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ALERT THE MEDIA; rush limbaugh has told the truth!!!!
Wall Street's well isn't completely dry: The New York Times reports that, last year, the top 25 hedge fund managers made $11.6 billion. Leading the way was James Simons of Renaissance Technologies, who made $2.5 billion. John Paulson of Paulson & Company was next, with a rake of $2 billion. John D. Arnold, who is in his early 30s, made $1.5 billion, while George Soros made $1.1 billion. Wall Street may want to hold the champagne, however: "In a year when losses were recorded at two of every three hedge funds, pay for many of these managers was down by several million, and the overall pool of earnings was about half the $22.5 billion the top 25 earned in 2007." (The Daily Beast Read it at The New York Times)
LIMBAUGH: After they have made it doubly tough for anybody to run a profitable business, then they can go in and seize it, when you can't make a profit, when your business isn't doing -- this is all part of a plan. This is not a rescue. This is a plan. They are focused on the destruction of the private sector. They -- this is an all-out assault on capitalism.
LIMBAUGH: The poor and the middle class, this is a bunch of people that believe a bunch of things. One of the things they believe is that the nation's achievers and so-called wealthy have acquired their wealth by stealing it or not allowing others to have it, and this has created the middle class and the poor. And so we've got to go get that money back, and that's what we're in the process of doing. (Media Matters.com)
You ever find yourself speechless? I mean you read a couple paragraphs from different sources, and the truth just grabs you around the neck so that you have a little problem inhaling and then exhaling.
I carry with me certain beliefs like my fat gut these last couple of years, or the little carry all I hang over my shoulder, or my many and heavy sins of the past. These beliefs are self-evident to me.
The day is 24 hours. Every year or so, somebody in Greenwich adds a second or two based upon measurements I will never comprehend. But I believe there are 24 hours in a day.
I believe that in about a year or so, I will reach 60. That kind of truth troubles me greatly. Although when Shaw was 75 he once said: Oh to be a young man of 55 again. This was only trumped by Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. who at the tender age of 93 said: Oh to be a young man of 75 again.
Regardless of issues surrounding a birth certificate, Barack Obama is President of the United States of America.
And I believe, as Al Franken once pointed out that Rush Limbaugh is a big fat liar. That words cannot exit from rush's mouth and form patterns that could be categorized as truths. It is an impossibility. And yet, today my entire world seemed to fall from order into chaos.
Because the two paragraphs reproduced by Media Matters contain truths. Stark realities.
RUSH LIMBAUGH TOLD THE TRUTH. And not once, but twice. Bold and beautiful truth. There for all to see. Incontrovertible Truth.
Let us examine my first example. Rush would have us believe that now true capitalists will have to work twice as hard for their money. And there it is, in black & white from the New York Times, the symbol of truth in this country. (At least when they are not employing shills who really work for w and reproduce lies issued from the WH in the first place!)
The New York Times as declared that the billionaires are making half of what they did. I mean, their income has fallen off by a factor of 50% from 2007 to 2008. Again, incontrovertible. So it is doubly tough for these giants of industry to make a buck.
But it is the second example that really made me breathless. I am sorry but I have to, just have to recite it here again:
The poor and the middle class, this is a bunch of people that believe a bunch of things. One of the things they believe is that the nation's achievers and so-called wealthy have acquired their wealth by stealing it or not allowing others to have it, and this has created the middle class and the poor. And so we've got to go get that money back, and that's what we're in the process of doing.
While I might take issue with his first paragraph in terms of tone, hidden meanings, accusations against the current administration, I cannot take issue with one word here.
Now this giant hog of a man (sorry Miguel) has signed two contracts over the last five or six years totaling something like 700 million dollars to speak three hours a day, five days a week. He is certainly not poor or middle class. And yet his listeners are poor and middle class.
Watch these prison documentaries sometime on MSNBC on the weekends when my favorite source for news saves money by not airing any news. There are prisoners I have met back when I was practicing law that were republicans. There were people working for five bucks an hour who had to score weed to get through the month who were and are republicans. It makes no sense, I know. But it is a truth I have discovered over the last half century.
Now Obey has published a short blog that has taken me hours to review. Obey has supplied links that describe Geitner's plan. Scores and scores of pages written by the best economic minds in the world. Take some time to read it.
Not only do I not understand most of what is written there, but Obey, after reading my fine comments; comments I made after taking notes while reading the links, told me to go away and never some back. Obey could tell right away that I knew not what I was talking about.
But I will tell you this. I know what rush is talking about. rush is speaking to poor and middle class people. He is telling them that they are idiots. That they have no right to question the rich about their uncountable wealth. They have no right to ask the rich where or how they received their monies.
Now I used to say that while I watch the nightly NBC news, I am a moderate Democrat. And when I am watching David Brooks discuss an issue, I am a left wing Democrat. And while I watch bill orally, I become a socialist. And when I hear rush, I start thinking that Mao's little red book contains a lot of truths.
Rush is drawing a line in the sand, so to speak. He is actually saying: here I am, on this side and there you are on that side.
Now, I figure there are 300,000 people in the country who are really on Rush's side. They own and control 40% of the entire wealth of this country. One tenth of one percent of the population.That means there are over 300 million people who should see that this relatively small group holds interests that are counter to the majority's interests.
And I believe they stole that money. And I want that money back and I want it back now. NOBODY EARNS A BILLION DOLLARS. NOBODY.
I believe that this oligarchy needs to be taken down and replaced with a real democracy.
I think it is time to develop a new communism. A new socialism.
And rush has shown me the way, the light and the truth of it.
CITIZENS OF AMERICA UNITE, THE ONLY THINGS YOU HAVE TO LOSE ARE YOUR CHAINS.
LIMBAUGH: After they have made it doubly tough for anybody to run a profitable business, then they can go in and seize it, when you can't make a profit, when your business isn't doing -- this is all part of a plan. This is not a rescue. This is a plan. They are focused on the destruction of the private sector. They -- this is an all-out assault on capitalism.
LIMBAUGH: The poor and the middle class, this is a bunch of people that believe a bunch of things. One of the things they believe is that the nation's achievers and so-called wealthy have acquired their wealth by stealing it or not allowing others to have it, and this has created the middle class and the poor. And so we've got to go get that money back, and that's what we're in the process of doing. (Media Matters.com)
You ever find yourself speechless? I mean you read a couple paragraphs from different sources, and the truth just grabs you around the neck so that you have a little problem inhaling and then exhaling.
I carry with me certain beliefs like my fat gut these last couple of years, or the little carry all I hang over my shoulder, or my many and heavy sins of the past. These beliefs are self-evident to me.
The day is 24 hours. Every year or so, somebody in Greenwich adds a second or two based upon measurements I will never comprehend. But I believe there are 24 hours in a day.
I believe that in about a year or so, I will reach 60. That kind of truth troubles me greatly. Although when Shaw was 75 he once said: Oh to be a young man of 55 again. This was only trumped by Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. who at the tender age of 93 said: Oh to be a young man of 75 again.
Regardless of issues surrounding a birth certificate, Barack Obama is President of the United States of America.
And I believe, as Al Franken once pointed out that Rush Limbaugh is a big fat liar. That words cannot exit from rush's mouth and form patterns that could be categorized as truths. It is an impossibility. And yet, today my entire world seemed to fall from order into chaos.
Because the two paragraphs reproduced by Media Matters contain truths. Stark realities.
RUSH LIMBAUGH TOLD THE TRUTH. And not once, but twice. Bold and beautiful truth. There for all to see. Incontrovertible Truth.
Let us examine my first example. Rush would have us believe that now true capitalists will have to work twice as hard for their money. And there it is, in black & white from the New York Times, the symbol of truth in this country. (At least when they are not employing shills who really work for w and reproduce lies issued from the WH in the first place!)
The New York Times as declared that the billionaires are making half of what they did. I mean, their income has fallen off by a factor of 50% from 2007 to 2008. Again, incontrovertible. So it is doubly tough for these giants of industry to make a buck.
But it is the second example that really made me breathless. I am sorry but I have to, just have to recite it here again:
The poor and the middle class, this is a bunch of people that believe a bunch of things. One of the things they believe is that the nation's achievers and so-called wealthy have acquired their wealth by stealing it or not allowing others to have it, and this has created the middle class and the poor. And so we've got to go get that money back, and that's what we're in the process of doing.
While I might take issue with his first paragraph in terms of tone, hidden meanings, accusations against the current administration, I cannot take issue with one word here.
Now this giant hog of a man (sorry Miguel) has signed two contracts over the last five or six years totaling something like 700 million dollars to speak three hours a day, five days a week. He is certainly not poor or middle class. And yet his listeners are poor and middle class.
Watch these prison documentaries sometime on MSNBC on the weekends when my favorite source for news saves money by not airing any news. There are prisoners I have met back when I was practicing law that were republicans. There were people working for five bucks an hour who had to score weed to get through the month who were and are republicans. It makes no sense, I know. But it is a truth I have discovered over the last half century.
Now Obey has published a short blog that has taken me hours to review. Obey has supplied links that describe Geitner's plan. Scores and scores of pages written by the best economic minds in the world. Take some time to read it.
Not only do I not understand most of what is written there, but Obey, after reading my fine comments; comments I made after taking notes while reading the links, told me to go away and never some back. Obey could tell right away that I knew not what I was talking about.
But I will tell you this. I know what rush is talking about. rush is speaking to poor and middle class people. He is telling them that they are idiots. That they have no right to question the rich about their uncountable wealth. They have no right to ask the rich where or how they received their monies.
Now I used to say that while I watch the nightly NBC news, I am a moderate Democrat. And when I am watching David Brooks discuss an issue, I am a left wing Democrat. And while I watch bill orally, I become a socialist. And when I hear rush, I start thinking that Mao's little red book contains a lot of truths.
Rush is drawing a line in the sand, so to speak. He is actually saying: here I am, on this side and there you are on that side.
Now, I figure there are 300,000 people in the country who are really on Rush's side. They own and control 40% of the entire wealth of this country. One tenth of one percent of the population.That means there are over 300 million people who should see that this relatively small group holds interests that are counter to the majority's interests.
And I believe they stole that money. And I want that money back and I want it back now. NOBODY EARNS A BILLION DOLLARS. NOBODY.
I believe that this oligarchy needs to be taken down and replaced with a real democracy.
I think it is time to develop a new communism. A new socialism.
And rush has shown me the way, the light and the truth of it.
CITIZENS OF AMERICA UNITE, THE ONLY THINGS YOU HAVE TO LOSE ARE YOUR CHAINS.
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"I think it's time to develop a new communism. A new socialism."
Can we think a little bit here before we all go a bit too Ruskie?
March 25, 2009 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rushie, not Rusky. Rusky could be too risky. So to speak.
March 25, 2009 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
FUNNY dickday.
You done made my day.
March 25, 2009 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahahahaahahaha. I am glad you like this.
March 25, 2009 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
It takes a lot to cheer me up dickie. I'm quitting while the laughs still linger.
March 25, 2009 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, Dickon.
Hoo Boy, did you hammer that truth home.
=D
March 25, 2009 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for that Bwak. I just feel a little over the top today. And why not?
March 25, 2009 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
dd,
Terrific post.
Now you know how I usually agree with you on issues, but ....
RUSH ALWAYS TELLS THE TRUTH! Every word he spews as his jowls wriggle with wrath only provides us with the facts about his persona and goals. Both are disgusting, distorted and disreputable.
March 25, 2009 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Auntie, you have me giggling at 1:30pm. Thank you.
March 25, 2009 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's evil afoot to try and squash what protections exist for the working classes as we speak, dd. Go take a look at Ramona's blog for today. Why should one person 'earn' a billion dollars when millions want only an opportunity to earn a living wage? It is so....lopsided. I really understand your anger here.
March 25, 2009 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Flower, I felt not in the mood for fairy tales today. It is fun to rant and see the reactions of my friends.
March 25, 2009 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh and Flower, I seem discombobulated today. Where is Ramona's Blog?
March 25, 2009 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here I am. (Ramona's blog) But you might not want to read it today, since you're having so much fun here. Mine is a bit of a downer, but we write what we feel when we feel it, right?
But about this quote (Wish I knew HTML so that I could color code or italicize in between lines):
LIMBAUGH: The poor and the middle class, this is a bunch of people that believe a bunch of things.
(Now THERE'S a profundity worth quoting. I see now why he's worth every million.)
One of the things they believe is that the nation's achievers and so-called wealthy have acquired their wealth by stealing it or not allowing others to have it, and this has created the middle class and the poor. (Who are these "so-called wealthy"? The billionaires we're talking about here? They're deserving folk just trying to help out here. Wouldn't want to turn them into mere millionaires, now would we? Because if we did that we'd be cutting off our noses to spite our faces. The gushers of money pouring from them to us would be just a trickle. . .down.)
And so we've got to go get that money back, and that's what we're in the process of doing. (Who's this "we" he's talking about? How did he go from "they" to "we"? When has he ever gone from "they" to "we"?)
I'm lurking a lot here and getting to know some of you through your writing. Enjoying it immensely but sometimes you're way over my head and I don't feel comfortable commenting. But with Rush, it's a different story. He's even dumber than I am.
March 25, 2009 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said!!!!
You're not "dumb" at all Ramona... we're all expressing our frustrations over so many intertwined things...
Thanks for adding your perspective...
March 25, 2009 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ramona, I am the lowliest of the low, but I know a few things, and YOU ARE NOT DUMB!!!
I read and reread this paragraph. The first time I saw it was yesterday. And I went back to it three times before I decided to clip it.
An amazing paragraph.
March 25, 2009 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see you found Ramona's blog. I apologize for not providing the link in my original comment. :o(
Have a good evening, my friend!
March 25, 2009 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
We are fine Flower. Ramona came and I clicked her name and all is well. But thank you. I never would have looked for it. Very fine blog on her part.
March 25, 2009 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well bless your little pea-pickin' hearts! Thanks and thanks and thanks. Now back to the originally scheduled program. . .
March 25, 2009 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dick, that is not what I meant at all. I agreed with everything you were saying! I had just dumped all the tabs from my morning reading in a convenient place - a blog - for crazy people like eds and ellen who, along with me, have a weird fetish for this stuff, and might find some of the details useful.
You are always so generous in reading, giving consideration, and commenting on everything I post, reading all the links in my little compilations and giving your wise and funny responses to them. Then I saw you going through THESE pieces, which I felt weren't worth your precious time. - And I mean that very seriously. I felt that they were literally not worth your time. And I felt guilty about that. I felt like I was serving up take-away pizza for some visiting deity. I hope you understand this...
oh dear, you really misunderstood me.
March 25, 2009 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Such a sensitive pug!
It was a very good blog. I didn't feel worthy of commenting. Although that never usually stops me.
=D
March 25, 2009 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
noooooo, Athena read my blog as well. Dear lord, I have to be careful what I post. ;0)
March 25, 2009 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah Bwak, your contributions, like your eggs, are always Grade A!
March 25, 2009 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obey, for chrissakes (blesses himself) I was laughing the entire time I wrote the paragraph about you.
The fact is that you forgot more about economics than I every would care to know. hahaahahahahaha
I still cant stop laughing.
Whether you believe it or not, you have put together a great symposium about Geitner's plan.
It is really remarkable. At least to people like me.
My problem, my real problem, is that the average voter is never going to have the faintest idea what these geniuses are talking about.
Your blog does better at analyzing the single most important economic plan in 75 years than anything I have seen written in one place.
March 25, 2009 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
hooooo (relief). Geez, you had me scared. A blog praising Limbaugh (my new French father-in-law...yikes) and ripping into me. It was like a whole new and worse nightmare. Dick becomes a Limbaugher...
March 25, 2009 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Limbaugh may have simply, like a stopped clock, chosen this as one of his twice-daily accidental moments of being correct.
Different than "telling the truth"...
March 25, 2009 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is superb. Twice a day. Why not twice a year?
ahahahaha
March 25, 2009 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Federal Reserve is trying to go for a new politics in which control of the economy is further privatized, while control of politics is further socialized.
Think South Africa and the ANC with the Whites being the Fed.
March 25, 2009 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well eds. I wish it to be the other way around.
March 25, 2009 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know how to help you, dickday, except what help may come from me posting at TPM.
March 25, 2009 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's too bad we do not have someone on Saturday Night Live who could just read this to people, like Tina fey did with Palin. It's very funny and people need to laugh at Rush because he is the Clown-in-Chief of the Republican Party. When you stop and think about it, even Darth Cheney did not take the chance to declare that HE was the Leader of the Republican Party when he had a platform last week.
March 25, 2009 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gregor, you got that right. dicky c was not only evil, he did something about it. He got all this legislation passed, soldiers on the field and monies in the pocket of his own company.
March 25, 2009 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said, DD. Well said.
March 25, 2009 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Brant. Thank you for taking some time to hear my RANT!!!!hahahhaha
March 25, 2009 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
okay, color me clueless.
The first quote is accusing the Obama administration of preparing to take over private finance. I don't see how that is "the truth."
The second is a bellicose sweeping generalization about what "poor and middle class folks" believe. And having grown up in poverty, I have never believed that poverty was caused by the wealthy.
So was this a satire, or just too subtle for me?
March 25, 2009 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, no, no, I disagree with part of what you are saying. Health insurers and drug companies help keep millions poor and others poorer than they need be.
Health insurers make money off of the pain and suffering of other people and they are rewarded along with the drug companies for their efforts. It is easier to see the drug companies stealing. They did it directly with the help of w.
I might do a blog on this. Maybe next week.
I am just giving you my humble opinion.
March 25, 2009 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Louise, if you do not believe Rush, and you do not believe Dr. Dick, I do not know who you will believe. Perhaps A Nobel prize winning economist?
Stiglitz:
"Quite frankly, this amounts to robbery of the American people. I don't think it's going to work because I think there'll be a lot of anger about putting the losses so much on the shoulder of the American taxpayer"
He is of course talking about the ongoing robbery of a measly 2-3 trillion dollars, but one could add a whole number of economic statistics about the vast increase, over the past eight years, in wealth and income for the top 0.01% of the population and the simultaneous fall in both wealth and income for the average American, the fall in labor rights, consumer protections, the increase in vast state protections for corporate interests of various sorts. But perhaps I'll stop. Because I suppose there is some consolation in your feeling that you have not been robbed. Enjoy it while it lasts...
March 25, 2009 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahahahahahahaha SPEECHLESS
March 25, 2009 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
THE MOB RULES!!! ;0)
March 25, 2009 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
LITTLE one, you have been buzzing in the books...
=D
March 25, 2009 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
LITTLE one, you have been buzzing in the books,
Flittering in the newspapers and drinking beer with lawyers
And amid the educated men of the clubs you have been getting an earful of speech from trained tongues.
Take an earful from me once, go with me on a hike
Along sand stretches on the great inland sea here 5
And while the eastern breeze blows on us and the restless surge
Of the lake waves on the breakwater breaks with an ever fresh monotone,
Let us ask ourselves: What is truth? what do you or I know?
How much do the wisest of the world’s men know about where the massed human procession is going?
Bwak you are not getting away with this. Not on my blog. hahhahahahahaha
March 25, 2009 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
you forgot the lines about the Mob, Dickon. And get away with wot?!
I am an old chicken he is a youngster pug. We are friends.
=D
March 25, 2009 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was laughing because the poem talks about beer drinking lawyers. I meant no shortcuts here. Oh and it was extremely difficult to copy this thing. I might be running out of cookies or temp or some damn thing.
No, I thank you Bwak for bringing this to us.
March 25, 2009 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hum, actually drinking beer with lawyers, which I had the pleasure of doing recently. Although, not quite in person.
=D
March 25, 2009 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh we shall someday. Who knows, maybe I can pretend to be right wing and write something for some conservative think tank and make a million and then
travel to see my friends. ACK ACK ACK
March 25, 2009 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
My Sandburg for Dickon:
TWO fishes swimming in the sea,
Two birds flying in the air,
Two chisels on an anvil—maybe.
Beaten, hammered, laughing blue steel to each other—maybe.
Sure I would rather be a chisel with you than a fish. 5
Sure I would rather be a chisel with you than a bird.
Take these two chisel-pals, O God.
Take ‘em and beat ‘em, hammer ‘em, hear ‘em laugh.
March 25, 2009 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
this is for the boids. ACK ACK ACK
HAHAHAHAHAHA
March 25, 2009 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for that Chicken! I gotta get me some of that Sandburg!!
March 26, 2009 2:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
The key discrepancy for me, or maybe simply another way of putting it, is that over the last 30 years the productivity of the average worker has steadily increased (as it did historically before that) but real wages have stagnated. People are producing a lot more but they're not getting paid for it, meanwhile rich people are getting richer.
That Free Market sounds like a good thing. We ought to try it sometine.
March 26, 2009 1:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
You got it Dave. Yes, yes yes. Redistribution of wealth, the old fashioned way, they BOUGHT IT. Ever so often, my belief in the human ability to reason, is enriched. So to speak. I have the wrong words here but thank you, thank you Dave for chiming in.
March 26, 2009 1:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Very well put Dave!
March 26, 2009 2:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
My DD "fix" for the day!!!!
March 25, 2009 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Jade, kind words for Ramona and kind words for little ole me. ha
March 25, 2009 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well actually he's tapping into a strain of populism that is all the rage these days and though some of what he's saying may be true, I am still suspicious of his motives. Stating the truth once in a while does not an honest man make and even the devil (the father of lies) will mix lies with the truth. The devil is in the details, and the motive is in the full context.
March 25, 2009 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
You got that right Professor. Thanks for dropping by and joining in. And good blog today!!!
March 25, 2009 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where I part company with Rush is when he equates making cash with merit when often it only equates with being part of a govnment conspiracy to defraud the taxpayer.
I believe that people who earn money without government intervention and government favor have the right to keep it all minus a small percentage to fund legitiamet govnment services they receive. This excludes the entire banking and insurace cartels (the money gamers). Next he's going to tell the people who make their cash in the stadium I was FORCED to pay for actually "earned" it.
The ideal system of taxapation pays only for the legitimate uses of government force (justice and defense etc) and collects taxes equally on the first and last dollar of income. Government does not support welfare or charity since the government cannot be charitable unless you allow charity to be collected at gunpoint which is how the government collects its "charity" cash today.
With regard to AIG bonuses they received stolen cash and just because the government did the stealing for them (which, by the way, is now the primary function of government) does not mean its theirs - AIG should be defunt and their employest should be collecting unemployment insurance. The illegal gains should be recovered and returned to the people it was stolen from. The thieves are all in congress and in the white house and should all be prosecuted for this crime
Lastly we must tax all the not-for-profit agencies at the same rate we tax eveyone else. This means the hospitals, the churches, the foundations, the unions, univeristy, schools, everyone - you make money - you pay taxes. period. Hospitals and schools are not more important to society at large than garbage collectors
March 25, 2009 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
A lot there to digest BF. I am of the 'other persuasion' as I note.
But I cannot say that you do not have a point, that you have no argument here.
There have been conspiracies, thousands of them and they were aimed at getting government money for corporate use.
Thank you for joining in.
March 25, 2009 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
The worst thing about Limbaugh is that as much as he loves to defend his rich pals by saying that none of their millions or billions of dollars could have been stolen (because they were all clearly earned the good ol' American way), just as much he loves to denigrate lower class Americans by saying that all of their money must have been stolen or given to them by welfare. All while decrying the Democrats for playing the "class warfare" card and instituting "socialism", when of course, it was Bush who ran up huge national deficits, more than doubled the national debt.....
But what's the point? Facts have no way with that idiot or any of his dittohead followers.
March 26, 2009 1:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, but Super, we get to use his own words. And I forget where, but somebody had the opportunity to ask him questions that were not delivered by his rules and he failed.
We must keep documenting what he says. That is why I refer you to Media Matters. They got a bug up their arses about this, and they will not let it go.
It is a superlative critique of a demagogue that I swear will appear in books a hundred years from now.
No kidding.
Oh and I forget, I appreciate all who come and take time to read my drivel!!! ahahahahaha
I always read your stuff.
March 26, 2009 1:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well said Dick. I haven't yet read the comments, but will go back and do so as soon as I make a small point. The only thing I might possibly modify is the assertion that the wealth was stolen. On some level, (I know, I know, the monied class controls the media, health care, insurance, finance, in short, they control the means of production and distribution), I think we ALLOWED them to take that wealth. From the inception of Republican tax cuts under Reagan through the present, we've been systematically pilfered by the wealthy, in the biggest con, the biggest redistribution of wealth toward the upper tail end of the monetary distribution curve since the decline and fall of feudalism. And we allowed that to happen, by buying into the meme of trickle down economics, a financial theory not given credence by major economists, but pushed, like a dealer with his smack, by the editorial writers of the Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, et al. And as they so often have found it so hard to do, the wealthy were unable to sate their greed, and continued to grab more and more for themselves, till they kill the goose that laid their golden eggs, the middle class and proletariat upon which all production and consumption of the goods necessary to civilization depend. I've ranted enough. Let the revolution begin.
March 26, 2009 1:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh no. See Miguel that is the point. I buy everything you are saying. I mean everything.
First, Propaganda bought and paid for by the evil ones.
Second, I look at Leno on the street asking people who is vice president of the USA and not getting correct answers.
Third, I know there is voter fraud. Having an effect in 2000 and 2004.
Fourth, media. Whatever the hell that means.
I might work for four hours trying to get an Arthur segment put together. This one took me less than two. I was mad. But I discover once again why I am here. I get four or five more recs and many comments.
And I am sad because I love Arthur.
But I am happy because I know I can go over the top here. And I quote rush and people know exactly what I am talking about. Only two comments that call into question what I have read.
Amazing. I could have done this rant orally to friends ten years ago, when I had friends, and they would have given me that blank look.
No blank look here.
Oh, and Media Matters got mad at Rush. I do not know why they chose to do this now. I have always lovedd them. But they are mad. And they are spending a lot of space and time on this. And I applaud them.
Geez I like you Miguel. No kidding.
March 26, 2009 2:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Dick, don't be sad because Arthur gets fewer recs than a 'big fat liar tells the truth' blog. The market for antiquarianism suffers in the face of true tabloid journalism, but the end product is not diminished. I've been away for too much of the Arthurian saga, and have much catching up to do.
March 26, 2009 2:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
we recently had a lottery here (Canada) where the prize was forty-nine million dollars. i bought a ticket, cause i'm an idiot, but the prospect of winning actually jarred. Should anyone have fifty million dollars? Should there be a place where we say, you've got enough, you win the game of life, and you're perfectly free to continue working for free?
March 26, 2009 6:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Otherguy, you got a point. A lot of very ruck people were at the right place at the right time. It was like they won the lottery.
You win the game of life. Very well put. A 90% top tax rate would do the trick.
March 26, 2009 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
"NOBODY EARNS A BILLION DOLLARS. NOBODY."
Amen, brother day. Amen.
March 26, 2009 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
What about Bill Gates, or Steve Jobs. They made things people use. They sold alot of 'em, fair and square.
I only blame those that make money appear and disappear out of thin air.
When Americans invent, innovate, and make useful things, and get paid for it, that money is earned.
March 26, 2009 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh there are exceptions Dorn. I might get into this in another blog next week. I suppose it looks like I am jealous or coveting my neighbor's goods. I do not mean it like that.
March 26, 2009 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why not a 90% tax rate? Why not more regs and shareholder rights?
March 26, 2009 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
What gets me are the people that listen to and pray to Limbaugh and buy into all his crap, how many are company executives and how many are truck drivers and waitresses?
“Every crowd has a silver lining” - P.T. Barnum
March 26, 2009 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Human psychology is a harsh mistress.
March 26, 2009 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
That is one of my points Steve. Waitresses and truck drivers. Fewer waitresses though. You cannot run at the mouth talking about feminazis and get a huge female following. hahahahah
March 26, 2009 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great blog D, you always, and I mean always, say something interesting.
March 26, 2009 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
why do you people even know what rush is saying?
if you listen to the guy he is doing what he gets payed for.
now, i hear you all saying it doesnt matter that you spend all day worrying about rush and his words cause if a tree falls in the forest it still falls.
ahh,,thats where you make your mistake...
the falling tree is only important IF YOU STAND UNDER IT!
March 26, 2009 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Supposedly twenty million people tune into this demagogue every single week. His regular listeners are probably half that or less. But he sells his soap and hemorrhoidal herbs and he gets money for doing so.
But the people he touches touch us. I cannot ignore him anymore than I can ignore the Pope. They both affect the vote. And every time a lie is published by the right, the lie must be confronted.
The sob is in the news EVERY SINGLE DAY. I check in with Media Matters every week, several times. They began this series on him.
That was the origin of this blog.
March 26, 2009 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have listened to Rush not heard him on the radio but listened.
He often twists information to fit the circumstances. Forget the truth, it is facts that matter. Rush takes liberty with both facts and the truth to make his point. He is in the entertainment business appealing to people who believe a certain way and will not be influenced by logic or facts.
No, I have listened to Rush and on the odd occasion he is capable of making a reasonable case for some position that he desires to take. More often than not however he reverts of sensationalism that twists and bends information without regard to how outrageous his comments are.
In short he is not some political genius or even someone whose words reflect thought and consideration.
Rush is an entertainer who has lived his own life as anything other than the conservative he pretends to represent.
3 wives and drug abuse qualifies him for Penthouse not taking on the whitehouse.
March 29, 2009 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink