Geez Flower, you do not think that Cicero is a bit over the top? hahahaha
There comes a time when deceit and defiance must be seen for what they are. At that point, a gathering danger must be directly confronted. At that point, we must show that beyond our resolutions is actual resolve
I wish to take this out of context.
I wish to be part of the gathering danger.
I wish for my resolve to be challenged.
See Flower...We need a new voice that understands ORATION at its best!!!!
I want some outrage from our leaders.
Hear, Hear, my good man! And Happy Birthday!
Thank you Scotty Mac. We have others at this site
claiming lineage from Robert the Bruce. Make sure you check in with Quinn from time to time. ha
I checked him out Dick. He's a good and right and proper upstanding gentleman. And a scholar.
All of which is irrelevant to my judgment. But that bird's wearing a Cardinals shirt. Good enough for me. Go Redbirds! ;-)
Bravo to the Birthday Boy - another spellbinding post........you continue to amaze me.
Oh thank you so much Maggie. I made LisB promise to never kick you out of the chatroom again. hahahaha
I am sorry. But I could not stop laughing last nite.
And I yelled at her to get you on the phone immediately.
You are such a good sport!!!
Awww, she handled it with her usual sense of humor and style, Dickon. In fact, I don't know who was laughing harder over the phone -- her or me!
I like playing sheriff and wearing that little star -- I really do!! LOL....
It was fun!!!hahhaah
I am still laughing!!
Well come chat tonight and celebrate your birthday with us and we'll be sure to keep you laughing even more!
Except for the occasional heart attack, I never felt better.
Can you say 'disingenuous'?
The guy will not die Miguel. I mean, He is the Man of Steel.
dickyc will never ever ever admit anything. But maybe there IS something supernatural about him!!!
Unnatural, anyway...
Nothing natural about his evil voice, that is for sure.
If this is what MT Cicero has to say to Dick Cheney, I hate to think what he's got lined up to whack those who believed him with. Probably something like this from On the Laws:
For of all the questions on which our philosophers argue, there is none which it is more important thoroughly to understand than this, that man is born for justice, and that law and equity are not a mere establishment of opinion, but an institution of nature.
In fact, reason, which alone gives us so many advantages over beasts, by means of which we conjecture, argue, refute, discourse, and accomplish and conclude our designs, is assuredly common to all men; for the faculty of acquiring knowledge is similar in all human minds, though the knowledge itself may be endlessly diversified. By the same senses we all perceive the same objects, and that which strikes the sensibilities of the few, cannot be indifferent to those of the many.
For as we cannot call the recipes of ignorant empirics, who give poisons instead of medicines, the prescriptions of a physician, we cannot call that the true law of the people, whatever be its name, if it enjoins what is injurious, let the people receive it as they will. For law is the just distinction between right and wrong, conformable to nature, the original and principal regulator of all things, by which the laws of men should be measured, whether they punish the guilty or protect the innocent.
So,if we know the universal distinction between right and wrong is subject to discovery by use of reason, and we know that this principle should punish the guilty or protect the innocent, why is Cheney not being held to account by us all?
Cicero, Professor Amike, as you well know loved language. He could not shut up.
I just thought about him before bed last night, then woke up thinking about Cataline, the conspirator and then thought of Cheney.
Talk about conspirators.
And the language. I just love your quotes. Ha!!
I love having a professor reading my drivel and then taking some time to really talk back.
Thank you for this!!!
The pleasure is all mine. It's great to have a safe place for bookishness.
Cicero sure does love language. Can I give you one more quote. I think it is worth a gaze because for Mr. C. language was more than just words. And the whole arsenal of language in the broadest sense--well, one can just see Cicero gushing over it:
With respect to man this same bountiful nature hath not merely allotted him a subtle and active spirit, but moreover favoured him with physical senses, like so many guardians and messengers. Thus has she improved our understanding in relation to many obscure
principles, and laid the foundation of practical knowledge; and in all respects moulded our
corporeal faculties to the service of our intellectual genius. For while she has debased the
forms of other animals, who live to eat rather than eat to live, she has bestowed on man an
erect stature, and an open countenance, and thus prompted him to the contemplation of heaven, the ancient home of his kindred immortals. So exquisitely, too, hath she fashioned the features of the human face, as to make them symbolic of the most recondite thoughts and sentiments. As for our two eloquent eyes (oculi nimis arguti), do they not speak forth every impulse and passion of our souls? And that which we call expression, in which we infinitely excel all the inferior animals, how marvelously it delineates all our speculations and feelings! Of this the Greeks well knew the meaning, though they had no word for it.
I will not enlarge on the wonderful faculties and qualities of the rest of the body, the modulation of the voice, and the power of oratory, which is perhaps the greatest instrument of our influence over human society.
This is precious, no kidding Professor but I like this line:
"For while she has debased the forms of other animals, who live to eat rather than eat to live, she has bestowed on man an erect stature, and an open countenance, and thus prompted him to the contemplation of heaven, the ancient home of his kindred immortals"
Great one, Dick! Cicero's one of my favourite philosophers. Wrote all those great books within the span of a year and a half, the bastard. Unbelievable...
But the crucial question on Cicero is did he have a dog? If not, he was only half the philosopher he could have been.
THE END.
ah seashell, the real question is did Cicero have a BLOG?
His other philosopher half is DD.
I meant to say philosofur
regarding your canine proposition.
Frogs believe in the universal declarations
of seashell justice and peaceful dogdays.
The folks in this Cafe are way too bright! ;)
Strato, I've been meaning to send you a p-mail to tell you that you are one fine frog.
And of course we support social justice for those that don't have tails to wag, and their excellent frogophers who loudly share their philosophies to all within a 10 mile range!
I hereby award you dd's Daily award thingy from all of me to you. HA!
Seash, sheesh! Thanks for the thingy!
I know you’re not
calling me an activist gopher
at this distance
but in the nonce
I remember once
frogs had tales (~wags phantom thingy~)
hahahahah
Good comeback Strato. Cicero could not keep his mouth shut. Caesar got a kick out of him when he was panning him.
Caesar was above such things but enjoyed artistry.
Cicero would certainly have become an addict of this medium, that is for sure.
He came from a landed family even though he called himself Novus Homo, the New Man. His dad had been a merchant of some kind with no noble blood, BUT LOTS OF MONEY.
At any rate Cicero would have had dogs and horses and certainly cats on his estate to take care of the rats.
THE END
yeah Obey, AND HE DID IT IN LATIN. Of course it was his native language. hahhaha
I did not know he had one 18 month stretch. Thanks for that. I just remember attempting to translate his rants against Cataline. hhhaha
This was a great speech!!! No kidding. I was struck with his references to the Roman Senate and 'The Constitution' and then I was off and running.
Maybe he just wrote in secret. Saved it all up. And then "seemed" to do it in a year and a half!
Yeah, IN LATIN, the bastard... HAHAHA! Seriously, he decided he'd write some philosophy after the death of his daughter in 45, and finished the last big one, De Fato, some time in 44. It's setting can be dated to somewhere between the 17-23 of May of that year (when he had Hirtius visiting), so I'm figuring he had a rough draft by the 28th. Fate, my man!
;0)
As for Seashell's question, I've got a major new theory that he stole it all from his dog and mentor Tully the Terrier. Currently awaiting publication at Classical Canine Quarterly...
Obey, you come up with some of the nicest tidbits besides grand statements of anyone I know. Thank you!!
Well, in that case I will promptly subzcribe to teh Quarterly so we can check out this doggie dude's bone fidos, if you know wot I mean!
Well DD, that is f_ing eerie, and absolutely brilliant.
A number of things came to mind reading your post such as: "History repeats itself" and "There is nothing new in the mind of man (sic)."
Is there some mobius strip we are on where we wander seamlessly across the ages, tromping repeatedly on the same path, largely unknowing that we have been there before? I have often felt this in a different sense. For example, the U.S. intervention strategy of backing radical insurgents for one reason or another who then turn into big future problems - commonly referred to in intelligence circles as "blowback." However, if one repeats the same action to the same end over and over, it hardly counts as a "mistake." But I digress.
The other thought that came to mind was "What a remarkable transliteration." I know that technically it is not, but with relatively minor changes you stayed true to Cicero yet it applied perfectly to Cheney. Kind of a character transliteration.
Regardless, you have brought the ancient condemnation to the current moment with flawless brilliance. This also prompted me to go look up Cicero, and I found this interesting tidbit which others may find instructive and diverting (Hey seashell, look at the last line):
Cicero's cognomen, personal surname, comes from the Latin for chickpea, cicer. Plutarch explains that the name was originally given to one of Cicero's ancestors who had a cleft in the tip of his nose resembling a chickpea. However it is more likely that Cicero's ancestors prospered through the cultivation and sale of chickpeas. [10] Romans often chose down-to-earth personal surnames: the famous family names of Fabius, Lentulus, and Piso come from the Latin names of beans, lentils, and peas. Plutarch writes that Cicero was urged to change this deprecatory name when he entered politics, but refused, saying that he would make Cicero more glorious than Scaurus ("Swollen-ankled") and Catulus ("Puppy").[11]
This is delightful Rowan. Do not fail to read Professor Amike's Cicero segment on a more general note.
"The other thought that came to mind was "What a remarkable transliteration." I know that technically it is not, but with relatively minor changes you stayed true to Cicero yet it applied perfectly to Cheney. Kind of a character transliteration."
With words like: "Constitution", "Senate", Media..
What a rush. I certainly trimmed it, which took time. And, of course, found that great site on Cheney quotes. And I got rid of the executions. That is, Cicero was more interested in executing Cataline, right away!!!hahahaha
But he was giving Cataline the option of exile.
Your discussion of the etymology of family names is terrific. Just precious. And that my little blog spurred you on to reread some Cicero, is great. Plutarch is fun.
Indeed, the call to justice is timeless, but all too often falls on ears intentionally deaf.
What?
Can't resist this, Rowen. But if they cultivated chickpeas, maybe he ate a lot of them. And does that mean he was full of "hot air"?
I hear that we all are (full of hot air) beans or not. I heard that each human emits a quart of methane via "flatulence" each day. Four of us make a gallon and with modified engines and carpooling, we could take ourselves to work and back on our very own internal gas engines. ;)
Chick what? hot what?
WHAT?!!
Chickpeas, also known as garbanzo beans, ...
The chickpea (Cicer arietinum) (also garbanzo bean, Indian pea, ceci bean, bengal gram, Kabuli chana, kadale kaalu, sanaga pappu, shimbra, Kadala) is an edible legume of the family Fabaceae, subfamily Faboideae. Chickpeas are high in protein and one of the earliest cultivated vegetables. 7,500-year-old remains have been found in the Middle East.[
Also, given the name, I assume as a favorite of our dear friends the chickens,
And yes, in a typically human bit of misdirection, THEY pointed at our friends the bovines, as a primary source of methane, while it is humans who actually are a major contributor of unseemly smell (and global warming gases).
Right you are to be outraged at the lie perpetrated on the venerable farm companions. Humans! What is any sane beast (or fowl) to do?
MWMWMWMW (flipper splash in disgust)
"shimbra, Kadala"
-well, shim-bra-ha-ha
kadala-la-la-la
bean me up Cicero...
I rolled on the floor laughing till my tail started wearing out, strato.
Where do you find this stuff? "shimbra, Kadala" is freaking Hindi for chickpeas.
How did chickpeas get into dd's Cicero blog? There is madness in the cafe.
What fun. :-)
and freakin "chickpeas"
is English for Cicero!
The cognoman was an omen.
(They were Rowan's beans.
Bwak whatted them,
but Thera plotted them)
:-)
ROTFLOL! :)
ack!
I feel an attack of the vapors coming on...
=D
Ack.
I missed the last part yesterday, Rowan. I was RIGHT about Mr. Hot Air Cicero only being half a philosopher.
Thank you for the blinding light!!!!
Always my honor to eluminate!
You're taking us back to school, dd! And on your birthday at that! Philosophy! Professors! Puns!
We have it all. You attract such a diverse following, dd! From four-footed friends to feathered friends to professorial friends and even shrinks! :)
Kudos on another great blog. On your birthday, no less!
These people are great, are they not TheraP.
OH WHAT FUN!!!!
If resolve were a song
It would hummus.
;-> hummmmussss
That is just too good! :)
Hand meet glove. Glove- hand.
Great connection, DD. Where is our Cicero?
Don, I do not know. I have asked myself that question recently. fuck the soundbites.
Give us an orator who can at least keep flogging the bastards for an hour or two with no commercial breaks. ha
"Give us an orator who can at least keep flogging the bastards for an hour or two with no commercial breaks. ha"
Hah! Doesn't even have to be the greatest orator, just someone who's good with a whip!
And a good long set of quotes from the conspirators. HA!!!
You did it again, dd.
Please don't ever stop.
May 28, 2009 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Geez Flower, you do not think that Cicero is a bit over the top? hahahaha
May 28, 2009 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish to take this out of context.
I wish to be part of the gathering danger.
I wish for my resolve to be challenged.
May 28, 2009 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
See Flower...We need a new voice that understands ORATION at its best!!!!
I want some outrage from our leaders.
May 28, 2009 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear, Hear, my good man! And Happy Birthday!
May 28, 2009 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Scotty Mac. We have others at this site
claiming lineage from Robert the Bruce. Make sure you check in with Quinn from time to time. ha
May 28, 2009 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I checked him out Dick. He's a good and right and proper upstanding gentleman. And a scholar.
All of which is irrelevant to my judgment. But that bird's wearing a Cardinals shirt. Good enough for me. Go Redbirds! ;-)
May 29, 2009 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bravo to the Birthday Boy - another spellbinding post........you continue to amaze me.
May 28, 2009 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh thank you so much Maggie. I made LisB promise to never kick you out of the chatroom again. hahahaha
I am sorry. But I could not stop laughing last nite.
And I yelled at her to get you on the phone immediately.
You are such a good sport!!!
May 28, 2009 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awww, she handled it with her usual sense of humor and style, Dickon. In fact, I don't know who was laughing harder over the phone -- her or me!
I like playing sheriff and wearing that little star -- I really do!! LOL....
May 28, 2009 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was fun!!!hahhaah
I am still laughing!!
May 28, 2009 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well come chat tonight and celebrate your birthday with us and we'll be sure to keep you laughing even more!
May 28, 2009 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
May 28, 2009 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
The guy will not die Miguel. I mean, He is the Man of Steel.
dickyc will never ever ever admit anything. But maybe there IS something supernatural about him!!!
May 28, 2009 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unnatural, anyway...
May 28, 2009 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nothing natural about his evil voice, that is for sure.
May 28, 2009 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
If this is what MT Cicero has to say to Dick Cheney, I hate to think what he's got lined up to whack those who believed him with. Probably something like this from On the Laws:
So,if we know the universal distinction between right and wrong is subject to discovery by use of reason, and we know that this principle should punish the guilty or protect the innocent, why is Cheney not being held to account by us all?
May 28, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cicero, Professor Amike, as you well know loved language. He could not shut up.
I just thought about him before bed last night, then woke up thinking about Cataline, the conspirator and then thought of Cheney.
Talk about conspirators.
And the language. I just love your quotes. Ha!!
I love having a professor reading my drivel and then taking some time to really talk back.
Thank you for this!!!
May 28, 2009 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
The pleasure is all mine. It's great to have a safe place for bookishness.
Cicero sure does love language. Can I give you one more quote. I think it is worth a gaze because for Mr. C. language was more than just words. And the whole arsenal of language in the broadest sense--well, one can just see Cicero gushing over it:
I had better quit before I get accused of indirect speciesism. If you can stand more of him in Victorian translation, you can bop over to http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1879
May 28, 2009 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is precious, no kidding Professor but I like this line:
"For while she has debased the forms of other animals, who live to eat rather than eat to live, she has bestowed on man an erect stature, and an open countenance, and thus prompted him to the contemplation of heaven, the ancient home of his kindred immortals"
May 28, 2009 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great one, Dick! Cicero's one of my favourite philosophers. Wrote all those great books within the span of a year and a half, the bastard. Unbelievable...
May 28, 2009 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
But the crucial question on Cicero is did he have a dog? If not, he was only half the philosopher he could have been.
THE END.
May 28, 2009 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
ah seashell, the real question is
did Cicero have a BLOG?
His other philosopher half is DD.
May 28, 2009 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I meant to say philosofur
regarding your canine proposition.
Frogs believe in the universal declarations
of seashell justice and peaceful dogdays.
May 28, 2009 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
The folks in this Cafe are way too bright! ;)
May 28, 2009 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Strato, I've been meaning to send you a p-mail to tell you that you are one fine frog.
And of course we support social justice for those that don't have tails to wag, and their excellent frogophers who loudly share their philosophies to all within a 10 mile range!
I hereby award you dd's Daily award thingy from all of me to you. HA!
May 28, 2009 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seash, sheesh! Thanks for the thingy!
I know you’re not
calling me an activist gopher
at this distance
but in the nonce
I remember once
frogs had tales (~wags phantom thingy~)
May 28, 2009 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahahahah
May 28, 2009 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good comeback Strato. Cicero could not keep his mouth shut. Caesar got a kick out of him when he was panning him.
Caesar was above such things but enjoyed artistry.
Cicero would certainly have become an addict of this medium, that is for sure.
May 28, 2009 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
He came from a landed family even though he called himself Novus Homo, the New Man. His dad had been a merchant of some kind with no noble blood, BUT LOTS OF MONEY.
At any rate Cicero would have had dogs and horses and certainly cats on his estate to take care of the rats.
THE END
May 28, 2009 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah Obey, AND HE DID IT IN LATIN. Of course it was his native language. hahhaha
I did not know he had one 18 month stretch. Thanks for that. I just remember attempting to translate his rants against Cataline. hhhaha
This was a great speech!!! No kidding. I was struck with his references to the Roman Senate and 'The Constitution' and then I was off and running.
May 28, 2009 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe he just wrote in secret. Saved it all up. And then "seemed" to do it in a year and a half!
May 28, 2009 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, IN LATIN, the bastard... HAHAHA! Seriously, he decided he'd write some philosophy after the death of his daughter in 45, and finished the last big one, De Fato, some time in 44. It's setting can be dated to somewhere between the 17-23 of May of that year (when he had Hirtius visiting), so I'm figuring he had a rough draft by the 28th. Fate, my man!
;0)
As for Seashell's question, I've got a major new theory that he stole it all from his dog and mentor Tully the Terrier. Currently awaiting publication at Classical Canine Quarterly...
May 28, 2009 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obey, you come up with some of the nicest tidbits besides grand statements of anyone I know. Thank you!!
May 28, 2009 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, in that case I will promptly subzcribe to teh Quarterly so we can check out this doggie dude's bone fidos, if you know wot I mean!
May 28, 2009 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well DD, that is f_ing eerie, and absolutely brilliant.
A number of things came to mind reading your post such as: "History repeats itself" and "There is nothing new in the mind of man (sic)."
Is there some mobius strip we are on where we wander seamlessly across the ages, tromping repeatedly on the same path, largely unknowing that we have been there before? I have often felt this in a different sense. For example, the U.S. intervention strategy of backing radical insurgents for one reason or another who then turn into big future problems - commonly referred to in intelligence circles as "blowback." However, if one repeats the same action to the same end over and over, it hardly counts as a "mistake." But I digress.
The other thought that came to mind was "What a remarkable transliteration." I know that technically it is not, but with relatively minor changes you stayed true to Cicero yet it applied perfectly to Cheney. Kind of a character transliteration.
Regardless, you have brought the ancient condemnation to the current moment with flawless brilliance. This also prompted me to go look up Cicero, and I found this interesting tidbit which others may find instructive and diverting (Hey seashell, look at the last line):
May 28, 2009 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is delightful Rowan. Do not fail to read Professor Amike's Cicero segment on a more general note.
"The other thought that came to mind was "What a remarkable transliteration." I know that technically it is not, but with relatively minor changes you stayed true to Cicero yet it applied perfectly to Cheney. Kind of a character transliteration."
With words like: "Constitution", "Senate", Media..
What a rush. I certainly trimmed it, which took time. And, of course, found that great site on Cheney quotes. And I got rid of the executions. That is, Cicero was more interested in executing Cataline, right away!!!hahahaha
But he was giving Cataline the option of exile.
Your discussion of the etymology of family names is terrific. Just precious. And that my little blog spurred you on to reread some Cicero, is great. Plutarch is fun.
May 28, 2009 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed, the call to justice is timeless, but all too often falls on ears intentionally deaf.
May 28, 2009 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
What?
May 28, 2009 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't resist this, Rowen. But if they cultivated chickpeas, maybe he ate a lot of them. And does that mean he was full of "hot air"?
May 28, 2009 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hear that we all are (full of hot air) beans or not. I heard that each human emits a quart of methane via "flatulence" each day. Four of us make a gallon and with modified engines and carpooling, we could take ourselves to work and back on our very own internal gas engines. ;)
May 28, 2009 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chick what? hot what?
WHAT?!!
May 28, 2009 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chickpeas, also known as garbanzo beans, ...
Also, given the name, I assume as a favorite of our dear friends the chickens,
And yes, in a typically human bit of misdirection, THEY pointed at our friends the bovines, as a primary source of methane, while it is humans who actually are a major contributor of unseemly smell (and global warming gases).
Right you are to be outraged at the lie perpetrated on the venerable farm companions. Humans! What is any sane beast (or fowl) to do?
May 28, 2009 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
MWMWMWMW (flipper splash in disgust)
May 28, 2009 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
"shimbra, Kadala"
-well, shim-bra-ha-ha
kadala-la-la-la
bean me up Cicero...
May 28, 2009 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I rolled on the floor laughing till my tail started wearing out, strato.
Where do you find this stuff? "shimbra, Kadala" is freaking Hindi for chickpeas.
How did chickpeas get into dd's Cicero blog? There is madness in the cafe.
What fun. :-)
May 29, 2009 2:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
and freakin "chickpeas"
is English for Cicero!
The cognoman was an omen.
(They were Rowan's beans.
Bwak whatted them,
but Thera plotted them)
:-)
May 29, 2009 4:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
ROTFLOL! :)
May 29, 2009 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
ack!
I feel an attack of the vapors coming on...
=D
May 28, 2009 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ack.
I missed the last part yesterday, Rowan. I was RIGHT about Mr. Hot Air Cicero only being half a philosopher.
Thank you for the blinding light!!!!
May 29, 2009 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Always my honor to eluminate!
May 29, 2009 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're taking us back to school, dd! And on your birthday at that! Philosophy! Professors! Puns!
We have it all. You attract such a diverse following, dd! From four-footed friends to feathered friends to professorial friends and even shrinks! :)
Kudos on another great blog. On your birthday, no less!
May 28, 2009 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
These people are great, are they not TheraP.
OH WHAT FUN!!!!
May 28, 2009 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
If resolve were a song
It would hummus.
May 28, 2009 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
;-> hummmmussss
May 29, 2009 12:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
That is just too good! :)
May 29, 2009 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hand meet glove. Glove- hand.
Great connection, DD. Where is our Cicero?
May 28, 2009 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don, I do not know. I have asked myself that question recently. fuck the soundbites.
Give us an orator who can at least keep flogging the bastards for an hour or two with no commercial breaks. ha
May 28, 2009 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Give us an orator who can at least keep flogging the bastards for an hour or two with no commercial breaks. ha"
Hah! Doesn't even have to be the greatest orator, just someone who's good with a whip!
May 28, 2009 11:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
And a good long set of quotes from the conspirators. HA!!!
May 29, 2009 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink