PUNDITS AND WHY BWAKFAT HATES THEM
Bwakfat introduced a discussion on Pundits and their effect upon cable news as well as our nation. We came to the conclusion that pundits make punds.
Now everyone knows that a pun is a word, line or statement capable of two or more meanings.
A pund is a cliche that is devoid of any meaning whatsoever. Here are a few, some I grew up with, some are newer, but they all will be heard every day on cable news as well as nightly news on the networks:
1. It is always darkest before the dawn. This is patently false. If one is ever disposed to rising before dawn, he would find that it seems to get lighter and lighter and lighter until Rosy Fingered Dawn (Homer) brings forth the new day. Now once in awhile a great thunderstorm creeps just over the eastern horizon and in fact it is darkest before the dawn, but know one really knows dawn has actually arrived without consulting an almanac.
2. Everyday in every way we are getting better and better. No, we are all not getting better and better. Many of us reach 50 and it is all downhill from there. But that is ok because it used to be 40.
3. We are witnessing history. History is yesterday. Sometimes this morning if it is noon. I figure history is usually at least 12 hours old. Cable news will always advertise that they are presenting to you history as it is being made. That is what journalism is supposed to be, not history and cable news has given up journalism years ago. About the time of the OJ trial--the first one.
4. This is the single greatest (quarterback, running back, defensive end, baseball player, golfer, pick your favorite sport, team, player here) I have ever seen. Except that, of course, Tiger is the single greatest golfer you have ever or will ever see.
5. We have reached a new era in (politics, war, fashion, communications, journalism, you can just about pick anything you feel like here)
6. My mother-in-law is so fat....no that's a terrible stand-up routine. I get mixed up sometimes.
7. Stay tuned because MSNBC is THE place for news.
8. There are two sides to every issue. NO. This is false. Sometimes, most of the time in fact, there are two or three hundred different sides to an issue but you cannot fit that many perspectives into a news slot and still show commercials. The earth is not 8,000 years old.
Tom DeLay does not have anything of interest to say about anything. And most Republicans really do not have anything of value to put on the table, so to speak.
9. Never before has America faced such peril. Stay tuned, do not change that dial, we will show you what peril it is that you have never faced after this message from Viagra.
10. We must put the partisanship behind us. Ok. Tell that to DeLay, Frist, McConnel, Boener, Rove, Cheney, Cornin....Think about this: what exactly does that mean? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Vacuous.
11. Lobbyists are destroying this country. Not true. Only 95% of them are really attempting to destroy this country. Remember ACLU, NAACP, and scores of other groups interested in making sure that the poor, and the handicapped, and the powerless represent at least five percent of all the monies spent on lobbyists. And they end up receiving about five percent of the government handouts.
12. Earmarked legislation is bad. Not true if the earmarked funds go to your state or to your father's company.
Think of your own punds and post them here along with your recommendations.
I will give them all to Bwak. Ack, ack, ack.
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Government is the problem ... oh that was Reagan. I thought it was a talking head.
I'm the Decider ... oh that was w. I thought it was a talking head.
It's your job to go about your business ... oh that was w, I thought it was a talking head.
After reading your post, I would venture to say the politicians can be pundits too!
January 21, 2009 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes the pols are definitely pundits.
And when republican pols are in power, government is the problem. That's just the God's honest truth.
January 21, 2009 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Frankly I'd prefer alot less Republican Government.
January 21, 2009 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
As do a number of us at this site Kam. Thanks for dropping by!!
January 21, 2009 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The less the better, if they're going to behave like that last bunch of thieves.
January 21, 2009 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arthur, like Obama, you continue to amaze me. You are funny, smart, you come up w/ the most creative, interesting posts! What an asset you are to TPM! I'm so glad you found us!
January 21, 2009 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stilli you are always too nice. But this whole idea came from Bwak and I woke up thinking about it. She is having a ball at her blog. We were laughing all nite but I think you were there.
January 21, 2009 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
See I have to get up too darn early! I make myself stop reading y'all's blogs after work 'cause I end up lying in bed thinking up clever things to say to you guys the next day and I get no sleep. Add to that the fact that I spend half the next day trying to (usually only semi-successfully) reconstruct the insanely hilarious retorts I dreamed up the night before instead of finishing this dang policy analysis that's due TOMORROW...
A bad influence! That's all you guys are! A bad bad influence!
:-)
January 21, 2009 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
We really do our best CL. My purpose in life is to keep people uninformed, because when they are informed they realize it is a waste of time to read my blogs.
You have had some fine comments over the last week or so. You keep the discussion flowing.
January 21, 2009 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah you can tell when I really haven't got anything to do at work 'cause I have limited braincells and if I use too many actually carrying out the duties assigned to me (for which you as a taxpayer are financially liable) then my posts get torpid and inane. When I'm thoroughly wasting your taxes I can write some deep and witty stuff...
January 21, 2009 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ack! Tell dd I do not hate the pundits, I am merely tired of them.
To hate them would require an emotional investment of some sort on my part.
=D
You don't need to think up anything, you are very funny all on yer own.
So do you manufacture buggy whips?
January 21, 2009 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK. Here's my two cents... Dang it! There's a cliche right there. Oh, well. Let me try again. I mean, if first you don't succeed, try try... DAMMIT! There I go again! OK. Bbbbbbbb... Shake it off! There we go. I realize now I've used cliches all my life, and I guess... you can't teach an old dog new... OW! DAMN! Jesus! Did it again!
January 21, 2009 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know, there's one right there. Sometimes every thing that comes off of my keyboard or my mouth sounds like some computer simulation.
January 21, 2009 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't sweat the small stuff, SFC. Tomorrow IS another day. You can turn over a new leaf. All is well that ends well. It's not as bad as you think.
See I did all that without a single cliche!
January 21, 2009 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, guys. Got my eye out for that silver lining that perks up every dark cloud.
January 21, 2009 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd give my left....something, to be as clever as you guys are!
January 21, 2009 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I liked it. I'm recommending it, but I do have one problem.
"Dawn" is defined as "the first appearance of light in the sky before sunrise". You said "...it seems to get lighter and lighter and lighter..." - what you're referring to there is the dawn. So technically, yeah, it is darkest before the dawn. Because before any light shows up, it gets really dark. Now, if by "dawn" you meant "sunrise", then I would agree. But since it's not "it's always darkest before sunrise", I'm gonna have to side with the pundits. ...Or Christopher and Jonathan Nolan, who used the line in The Dark Knight. ;)
January 21, 2009 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I could have my head up...well, well,well,
I always think of dawn, eos as the sun rising in the east. I am going to review this, but you may have me there.
January 21, 2009 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nathan: you're not siding with the pundits -- you're siding with the pedants. Very funny.
January 21, 2009 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
;)
January 21, 2009 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well I'm only half an idiot, I guess:
Dawn refers to the twilight before sunrise. It is recognized by the presence of weak sunlight, while the sun itself is still below the horizon. There are also more technical definitions of dawn, including the following:
Astronomical dawn
the moment after which the sky is no longer completely dark, formally defined as the time at which the sun is 18 degrees below the horizon in the morning. [1]
Nautical dawn
the time at which there is just enough sunlight for the horizon and some objects to be distinguishable, formally defined as the time at which the sun is 12 degrees below the horizon in the morning. [1]
Civil dawn
that time at which there is enough light for objects to be distinguishable and that outdoor activities can commence, formally defined as the time at which the sun is 6 degrees below the horizon in the morning. [1]
Dawn should not be confused with sunrise, which is the moment when the leading edge of the sun itself appears above the horizon.
In my defense, there are different dawns for different folks, nautical and civil dawn demonstrate there is some light before the dawn.
But the fact is, I still look like an idiot on this one. But what has changed?
January 21, 2009 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nah, you're not an idiot at all. And your defense is a pretty damn good one, given the circumstances.
And, I guess since the saying is "it's always darkest before the dawn" is a fallacy given the different definitions of "dawn" that you yourself provided. So, based on that, you're just partially wrong, not completely wrong. =)
January 21, 2009 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The one I hate is someone saying some bit of conventional wisdom is "like saying the sky is blue", or that denying it is "like denying the sky is blue".
The sky isn't always blue!! What if it's night? What if you are in Oklahoma and there is a storm system approaching? The sky can turn all KINDS of interesting colors.
January 21, 2009 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
The particular many times refutes the general. I agree with you. It looks like your cliche beats the hell out of 'dawn'.
January 21, 2009 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would quibble with you on No. 3. We ARE actually witnessing history - with everything we see. We see everything upside down. The brain processes what it sees from the eyes by turning it right side up and processes it further by making correlations to past and or learned memories. So everything you see is already history by the time your brain processes everything for you to understand - or not.
January 21, 2009 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good for you TX, I'll take that. Is it nanoseconds?
Whatever history is, we do not get a good take on it watching cable news, even if we exclude Fox.
January 21, 2009 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hi DD! This is very funny, but I'm confused. Who's Rosy and why did she finger Dawn?
January 21, 2009 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Burny--Where ya been?
In answer to your inquiry--its a Greek thing or
ITS GREEK TO ME
You gotta get movin here. We have some real battles goin on.
Great to be alive when good people are in power, huh?
Thanks for droppin by, I will be lookin for you.
January 21, 2009 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
the crack of....
(runs from room screaming)
January 21, 2009 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahaahahahahhahaahah
January 21, 2009 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bush, will undoubtedly go down as the worst President EVER ... (HEY! That's both amazingly accurate AND Pundit-y!)
One never knows, does one? (Yes, one does ... sometimes.)
This is Classic (Bush, Clinton, Rove, GOP, Liberal) tactics ... (sic: This is, not These are)
This is an outrageous miscaariage of Justice ...
(Name 5 miscarriages of Justice that are NOT outrageous)
Well, (Chris, Keith, Rachel, Wolf, Anderson, Larry) this has set a new low for (Senatorial, Congressional, Judicial) behavior ... (Code: I disagree entirely with what happened and hope I never get caught doing it like the schmuck we're talking about.)
January 22, 2009 1:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I went to bed before this and I was off the front page by the time I awoke.
This is good stuff Mr. Smith.
January 22, 2009 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink