day for their work. The trips to Iraq were short junkets of a couple of months. But Blackwater charged the government $815 dollars a day. No there were no costs to Blackwater because all incidentals including clothing and food and transportation and paper clips were also accounted for (hahahahaha) and the corp was duly reimbursed. And reimbursed some more. And reimbursed some more. So this was just a plain outright goddamanable lie on the part of Balckwater. There is no defense to this as far as claims by our government. None.
And it demonstrates a pattern of deceit which is admissible in court and which the families could claim that the soldiers should have received the difference or two hundred a day. Now we get to the meat, or at least a part of it. Original contracts with the government called for armored cars to be used by these soldiers. Somehow down the line to Blackwater's subcontract, the word 'armored' was taken out of the contract. By doing this slight of hand Blackwater made an extra 1.5 million.
You see the survivors are saying that the soldiers had been promised armored vehicles and that some of the deaths were directly a result of the fact that the cars were not armored. See? And the soldiers had been promised the armor in their contracts with Blackwater.
Shortly after Helvenston left that message, the men left the base and set out for their destination. Without a detailed map, they took the most direct route, through the center of Falluja. According to Callahan, there was a safer alternative route that went around the city, which the men were unaware of because of Blackwater's failure to conduct a "risk assessment" before the trip, as mandated by the contract. The suit alleges that the four men should have had a chance to gather intelligence and familiarize themselves with the dangerous routes they would be traveling. This was not done, according to Miles, "so as to pad Blackwater's bottom line" and to impress ESS with Blackwater's efficiency in order to win more contracts. The suit also alleges that McQuown "intentionally refused to allow the Blackwater security contractors to conduct" ride-alongs with the teams they were replacing from Control Risk Group. (In fact, the suit contends that Blackwater "fabricated critical documents" and "created" a pre-trip risk assessment "after this deadly ambush occurred.")
See, you tell the government through the forms and all that you have spent money doing reconnaissance, and risk assessments and whatever. You do not perform these tasks of course. People die. But what the hell, you make more money. So we are dealing with more here than the indictments regarding the deaths of innocent civilians by soldiers working for Blackwater. Blackwater was killing its own employees, walking away from the deaths and putting the financials back in the hands of the government.
This article is soooooooo enlightening. First it makes it clear what Blackwater was doing. Second it demonstrates that Blackwater cut corners in violation of the promises it had
made to the soldiers IN ORDER TO MAKE MORE MONEY. Other promises had been made and subsequently broken take a look at the article of course. But that brings us to:
And the thing that you're hearing is only the sound
Of the low spark of high-heeled boys
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
The Black Prince was receiving to high a percentage in all of this.
He purchased islands and citizenship in other lands as well as ships
and weapons.......But Blackwater was using these soldiers after
luring them into hell will false promises. And pain and suffering
and death were a direct result of this subterfuge. But today you just read that the man was shot dead
By a gun that didn't make any noise
But it wasn't the bullet that laid him to rest
Was the low spark of high-heeled boys
Indictments are being brought, men are going to jail,
Prince is no longer CEO. And what was the cause of the demise
of Blackwater? Well first Blackwater is very much alive and
will continue to be until all government contracts are performed
and paid. But I would certainly say that the end of Prince was
not a bullet from a gun that did not make any noise, but from
the low spark of high heeled boys. The spirits of these
brave soldiers are arising from the graves with one aim,
destroy Blackwater. This line particularly got to me from the article:
Thus began the legal battle between Blackwater and the dead men's families. In one of its few statements on the suit, Blackwater spokesperson Chris Bertelli said, "Blackwater hopes that the honor and dignity of our fallen comrades are not diminished by the use of the legal process." Katy Helvenston calls that "total BS in my opinion," and says that the families decided to sue only after being stonewalled, misled and lied to by the company. "Blackwater seems to understand money. That's the only thing they understand," she says. "They have no values, they have no morals. They're whores. They're the whores of war."
The whores of war I am afraid were the soldiers risking their lives for six hundred a day. Blackwater was the pimp.
If you had just a minute to breathe
And they granted you one final wish
Would you ask for something like another chance
Or something similar as this
Don't worry too much, it'll happen to you
As sure as your sorrows or joys
And the thing that disturbs you is only the sound
Of the low spark of high-heeled boys
High-heeled boys
If I gave you everything that I owned
And asked for nothing in return
Would you do the same for me as I would for you
Or take me for a ride
And strip me of everything, including my pride
But spirit is something that no one destroys
And the sound that I'm hearing is only the sound
Of the low spark of high-heeled boys
Heeled boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVlbgqmxXNY
Blackwater is not dead yet. But that really is a subject for another post.
Just days before two former Blackwater employees alleged in sworn statements filed in federal court that the company's owner, Erik Prince, "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," the Obama administration extended a contract with Blackwater for more than $20 million for "security services" in Iraq, according to federal contract data obtained by The Nation. The State Department contract is scheduled to run through September 3. In May, the State Department announced it was not renewing Blackwater's Iraq contract, and the Iraqi government has refused to issue the company an operating license. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/07/just-days-before-being-ac_n_254464.html
"The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" was written by Jim Capaldi and Steve Winwood. In addition to being performed solo by Capaldi and Winwood after the breakup of Traffic, the song has been covered by Rickie Lee Jones[1],Widespread Panic[2], and The Dead[3], among others.
















Or, more concisely, it's only real role is taking a portion of the dollars from the federal government before they get to the subcontractor. Other then that, they're not doing a DAMN THING!!!
August 24, 2009 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
See, they have a word for this Gregor:
BULLSHIT
August 24, 2009 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is complete B.S., too. They are a security team in a terribly hostile environment, but they don't know what the members of that team are doing, or how they interact with one another?
It sounds like some wild, masturbatory dream of corporate non-responsibility. A judge and a jury might not be climaxing along with them, however.
August 24, 2009 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
dd
It's my understanding that Blackwater has changed name to Xe and is back in business just as before.
Supposedly, there was no real competition for the government contracts for the 'jobs' contract as cited and needed.
Is Blackwater really just providing the same 'services' as the CIA has allegedly been engaged in since it's inception?
If I had to choose only one person to put on trial and hold accountable for all the evil, it would (hands down) be Dick Cheney. No contest. But, to be clear, without doubt, George W. Bush, while only a puppet, did in his capacity as POTUS give Cheney unfettered reign and that is why he would be my second choice.
The truth is there will always be what is referred to as Black Ops programs and processes enacted without true accountability.
Excellent Post (So sorry it needed to be published!)
Thanks. Strongly Rec'd.
August 24, 2009 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Auntie, I agree with you on this 100%.
August 24, 2009 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
LisB, always count on my LisB.
Who is on first?
Who is in charge?
August 24, 2009 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, maybe I'm not giving W enough credit, but Blackwater/Xe is more tied to Cheney than to Bush, and I truly think that, in his first term, anyway, W relied so much on Cheney that he became nothing more than Cheney's puppet. So, that's why I have to agree with Auntie Sam on this one.
I'd rather see Cheney get prosecuted first, myself.
August 24, 2009 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheney didn't push the effort to get evangelicals into government. That was Bush's initiative. They both agreed that outsourcing solved the problems of government, just as they agreed that when DHS was created it would not be unionized and civil service regs were relaxed. Blackwater was at least as much Bush's as it was Cheney's, probably more.
Bush appeared to be a hands-off leader, but that was primarily because Cheney set things up so that he had plausible deniability. Bush's skill set is sociability, not analytical or bureaucratic skills. But Bush approved every dispicible thing his government did or he approved the individuals appointed to do those things. He's not dumb. It's just that his specific Intelligences are different from those of Cheney.
August 24, 2009 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I might have to disagree, depending on what "dumb" means to you; Dubya is not intelligent, but he is shrewd, much like his poppa, who was at least "smarter." Shrewd to be connotes understanding, with some coaching, which the "angles to play," and what notions people can be suckered into. Like his version of Christianity, and his version of mea culpa sobriety, etc. I really do wonder, but suppose I know, what sort of mother Barbara was. I shudder.
August 24, 2009 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
While Secretary of Defense (1989-1993), Cheney paid Halliburton almost nine million dollars for two classified studies on strategies for outsourcing support tasks like food preparation, laundry and latrine cleaning. The Army Corp of Engineers then selected Halliburton for a five year support contract in August of 1992, based on Halliburton's own study that had effectively created the market.
August 25, 2009 5:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seashell--
First help.
Second, I cite this all the time but with no cite/ link. hhahaah
Cheney paid halliburton/kbr/the devil 9 mill--I kept saying 7--FOR A GODDAMN ADVERTISEMENT. (blesses himself)
I keep forgetting that when I cant find something ask you. hahahaha
August 25, 2009 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Prince and his ilk are fundamentalists, not evangelicals. It is hard to have a reasonable debate on things like this when such wide-spread confusion exists about the basic identity of the people we are discussing.
August 25, 2009 8:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think thousands are at fault here Auntie. Those who stood by. Justice at Nuremberg is a good read and Judgement at Nuremberg is a great book.
I was just following orders.
I just am damn sick of victims --a lot of these soldiers--will be thrown under the tank.
w was the Commander In Chief for chrissakes. (blesses himself)
August 24, 2009 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just a note, because the term creates an inaccurate picture and soldiers really do not deserve to be tarnished with the disagraceful deeds of Blackwater. A soldier fights for thir country. Anyone fighting for Blackwater is NOT a soldier. They are merely contrators, hired guns.
August 24, 2009 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a good distinction to make, Gregor.
August 24, 2009 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what a mercenary is. Someone who fights for money instead of loyalty or patriotism.
Those guys were bought to fight.
August 24, 2009 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
And they got what they bought.
I have no sympathy for gired killers. My only support for getting them the justice they "deserve" is becaues it means nailing the vicious nasties at the top of the vile occupation.
August 24, 2009 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, dick, it has been going on for so long now. During Iran Contra days it was more covert, but we have graduated to mercenary work as a budget expense. Contracts. Patriotism-for-hire. Blackwater may indeed turn out to be just the tip of the iceberg. Thanks for reiterating that these are multi-national forces; that fact disgusts me even more. There are further relatively untouched stories about the amount of slave labor used to build the Mega-base in Bagdad; who will dig out and tell more of those stories? And the many "terrorists" who were sold by the Tribal Warlords in Afghanistan to the Americans for cash dollahs. I forget how many dollahs you got for selling your competitors down the river and into black-ops prisons in Yemen or the former Soviet country.
Thanks for the Stevie Winwood; I was hunting for a clip of The Great Mandela, but his'll have to do. I sure asks the right questions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gYa5wq_x_o
August 24, 2009 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes Wendy, I have to agree, everything is more BLATANT. Right out in the open.
And the Pentagon was putting protection language in the contracts. Language to protect the hired guns from lawsuits.
TORT REFORM
August 24, 2009 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
What gets me is that some of Blackwater's mercenaries are from the palace guards of Latin American dictators and from the disbanded forces of South Africa.
How much consideration or patriotism do you think any of those individuals have for America? At least the French Foreign Legion provided a way to become a French citizen, demanded that the recruits learn the French language and had them fight as official French Troops. Not Blackwater. Those people were not American at all. They were paid mercenaries.
The Bush administration who used them knew they did not want American patriots.
August 24, 2009 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes Richard. No allegiance.
Pushing Christianity.
Really nihilists in the worst sense of the word.
August 24, 2009 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to mention the veterans of Milosevic's atrocities in the Balkans. Blackwater assembled a global, evil force like no one else in history. He is the Dark Price, and Cheney the Dark Lord.
August 25, 2009 1:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Blackwater came about do to the end of the draft. In stead of brainwashing high school kids into massacring civilians, they hire outside contractors to do it.
Of course the military loves this concept since it keeps the powers that be well away from the dirty work if someone spills the beans.
August 24, 2009 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is true C. The entire thing was planned and was being planned thirty years ago by THE SAME GODAMN PEOPLE. JEEEEEEEZ
August 24, 2009 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
It also means that you don't have any soldiers who are trained to refuse illegal orders. Wouldn't what that in Bush's right-wing invasion of Iraq, now would you?
August 24, 2009 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "right wing" couldn't have invaded anybody without significant assistance from the left wing.
If America's democratic party had voted against the war, to a person, we would have never gone. Time for both sides to take responsibility, not to mention the voters. Most of the democrats who voted for the war are still in office, so how important is that issue to the majority of democrats, really?
I have done more than the average democrat to stop the war and all I did was march in a couple protests a few years back. Seems to be that there is plenty of hypocrisy to go around for both parties when it comes to our love affair with war.
Our last illegal war was promoted and escalated by a democrat after all. This is not a left-right issue.
August 25, 2009 8:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Overlooks the obvious that this war in Iraq was (is) a war of choice. I did not see any Democrats choosing to go to war in Iraq - in fact, I suspect going to war in Iraq was the furthest thing from their mind before the neo-cons and Cheney, et. al., presented them with a wholly bogus and fraudulent case of WMD as a justification to invade and then forced a vote on the war on the eve of Congressional elections.
Do the Dems bear some responsibility for acting out of fear about the GOP threat to demagogue this vote on this fraudulent war by accusing them of being "soft on terror" if they voted against the war? Of course they do, and I still find it to be one of the most shameful acts of mass cowardice we've witnessed in Congress.
But the war itself can be pretty much laid at the feet of Bush/Cheney and the fear-mongering "patriots" who manufactured an excuse to invade Iraq and who cooked up false expectations for its consequences (i.e. "They will welcome us as liberators." "The war will be paid for out of Iraqi oil revenues." etc.)
Sorry, jason, but your extreme effort to find bi-partisanship in everything - including responsibility for the Bush/Cheney crimes - has no basis in reality in this case. Better luck next time.
August 25, 2009 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am trying to find something that will bring you down off your high-horse when discussing these issues. You are so far left that you are beginning to sound like your counterparts on the far right. When and where is the bonfire for all the witches you are sure to find by pursuing this myopic path of partisan warfare.
Congress is responsible for maintaining the war, each and every year, and for approving contracts like the ones that go to Prince and his merry band of crusaders. Our last illegal war of this nature was started by democrats. A fact you continue to gloss over. A democrat dropped two nuclear weapons when he didn't have to and was advised by his republican military commanders that it was totally unnecessary. A democratic president - one of our best - locked up hundreds of thousands of Japanese and German Americans in internment camps. Bill Clinton was the most authentically republican president since Nixon.
I have yet to absolve anyone of anything, including Bush and Cheney, yet you refuse to apply an ounce of objectivity when trying to place the blame for every bad thing in this country at the feet of conservatives, rather than where it rightly belongs which as the feet of us all. This country's misery has been created with a bipartisan enthusiasm for self flagellation and failure to live up to our potential. Mostly because of the lunatics populating the fringes of both parties who maintain a stubborn grasp on their preconceived notions for every debate and won't budge an inch from those lines drawn in quicksand.
I would offer you a mirror, but it would certainly go unused.
August 25, 2009 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hi Jason--
Even with software problems, I know I put together a good post when my friends Jason and Sleepin get to arguing. hahahahaha
There are dems involved in this Jason. Of course there are. I am to lazy to reread my text right now for the fiftieth time.
I am talking about w's admin here. I mentioned no Senators or REps although some were involved. I have no doubt.
There has beentoooooooo much outsourcing for thrity years. It is a disgrace. But Truman was really involved in investigating his own party and the masters of war who were cheating the taxpayers and they were dems.
But Jason, this is w's admin along with the far right and the dirty far right evangelicals.
Always good to see ya Jason.
August 25, 2009 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
No argument that W is the latest in a long line of imperial presidents. That his was also the worst of the lot is hardly a surprise. I am actually grateful they were so brazen, though, rather than being overly concerned about their prosecution.
Much of the dirty little secrets going on behind the scenes where finally brought into the light because they had such enormous egos. Some with the Rapture Right and their nonsense. How much longer would it have stayed hidden had the Bush Junta et al followed the script laid out by all the administrations before them?
America had to hit rock bottom before we could start the process of rebuilding. These crimes will continue to come to light and they may lead to massive amounts of indictments, but to continue the acrimony at the grassroots level will ensure we never truly move on. Further, many moderate conservatives are going to be as angry about democratic hypocrisy as democrats are about republican failings.
This almost ensures that we won't move past this moment in time unless we all somehow figure out a way to take responsibility for the part we played, major or minor. For most Americans is will involve an acknowledgment that they rarely voted when it was plain their "leaders" were only in it for themselves and their narrowly-defined special interests.
The only time I try and remind the democratic faithful of their side's skeletons is when the long, sad story of partisan politics and the continued screwing of We The People somehow started in 2001 instead of 1776.
August 25, 2009 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Jason, I forgot. dems and repubs who sit on the sidelines are guilty. Right now they are guilty including those who were not in gov at the time.
Oh this will hurt national security.
Oh this will hurt the status quo.
Oh this will hurt the DOJ and OLC
Oh this will hurt the Pentagon.
Oh this will hurt......pick your agency.
And dems had their own outsourcers making money on all of this.
No this is not dem and repub right now.
This concerns problems above and beyond party issues.
OF COURSE I STILL HATE THE REPUBS.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
August 25, 2009 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Enough of the "Oh, you nasty librul ideologue" b.s. from you. Myopic, again? Again with the claim that your opponents are myopic, jason? I'd point out that "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." It would therefore seem that myopic is preferable to being totally clueless because you can't see for having your head shoved so far up your arse.
To your alleged point (made crayola on art paper crystal-clear for you): I allowed for the fact that the Dems are guilty of tremendous cowardice in not confronting Bush/Cheney in their headlong pursuit of the War of Choice in Iraq. But this was INDEED a war of choice, and it was not the Dems making the choice to invade - nor was it the Dems cooking up the lies and the criminal fraud and the fear-mongering sufficient to "sell" this war to the American people as a necessary (oh, and btw "inexpensive") next step to protect us from terrorists and other boogey-men.
So please get up from where you are continually run over there in the middle of the road and take a look at the landscape. You will find that Bush/Cheney are indeed responsible for dragging this country into their war of choice, and they should be called to account for it lest we establish this kind of behavior in the Executive as just the way we do business in Washington.
Also, your expressed claim that Bush/Cheney are simply another in a long line of Imperial Executives in the White House is an insult to all who preceded them. But it shows just how corrupting to democracy it is when you stand willing to overlook such abuses as we've witnessed these last eight-plus years.
August 25, 2009 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, very predictable. Every president before Bush was perfectly justified in crushing the Constitution beneath their best intentions. Myopic doesn't even begin to describe the world view inherent in this comment.
August 25, 2009 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
(NOTE: This is posted as a continuation of a discussion that appears earlier in this thread)
At long last, jason, I think you have finally succeeded in delineating the difference between you (the "pragmatic centrist") and me (the "partisan warrior, ideological left wing radical").
Although you admit that Bush/Cheney were perhaps the "worst of the lot" of Imperial Presidents, you nevertheless draw a moral equivalence between their alleged crimes and misdemeanors (intentional verbiage) and the failings of all past Administrations.
On this basis, you insist that any call for investigation and prosecution of Bush/Cheney and their cabal for their alleged crimes is nothing more than an ill-advised partisan attack. "They all do it!" is your signature claim. It is therefore hypocritical to insist on holding Bush/Cheney accountable for committing acts of a kind that others have committed previously without consequence.
For the sake of argument, let's pretend you are correct in your assertion that "they all do it." There is much we have yet to learn about just how depraved the Bush/Cheney Administration were in terms of human rights abuses; violation of law; abuse of the Constitution; etc. Yet, what we do know is sufficient to make previous scandals such as Watergate seem like high school hijinx. We know these abuses to challenge the very foundation of our democracy. We know that they violate nearly every principle of good government passed down to us from our Founders. It is deeply apparent how such abuses - if left unchecked - can only serve to undermine government "Of the People, By the People, and for the People." We know we are better than this.
Yet, you would have us simply "get over it" - or at least not let concern about such abuses get in the way of bi-partisanship required to get the "real work of government" accomplished, such as "Health Insurance Industry Profit Enhancement Reform." According to you, precedents for such activities have been established by all the "Imperial Presidencies" that came before Bush/Cheney, and so it is appropriate that we cut them the same slack as we did all the others. To do otherwise would simply be a partisan assault that forfeits any legitimacy because we (We? see below) remained silent in response to all these other abuses.
Furthermore, you insist we have no legitimate right to complain about such abuses until we raise the number of voters who participate in elections or we otherwise "all somehow figure out a way to take responsibility for the part we played, major or minor."
I, on the other hand, continue to scream and kick and complain and agitate for a full accounting and prosecution of abuses during the Bush/Cheney years. I also continue to insist that this is a top priority; that there can be no greater responsibility for a republic to remain viable than to remain eternally vigilant against abuses by those who would corrupt its basic principles.
I am and will continue to be obnoxious and loud and demanding and even uncompromising in my defiance of corruption and malfeasance - just as I was during the 60's with LBJ and MacArthur over VietNam. Just as I was with Nixon over Watergate. Just as I was with Reagan over Iran/Contra. Just as I was with Clinton - not as a member of the GOP "Impeachment in Search of an Impeachable Offense" - but rather over his selling out to the Insurance and Health Care Industries in his own attempt at "health care reform" and all the other Pay-for-Play politics that were engaged so masterfully by him. And, finally, just as I was contemporaneously with Bush/Cheney in the fraudulent run-up to the Iraq War and at the time of the passing of the Patriot Act and at the unfolding of each and every other abomination that this criminal enterprise foisted upon the American people. I simply will not give up the fight on this until we collectively acknowledge that we are in fact "better than this." And that will only occur when we receive a full accounting of the crimes that happened and hold accountable those who were responsible for their commission.
And so I wish you luck in your search to "figure out a way to take responsibility for the part we played, major or minor." For me, I'll take a pass. I do not, after all, accept any personal responsibility for the crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush/Cheney Administration. I was the "partisan warrior, left wing radical ideologue" who did all I could to raise the alarm and insist "we cannot allow this to happen in our name." And I continue to accept my responsibility to do all I can to ensure it doesn't happen again.
But if you are truly serious about determining your own enabling responsibility for these crimes and those of the previous Administrations, you might perhaps begin by asking where you were when the "left wing radicals" were screaming the alarm about these abuses in the first place. And you might wish to reconsider your insistence on a pragmatism that says "They all do it, and so we must look forward and not back in order to accomplish politics as usual in Washington."
"Vigilance is the price of Liberty." So, yeah, if you really want to at last assume some responsibility for good government, join the radical left wing crowd and get angry and get loud, insisting at last that this will not stand. We are better than this. But only if we are vigilant in maintaining our principles and our standards. Otherwise, we merely settle for being centrist pragmatists who deserve the low standard of governance they are only too willing to accept.
August 26, 2009 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I tried posting this downthread. Give me an "F" for layout.
August 26, 2009 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fuck layout. Its late sleepin and the day after this post faded. so what the hell.
I want fire. Teddy was getting too old.
I want some righteous indignation.
Give up the goddamn truckin and write speeches for Feingold or Whitehouse or, better yet Al. ha
I want someone on the Senate Floor screamin and yellin about justice.
There will NEVER BE ANY JUSTICE DISCUSSED FROM THE REPUB SIDE. It is impossible.THe core will never allow it.
WE NEED WELLSTONE AND THE OLD KENNEDY.
The end
August 27, 2009 12:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed.
August 27, 2009 1:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have never once called for a derailing of Holder's investigations, wherever they might lead and whomever might be indicted. I have never once called for anyone to get away with anything and advocate shining high-powered spotlights into every crevice. I would love to see someone get called for this shit at some point or we will continue to get screwed in ever more creative ways by people we trusted to get it right.
You continue to paint a caricature of my opinions in order to make them conform to your ideological prejudices. You respond to things I didn't say with long, rambling lectures that are tangential at best and outright strawmen at worse. I don't disagree with anything you have written on these sorts of rants and have said so many times. I think it is is long past time that accountability was brought back to Washington by way of both the criminal justice system and the ballot box, neither of which have truly worked for decades.
The tone and tenor of such investigations will be reviewed ad naseum, though, so the process must be nonpartisan and objective as humanly possible. Just imagine the inverse and somehow a scoundrel of the highest order became the democratic president and is being investigated by his republican successor. It would be a delicate process to say the least and a parallel I find you unwilling to make.
I guess that is enough for now on this continuing merry-go-round of being forced to defend positions I have never taken and you have never once actually supplied a link to a quote that would back up your rather detailed thesis.
August 26, 2009 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hi ya Sleepin--
cheney, rummy, bolton, yoo, gonzo, feith....
THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.
What is irresponsible is the repub mantra...
HEY WE ARE NOT A BANANA REPUBLIC.
Bullshit.
And the dems who are hiding and hoping this all goes away, they need to WAKE UP.
It aint goin away!!!!
August 25, 2009 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the outside contracts -- mercenaries -- aren't exactly sympathetic characters or "victims," except as the latter victims off their own greed, moral bankruptcy, and murderous sadism.
August 24, 2009 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I blame corporations more than ex soldiers attempting to get some monies to pay bills long past due.
But we find ourselves in situations where we, individually, must make a decision.
Murder is murder. If a gang banger is high and mistakes a purse for a gun and shooooooooots. Guess where he ends up with a hundred dollar defense.
Did I ever tell you that I had three daughters and your avatar elates me every damn time I look at it. hahahahahah
August 24, 2009 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Day, Mr. Day, Mr. Day.
Outstanding.
August 24, 2009 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Flower.
August 24, 2009 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
DD, you get an AA for this one. Nicely done.
August 24, 2009 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah if my software worked it would have even been better. hahaha
Thanks Mr. Smith. My next will be done on different software although I am not sure what.
August 24, 2009 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's my cheater.
I type in Word Perfect (word would work just as well)
I downloaded Netscape 7.2
That's the last version of Netscape to include Composer--a HTML writer.
I paste what I've written into Composer.
I then click on the HTML tab at the bottom, which shows the code behind what I've typed.
I copy that.
Then I switch to "none" on Moveable type. and paste the text with html markup in.
I can proofread it and tweak it by reverting to the rich text editor. Seems to work well for me.
Here's one place to get it. http://www.brothersoft.com/netscape-67433.html
August 24, 2009 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
"So I told him...
that he'd better...
shut his mouth
and do his job like man...
And he answered "listen father.
I will never..kill another"
He thinks he's better than his brother that died.
What the HELL does he think he's doing
to his father...who brought him up right."
Take you place on
The great Mandela...as it rolls
through you brief moment of time.
Win or loose now...you must choose now
And if you loose, you're only loosing your life.
Tell the jailer..
Not to bother...
With his meal...of bread and water today.
He is fasting...
Till the killing's over.
He's a martyr...
He thinks he's a prophet..
But he's a coward...he's just playing a game.
He can't do it...
He can't change it...
And it's been going on for ten thousand years.
Take you place on
The great Mandela...as it rolls
through you brief moment of time.
Win or loose now...you must choose now
And if you loose, you're only loosing your life.
Tell the people...
They are safe now...
Hunger stopped him..
He lies still in his cell...
Death has gagged his accusations..
We are free now..
We can kill now...
We CAN HATE NOW...NOW WE CAN END THE WORLD...
We're not guilty...
He was crazy...and it's been going on for ten thousand years...
Take you place on
The great Mandela...as it rolls
through you brief moment of time.
Win or loose now...you must choose now
And if you loose, you've only waisted your life.
C
August 24, 2009 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, I shall speak with you later about this C.
Wow.
August 24, 2009 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Said it before, and here again now. If there is a place in the US that deserves sustained aerial bombardment until the rubble bouncing is the only movement, any Blackwater/Xe compound is it.
Well-set-out, DD.
August 24, 2009 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Grouch, this took ten hours and the script sucks.....
If you got my point, that is all I ask.
August 24, 2009 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, submit this to the Times. Outstanding, Dickon.
August 24, 2009 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh nice words Bwak. But I am now forced to reedit. I put the whole damn thing on Notepad. We shall see.
But Like I told Grouch, If you get what I was trying to say, you bwak, then I am satisfied.
August 24, 2009 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking about the use of German Hessians by the British Government The Declaration of Independence condemned this abhorrent practice.
President George was a lot like King George
Declaration of Independence
“He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.”
August 24, 2009 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
My reply went elsewhere.
The Hessians have been a favorite group of characters for me since the fourth grade.
Resistance, do a blog on them. It would be fun. Tie them into Blackwater and its ilk. Which surprised me. I did not realize that there are more disclosures to come.
Panetta is beside himself. He is thinking: Crimany, I am just the CIA, what a frickin mess. What are state secrets...what should be released?
He is in a pickle and regardless of what others say, I think he is a good man.
We had a lot of bad men in charge REsistance.
You know I looked back at an earlier blog and I responded to you and then it looks like I hit the wrong button on that too.
There was some other hint for you to make a post.
Thank you.
August 24, 2009 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you on Panetta. He's in one Mell of a Hess.
What the CIA did under Bush/Cheney went way outside legal and moral bounds. And now the Press is beginning to get on the hunt.
But Leon also has the responsibility of maintaining the CIA with its ability to do Intelligence operations intact, which means that the workforce cannot be left with the impression that if they follow the orders of their superiors they can find themselves hung out to dry for it later. And no one outside the CIA is going to protect those bastards who step over the line. Plus, you can't tell the truly bad black ones from the dark gray or the middle gray. They have to have a great deal of discretion to succeed, and if they don't dare use their discretion, then the nation is at much greater risk.
The other side of that is that anyone who has a great deal of discretion is going to go over the line a bit at times. We don't keep mass armies of spies on tap so they aren't easily replaceable, and the best guy to know how to avoid screwing up an op is usually someone who already has done so. It's part of the learning experience in a very high-stakes game.
I'd say that Panetta has to defend his troops, even for stuff that happened well before he came on board. Otherwise the CIA will become ineffective at a time when Intelligence effectiveness is one of the most important things America might have going for it.
It's politicians who have to take the fall for what the CIA did wrong, not the agents. And the responsible politicians are gone. And Holder better not let Bush and Cheney be taken to a war crimes trial before national health care is passed if it is to ever be passed.
I'm glad I'm not Panetta, standing there juggling the hot potato with no one to pass it to. I wonder why he wanted the job - or what Obama told him to get him to take it.
Erik Prince, now. He's fair game. He's got a lot of enemies at present, and his friends have a lot less power than they used to. All he has is his fortune to protect him. I hope it's not enough.
And dickday, you mentioned in a reply to me on another thread that something I wrote might make a good novel. I think I see one here, too. Shame I can't write compelling characters or extract the essential story from the chaff of the facts.
August 24, 2009 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well I think you can. But I tell you, you have underlined the problems for the individuals who have taken the reins of govenrment. They must make decisions based upon what they think is best for their agencies and the country.
August 24, 2009 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that Panetta is in an almost no-win situation, and that he's a good man.
He wants to clean up the mess -- and rally has no choice but to do that -- but he can't be seen taking out the trash, as there are those who -- rightly -- would dig through the trash for the truths there.
I don't buy the bullshit "morale" excuses, though: they took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and laws, not to bitch about their morale suffering because required to comply with their oath. If they have a problem with morale because required to fulfill that oath, then they belong not at the CIA but in prison.
August 24, 2009 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
But luckily for me
They had to stop and then reload,
And by the time they'd done that
I was heading down the road.
August 24, 2009 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
headed down the road. ha!!!
Thank you jzap for dropping by.
August 24, 2009 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rambling and rambling with 40,000 headmen on my trail : : :
August 25, 2009 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hi TT. I did not see you here. Good to hear from you. hahahahhaha.
Thank you for this. Even though it is late. ha!!!
August 26, 2009 12:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great post, DD.
(I must be having some trouble concentrating, today. Because I'm having a harder time with this particular blog trying to separate or discern what you've written from what you're quoting-and in terms of sourcing, which is song, which is article, which are your words.
It's all there and it's superb. But there's bold, there's italics, there's all caps, there's bold italics, there's long form links--there's got to be a better way to organize it, no? Just a thought. You've endeavored to properly source everything and that's exemplary, I just wonder if there's a simpler way to present your blogs, so that ADD types like me have an easier time of digesting it.)
August 24, 2009 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am having a god awful time with the fonts. It is getting worse and worse.
Since I just returned twenty minutes ago I reedited it twice.
NO RESPONSE
It looks in the edit box like its all fixed but the damn thing is the same.
I guess I have to give up on Word forever and it pisses me off.
I downloaded notepad. Maybe I will put the thing on notepad, cut and paste my b log after erasing it so that I do not lose all these comments.
I am embarrassed about this.
Jonnie wrote me and said the same thing.
Thanks TPC and please bear with me.
August 24, 2009 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Powerfully woven DD.
Xe fires deathsparks with well-heeled ploys.
:::::::::
(I discovered in "Word" that if you copy and paste and save to a New document when you've finished editing, it gets rid of the embedded codes and your post shows up the way you intend on TPM...hope that helps)
August 24, 2009 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahaha...I like that pun, stratofrog.
August 24, 2009 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Neo, Strato has a bit of James Joyce in her. Faulkner.
She loves words. Unlike me she is careful and takes her time to post.
But when she does..........
WOW
Now you, you do such a good job researching but your conclusions are not predestined. That is why I like to read you. When you report about Honduras...
We, the readers, are taken OUTSIDE OF OUR GODDAMN MESS and see our problems in a different light.
At least I do.
August 24, 2009 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Neo,
I got sidetracked with some hippies over at Wendy's post
and lost track of time :~)
August 24, 2009 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I shall try as soon as I figure out what you are saying. hahahahaha
Anything is better than this.
I am glad that you seem to have grasped my intent here anyway.
August 24, 2009 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
NO need to be embarrassed DD. Absolutely none. Your insights shine, as usual. There's got to be someone here who can help sharpen your presentation--an editor of sorts, an organizer, a layout master, and I'm projecting here
a little
because I might
benefit from one
too.
August 24, 2009 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think of the Hessians also Resistance. I mean since the fourth grade or whatever.
Should do a blog on it Resistance, so many weird and wonderful stories about these paid guns.
August 24, 2009 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
See gary, its just today. I send you the wrong response.
Thank you for the kind words.
I will attempt to do better. I could be shorter but I am attempting to weave something together...
Sometimes it works........
I am going to attempt this Notepad thingy as soon as I finish up these responses.
Amazing is it not? All these wonderful comments to a mess like this? ha
August 24, 2009 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, you are now only doing Notepad? That explains it--not using Notepad is the key to your problems. (I can't believe you don't have Notepad already on your computer, it is standard with even the lowest levels of Windows installation. Did you check under "Accessories"?)
All the blogging software has its own word processing, so to speak. By using Word, you are just adding conflicting codes and causing yourself the problems.
You can still write in Word if you want, but then paste it to Notepad to strip all of Word's codes out, and then format the post with the blogging software.
But then you will be doing the formatting twice, once with Word and once with the blogging software. The thing is. you have to ask yourself why you are doing that.
If you plan to submit the piece someday somewhere else, to a print publication, maybe they want it in Word, so ok it makes sense. If not, why are you not using the Movable Type instead? Bloggers mainly compose and format in Movable Type. I recall Josh Marshall said the main reason he was changing the TPM Cafe software when many of us were whining "why fix something that's not broken" is that Movable Type is "industry standard" and they couldn't even find anyone to work on the other software.
I guess what you are being confronted with is: am I a blogger or am I a free-lance writer? Because the former mainly use Movable Type to format, the latter Word.
Notepad is the only truly understandable language to all the systems you might confront if you want to publish in many different internet places.
I have used it since like day 2 in participating on blog forums, I learned that right away, because I quote a lot from other sites. You always paste your cut into Notepad before putting on another site, not doing that will cause you lots of grief.
August 24, 2009 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find that Notepad, the software application, is the source of more problems than it solves.
The formatting data in a Word document (.doc) or a "rich" text format document (.rtf) may indeed be a problem, whereas Notepad's plain text files (.txt) have no formatting. I would venture that Word can also save as or convert its documents to plain text, but I have not had the occasion to use it in quite a while.
Another option for Windows is OpenOffice, which definitely does have the option.
An alternative to adding formatting in the "fancy" editor here on TPM after the fact would be to use the Markdown syntax, which you can do when you are writing the text. The post entry, then, has an option to use the Markdown filter.
August 24, 2009 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay Karl, I was going to kill myself, now I will try markdown. ha
August 24, 2009 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
All right AA.
Thank you.
Notepad or whatever does nothing for me. I did spend one hour putting everything on Notepad, putting it on our blogging software and nothing.
It came out like spinach on pasta without the white sauce. Everything more screwed up than when I started the damn thing.
I take what I have, sans notepad, and attempt to edit......nothing happens.
I just took your comment and pasted it on Word.
I must come to grips with word after all.
damn
And you can see I was attempting to take Winwood and weave him into Blackwater with two different angles on Blackwater. On angle from the societal perspective. The other from the employee perspective. The latter of course takes us into Winwood.
Oh well it was fun to do believe me.
The procurement of American whores and the attempt to make a hell of a lot of money off of them cheating the government and then, of course, cheating the whores.
Thank you AA, I really appreciate it when you visit my posts. I really do.
August 24, 2009 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is absolutely one of the best set of lyrics ever written. Better then anything Dylan ever wrote, and I am a huge Dylan fan, ditto for Waters.
The lyrics in their entirety, much better then the excerpt
---------------------
If you see something that looks like a star
and it's shooting up out of the ground
and your head is spinning from a loud guitar.
And you just can't escape from the sound
don't worry too much, it'll happen to you
We were children once, playing with toys.
And the thing that you're hearing is only the sound
of the low spark of high-heeled boys.
The percentage you're paying is too high priced
while you're living beyond all your means.
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
from the profit he's made on your dreams.
But today you just swear that the man was shot dead
by a gun that didn't make any noise.
But it wasn't the bullet that laid him to rest
was the low spark of high-heeled boys.
If you had just a minute to breathe
and they granted you one final wish
would you ask for something, like another chance.
Or something similar as this
don't worry too much, it'll happen to you
as sure as your sorrows are joys.
And the thing that disturbs you is only the sound
of the low spark of high-heeled boys.
The percentage you're paying is too high priced
while you're living beyond all your means
and the man in the suit has just bought a new car
from the profit he's made on your dreams
But today you just swear that the man was shot dead
by a gun that didn't make any noise
But it wasn't the bullet that laid him to rest
was the low spark of high-heeled boys....high-heeled boys.
If I gave you everything that I own
and asked for nothing in return
Would you do the same for me, as I would for you?
Or take me for a ride
and strip me of everything, including my pride
But spirit is something that no one destroys
And the sound that I'm hearing is only the sound
of the low spark of high-heeled boys.
August 24, 2009 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for this Scott I was running long anyway, had the software problems.
Thank you so much for this.
I kept playing it as I wrote this.
What Winfield and his compadre did was to take the mundane, and create an epic....
And there is so much rooooooom for interpretation.
AGain, thank you.,
August 24, 2009 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
DD, for the Blackwater sequel, you should try this Traffic number:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73VXUZMOJdQ
Man, Traffic still rules.
And did anyone link to "Sparks"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVlbgqmxXNY
I love how this performance eases into the funk.
August 24, 2009 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too Neo. There is a forlornness. To say that, to say 'haunting' is to say nothing but cliches.
The experience though, that is no cliche. Even though this 11 minute jam ends abruptly, I play it over other versions, including the one I used to jog with.
Thank you Neo for taking the time
And thank you for the links.
August 24, 2009 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
If John Milton had Youtube he never would have written "Paradise Lost."
August 24, 2009 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
If John Milton had Youtube he never would have written "Paradise Lost."
Okie dokie. Neo I consulted in the chatroom and I hereby render unto you the Knightly Line of the Day Award for this here TPMCafe site, given to all of you from all of me.
See, I shall ponder this all week. DAMN YOU.HAHHAHAHA
August 24, 2009 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a great read. Thanks for that. Especially powerful as LSofHHB is one of my favorite all-time jams.
August 24, 2009 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
All righty then!!!
You take care Tao. People around here are getting to appreciate your posts and your comments.
August 24, 2009 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, DD! Don't know how you do it, man!
Your allegiant servitor,
Overreach THIS!
August 24, 2009 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT, sometimes things do not go that well for me.
WELLCOME to the human race.
But I tell ya, with friends like you, all the bad goes away. No kidding. ha
August 24, 2009 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Same here, bro.
Truly.
Fabulous post. Just fabulous. !!!
August 25, 2009 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Erik Prince is another radical right-wing Catholic fundamentalist, much like Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindel. Blackwater got preferential treatment for government contracts because of Bush's efforts to bring evangelicals into government. Outsourcing is a way to avoid all the civil service rules on how to treat your workers.
None of those individuals believe in democracy. All of them believe in a sharply stratified society, with themselves on the top and dominant rungs. Women and workers are clearly on a lower, subordinate rung and are less capable than they consider themselves to be.
Prince's treatment of his "troops" shows a complete disdain for them. It's based on the same mindset that makes them all anti-union, anti-democratic and anti-government.
It really disturbs me that five of the life-time Supreme Court Justices are conservative Catholics. But that only one of the many reasons why none of the people I am discussing should have the power they have been given.
August 24, 2009 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Outsourcing is a way to avoid all the civil service rules on how to treat your workers
I will start with that truth Richard. Yes. The bureaucracy is there to regulate and to bring some order to chaos. Reagan would abolish it. Chaos is good says ronnie. my friends can make a lot of money off of chaos.
Maybe it would be better if we put the term to ten years for the SC
August 24, 2009 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Erik Prince is another radical right-wing Catholic fundamentalist, much like Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindel. Blackwater got preferential treatment for government contracts because of Bush's efforts to bring evangelicals into government. Outsourcing is a way to avoid all the civil service rules on how to treat your workers.
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No it isn't. It's a way to avoid ALL rule of law.
August 24, 2009 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now I have read it three times. And after the ego high as left...
Richard, I remember speaking with Gregor a few months ago. I have discussed this basic problem with regard to Reagonomics to so many people in the past.
AND THEY HAVE NO GODDAMNABLE IDEA WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
We have friends here, Richard. Never forget this.
I am still a newbie. November 25th of last year I received my first recommendation, if I recall correctly.
THE END
I told Gregor how much I appreciated him one nite four or five months later, because I would spout my nonsense and the conservatives who always seemed to attempt to guide my opnions.
I honestly thought I was nuts, and I am a resident of one of the most liberal states in America.
Richard with one sentence, you allay my suspicions of insanity. No kidding. ha!!!
This was one of my worst 'fonted' blogs, but people just ignore it. At least when they can at least read it. hahahahahahahahaha
It is so amazing to me that I have found a group of people that not only think I am sane, but who agree with me.
Oh well, this is one full day after my 'time' ran out on the blog. But it is the hundredth comment.
I think about my friend TheraP....She would have gotten two hundred comments on a similar blog.
I shall end with what you have begun:
Outsourcing is a way to avoid all the civil service rules on how to treat your workers.
August 26, 2009 2:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
This has seemed to veer into a poetic vein (no pun--you'll see what I mean a bit later). I got to musing on the name Blackwater--rather stream of consciousness stuff, and it took me to thinking about the for humours--don't ask me why, I dunno.
Blood, red
Phlegm, green,
and Bile, yellow and black. So Blackwater equals black bile?
Black bile, excess of which creates melancholy. That seems appropriate. So a bit of googling and I came up with this lyric.
http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/it_dies_today_lyrics_3423/sirens_lyrics_32966/black_bile_white_lies_lyrics_356736.html
And then I remember the CEO of Blackwater is Prince (The Prince of Blackness?)
So the lyric seems appropriate for him and his old boss, GWB, alike.
August 24, 2009 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
wow. I thought of the KINGS OF IRELAND. My poor alcholic old man. There were kings of Ireland with 4 square miles of territory and the killing of a stag was a big deal.
But finding and killing the stag took guts, and aim, and knowledge and a feeling for the stag. Nowmds, just the bow
There was once honor in all of this.
But you know that Professor.
The king of nothing.
August 24, 2009 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't wait for the sequel to this column: "Shoot Out At The Fantasy Factory" !
August 25, 2009 4:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Shoot out at the fantasy factory.
hahahahahaha
From metaphor to fantasy maybe....
Hope your getting along today Jan. We have another pretty summer day here in the northland.
August 25, 2009 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Inasmuch as I found it amusing (I swear I can't presently contact the outlines of my "thinking") to take my Bankruptcy final on acid, I have always wondered what *Steve Riesenfeld made of my exam.
Suffice it to say that today I embrace his experience--DD, welcome to the world of Gonzo Jurisprudence.
I stand in awe when I contemplate that in all likelihood you did this without benefit of pharmacological intervention.
*To his creditk, he gave me the American Jurisprudence Book Award for first in the class...
August 25, 2009 4:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
hahahah. Hi Jolly. I look back and I liked two things in the law. Bankruptcy and probate. REal Estate was ok. Just forms.
No drugs. I had some whiskey after I wrote this. No drugs.
The song. The song has been in my head for three days.
Sometimes I think this whole world is just one big prison yard.
Some of us are prisoners.
The other of us are guards.
Maybe in the real world some of us are whores and the other of us are pimps.
Good to see you Jolly!!!
August 25, 2009 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
pimps
"pimp" is just haterese for impressario. Sol Hurok, a pimp. Diaghelev, Pimpasaurus.
August 25, 2009 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I missed this reply Jolly.
There is no answer to the query. You know that already. ha!!!
There are those out there Jolly and their entire aim in life is to somehow put as many people into slavery as possible.
I watched this drama on tv and it was like Wallmart was investigating their lowest common denominator.
The main character was upset because she did not get to the next paygrade. Pay grade? from 7 to 9 dollars an hour?
I am lost, and I am aching and I cannot find my way home.
This is nonsense. This is a contrived universe. Somehow people have bought this.
And most of them are repubs.
its nuts.
How can you sell your soul so cheaply.
Jolly, it scares the shit out of me and even after the 06 and the 08 elections, it scares the shit out of me.
I mean no health insurance, no pension, nothing
And yet the oligarchy has this segment of the population scared to the bone.
how could people be so goddamnably stupid?
THE END
August 26, 2009 1:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Never thought I'd see the day where my country hires contract killers and declared open season on persons based upon their religion.
But then I never imagined a president of this country would repeatedly perjure himself in his representation of something to the citizens that beyond any doubt has proven to be a treasonous act.
How can these very extreme things occur? How can congress ignore the occurrence? How could we have been duped into bringing to the world yet another holy war? But mostly, how can this country ignore this reality? Or is this what we really are?
It is scary to acknowledge these things have happened and that congress is doing what they are as a general thematic idea and to realize the persons behind it all had to have been taught this behavior. I must have been a bad student. I don't remember these lessons.
August 25, 2009 6:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know TPC, I am frustrated. But the way I see it these civil suits; that is investigations by non governmental law firms and victims who WILL NOT LET THIS REST.
I like this Senator Whitehouse...I have seen him jump up and down about all this.
This will not go away. The DOJ can no longer turn the blind eye.
It will be a fun story to follow.
August 25, 2009 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
"turning a blind eye is wrong."
Does justice have another eye we don't know about??
August 25, 2009 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
It'll be anything but fun.
August 25, 2009 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is tragic that all this stuff is going on and a majority of persons are unaware of it.
I was with a customer until almost 9 pm last night who is the same age as me who also served during Vietnam but watches FOX news and is simply unable to connect the dots for all of this. We conversed all day long and not in any way contentious. By the end of the day he was clearly thinking about all we had spoken of and indicated he was struck by all the stuff he didn't comprehend and conveyed as much to me. This was a real eye opener. These people can be reached, if they want, but it takes a special circumstance and an opportunity for that to happen.
August 25, 2009 7:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I caught this late also. TPC, I thought the Vietnam war taught us something. What an idiot.
I have watched Buchanan and others argue, well it was the goddamnable hippies that lost us the war. We should have sent in ten million soldiers all at once and then everything would have been okay.
And of course, pat never went to war.
the end
August 26, 2009 2:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Buchanan is always good for an over the top comment or two. I have to wonder why his extremism is tolerated as a regular on any network. The networks really need to step up and stop giving air time to extreme views from either side. Americans are all too easily misled and having extreme views presented as reasonable is definitely misleading.
August 26, 2009 4:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
One of your best!
(Please use the "Link" function that comes with the TPM composer. Jut highlight the text you want to be the link and click on the icon...then "control V" the link...s
August 25, 2009 7:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Steve. I have to go back to school on this stuff. AGAIN.
August 25, 2009 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink