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MOTHER JONES AND TEN SYMPTOMS THAT YOU MAY BE A LIBERAL
I stopped in at Mother Jones and perused the Jan/Feb issue which means it was probably written in December. MJ was always a place I could go to at the library before I got back on the net and I sometimes spent all afternoon catching up on old issues. Today I came across a particularly distasteful piece entitled ten ways to prove you are a liberal, or some such nonsense. The list included a suggestion that you may be a liberal if you order your pizza rather than picking it up.
MJ is having problems. I am not saying it is dead, I am just saying that it is ailing.
How do I know this? For me TPM is like the neighborhood, to me. It is relatively small, yet recognized. The best of all possible worlds. Everyday there are better pieces written here than the article I refer to, above.
I decided to start my own list to prove my point. I am really seeking other items to add to this list from my community here at TPM. So here goes,
TEN SPECIFIC SYMPTOMS THAT MAY INDICATE YOU ARE A LIBERAL:
1. Do you believe that the B-Movie Actor Ronald Reagan had as much to do with the Reagan Administration as the hood ornament on a Mac Truck?
2. Do you end up having to clean your TV screen every time you mislocate your remote and find yourself listening to Brit Hume with a tomato in your hand?
3. Do you find, unlike many Americans, that Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is a terrible film full of sound and fury and signifying nothing?
4. Is it your belief that not only should they remove 'under god' from the pledge of allegiance, but that you would rather pledge allegiance to the United States Constitution rather than a semifore?
5. Do you agree that there should be a law finding that anyone who displays a Confederate Flag has committed an act of treason as a secessionist?
6. Do you feel a little tinge of nausea everytime you see Nancy Reagan?
7. Is it your belief that there probably is no heaven when you die, but that every time you see Dick Cheney you find yourself praying that there is a hell?
8. Which of the following would you rather do:
Go to a function sponsored by the GOP or
Donate one of your own kidneys to a stranger for no recompense?
9. Do you find yourself slightly in favor of the death penalty every time you see Bolton or Feith?
10. Does your sex live get livelier every time an advocate of family values gets caught paying for homosexual sex?
Please, let us work together to get this list up to one hundred items.
MJ is having problems. I am not saying it is dead, I am just saying that it is ailing.
How do I know this? For me TPM is like the neighborhood, to me. It is relatively small, yet recognized. The best of all possible worlds. Everyday there are better pieces written here than the article I refer to, above.
I decided to start my own list to prove my point. I am really seeking other items to add to this list from my community here at TPM. So here goes,
TEN SPECIFIC SYMPTOMS THAT MAY INDICATE YOU ARE A LIBERAL:
1. Do you believe that the B-Movie Actor Ronald Reagan had as much to do with the Reagan Administration as the hood ornament on a Mac Truck?
2. Do you end up having to clean your TV screen every time you mislocate your remote and find yourself listening to Brit Hume with a tomato in your hand?
3. Do you find, unlike many Americans, that Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is a terrible film full of sound and fury and signifying nothing?
4. Is it your belief that not only should they remove 'under god' from the pledge of allegiance, but that you would rather pledge allegiance to the United States Constitution rather than a semifore?
5. Do you agree that there should be a law finding that anyone who displays a Confederate Flag has committed an act of treason as a secessionist?
6. Do you feel a little tinge of nausea everytime you see Nancy Reagan?
7. Is it your belief that there probably is no heaven when you die, but that every time you see Dick Cheney you find yourself praying that there is a hell?
8. Which of the following would you rather do:
Go to a function sponsored by the GOP or
Donate one of your own kidneys to a stranger for no recompense?
9. Do you find yourself slightly in favor of the death penalty every time you see Bolton or Feith?
10. Does your sex live get livelier every time an advocate of family values gets caught paying for homosexual sex?
Please, let us work together to get this list up to one hundred items.
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I agree only with #4. Guess I'm not a liberal.
Anything calls for the death penalty, I disagree. Any time a hypocrite reveals closet sexuality, I feel sorry for their families that the caught felt the need to live double lives.
January 10, 2009 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't agree with your basic premise that something is going wrong with Mother Jones. I go there daily like I do here, and I subscribe.
January 11, 2009 12:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I probably hit a couple of bad articles. But I was checking them regularly the last couple months. I have not given up.
January 11, 2009 7:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hi DD,
I agree that Mother Jones is starting to get a little dusty.
I think #7 is brilliant.
What do you think about the wording for this new Pledge of Allegiance?:
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it was created, one nation, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
I'll have to think a bit. then I'll add more later.
January 11, 2009 3:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like it Mage
January 11, 2009 7:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you! I'd much rather pledge allegiance to the Constitution!!!
AMEN!
January 11, 2009 11:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was easier to answer your questions than think of my own. Besides, I'm not clearly thinking after visiting the comments here.
.
1. No. It was the neocons in the library (of the Pentagon).
2. Who is Britt Hume?
3. Who is Mr. Smith?
4. I have commitment issues. Can I promise my pledge is in the mail instead?
5. I'd rather just see them flaggers committed to one of those 'funny' hospitals.
6. I trip up at the helmut hairline every time.
7. Hell is too good for the Dickster. How about Gitmo?
8. I would donate both kidneys before going to a GOP ratfu$k
9. Gitmo has faith in Feith and Bolton.
10. Even when they're not paying for homosexual sex.
January 11, 2009 4:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seashell has me laughing
January 11, 2009 7:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seashell has me chuckling, too.
I can't come up with a thing for your liberal version of, "You know yer a redneck when..."
I will continue to think....
I do not read Mother Jones.
I read Mother Earth.
Do you think they are related?
January 11, 2009 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I do not think so Flower. But I am going back and take a look. These are both fine periodicals. I was just disappointed with MJ lately.
January 11, 2009 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess I joined the right party after all. Thanks for giving me a baseline to work against, DD. Now, I guess I need to come up with ten signs that one might be a progressive.
January 11, 2009 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you are being tongue in cheek there Jason.
January 11, 2009 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are you, Jason? 'Cause I took you seriously.
Dickday, I follow you much more closely than I follow MJ. Your posts always say something to me. Today you make me think: "holy cr*p! If this is what it takes to be a liberal, then I gotta find another calling."
Keep fighting the fight, brother.
January 11, 2009 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was going to erase this whole thing at 6 AM. I don't know what I was thinking.
January 11, 2009 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a liberal.... able to change your mind!
January 11, 2009 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kind of tongue-in-cheek.
I guess I should have said I self-identified as a conservative properly, because most of those items are low on my list of things to worry about first. Though I do agree that the canonization of Reagan has been very premature.
The party I joined, as it currently exists, doesn't really reflect my values and beliefs in most respects. That is part of the experiment - to see if the GOP moderates can be molded into a viable opposition party before they all become independents or joined the dems.
I still submit one can be either liberal or conservative and still be progressive.
January 12, 2009 7:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I never believe in the death penalty. Never.
If someone wants to show their ignorance by displaying a confederate flag, that should be their right.
#4 is great!
I am rather fond of both Jimmy Stewart and the stupid little bulldog on the front of a truck.
Cheney will get his just rewards... regardless of what we believe, BUT I do have my faith in a God renewed every time I think of Ann Coulter with her mouth wired shut. I begin to doubt again when I realize it wasn't permanent.
January 11, 2009 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, OK. I am mostly against the death penalty. I think that baby rapers and serial killers should be executed.
But I am against the death penalty for the same reasons many, it is not meted out in a systematic and fair manner. A black man who rapes a white woman is more likely to get the death penalty than a white man raping a black man.
But our entire prison system discriminates against the poor and minorities.
I do not mean to bore you and I am not as proud of this post as I was when I wrote it yesterday. Thank you for your comment.
January 11, 2009 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
1. I don't believe Ronald Reagan was a B-Movie Actor. He starred in many big Hollywood productions with A -List actors of the time but he himself was a B-list talent. As far as his administrations policies he put them in place and was spokesman for them. I don't think he was ever smart enough to grasp the overall effect of those policies and as time went on his mental acuity diminished to the point where he was pathetic shell of himself testifying about Iran Contra.
2. I usually don't find anything on FOX worth watching for more than 3 seconds so I would never have the remote out of my hand on the few occasions I surf there. Life has enough irritations as it is without seeking them out.
3. I've never seen Mr. Smith Goes to Washington in it's entirety so I can't say.
4. I'd rather there not be a pledge of allegiance period.
5. No. It's a free country, if people want to display the stars and bars or even a Nazi flag it helps me figure out where they're coming from.
6. See answer to No. 2.
7. I don't know if there's a heaven or hell but I do know there is history. As I'd hoped for Ronald Reagan (and didn't get) I hope Cheney lives long enough to see just how harshly history judges him for all posterity. He deserves to die a broken man lamenting the damage he caused. I doubt he'll ever have such an epiphany so I'll be satisfied with history's judgment while he still lives.
8. Oh, I'd much rather go to a function sponsored by the GOP. Oppo research and comedy gold beats major surgery any day.
9. Not in favor of the death penalty but I might favor conscription of such people. But for the better answer see No. 7.
10. I never though about this one. I think my sex life is unaffected by family values advocates getting caught paying for homosexual sex. I can't imagine talking about it would make any woman I know horny though it might them laugh.
January 11, 2009 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
You must be a liberal if the sight of Tom Friedman's flapping jowls makes you sea sick.
January 11, 2009 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good one. It goes on the list.
January 11, 2009 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
That stupid sob was on one of Sunday shows and I swear to god that you would have thought he had won the Nobel Prize in Economics. He does not know shit about economics. oh another time.
January 11, 2009 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
You might be a liberal if….
1. You think it would be a better idea to spend $800 billion refinancing poor peoples’ mortgages than giving it to financial institutions that played fast & loose with mortgage-backed securities.
2. You experienced schadenfreude when you saw an SUV driver paying $75 to fill his gas tank.
3. You finish the phrase, “My country, right or wrong” with “when right, to support it; and when wrong, to correct it.”
4. You think that other people’s religions belong in their own homes and not yours.
5. You’re willing to give the Iraqi people a chance to run (or ruin) their own country than have us do it for them.
6. You think educating children is a good investment in the future of our society.
7. You’re willing to pay taxes for appropriate government functions.
8. You believe that basic preventive and emergency health care is among those appropriate government functions.
9. You’d rather have Tina Fey than Sarah Palin as vice president.
10. You’re going to breathe a huge sigh of relief when W starts clearin’ brush again.
January 11, 2009 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who is in charge of the list around here?
The list! We need the list!
January 11, 2009 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dave, you beat the hell out of mine. Good, good list. It really is good.
When right to support it, when wrong to correct it.
RIGHT ON or should I say left on?
January 11, 2009 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love #4!
January 11, 2009 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
1. Yes.
2. No, added self-cleaning wiper system during the election campaign.
3. Nope. Sorry, lost me on that one.
Frank Capra was a great director, and I don't see how believing that makes me not a liberal.
4. Do I really have to pledge to the second amendment?
5. No, treason charge is a bit harsh. Make them watch Dukes of Hazzard reruns on a loop 24/7 for the rest of their lives.
6. Is that what it is? I thought it was pity.
7. Yes ... and for all the rest of that administration.
8. Hobson's choice ... gotta go with the kidney donation.
9. See answer #7
10. No, but my glee gets glee-ier.
January 11, 2009 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Mr. Smith. But it is my Constitution right or wrong. Interpretations may vary.
The Second Amendment was for militias. Everyone deserves his or her own musket.
January 11, 2009 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
You might be a liberal if...
you have lately caught on to the new shoe craze.
Especially sandals that are made in Turkey.
I'm betting that a long range loafer is already in the planning stages.
January 11, 2009 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
THE PLANE THE PLANE
I take a three our nap and you take care of my blog, the one I was going to erase.
and What the hell is a range loafer?
January 11, 2009 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
"long range loafer"
I love it! Even though it's kind of contradiction in terms.... but does fit with w as a loafer...
January 11, 2009 11:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the hell is a range loafer?
George Bush
January 11, 2009 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another good one!
January 11, 2009 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I take a three our nap and you take care of my blog, the one I was going to erase.
Yes! And made it better, too!
What the hell is a range loafer?
Are you sure it was only a nap you took? I hate explaining my best jokes, but OK...
Remember the Iraqi journalist that threw his shoes at Bush? Well, the Turkish guy that made those sandals reported his business was booming a few days later. But since the thrower actually missed and then got taken down (tardily) by Bush's Secret Service, I thought a heavier shoe like a loafer combined with the ability to travel further (long range) would be helpful for when liberals want to pound on conservatives.
Get it? Honestly, dd. We need to work on this. :-)
Rumors have it that the Secret Service guys were laughing too hard to get there immediately.
Or they didn't think taking a shoe for the President was something they had signed up for. Bullets, yes. Shoes, not so much.
January 11, 2009 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
The range loafer is now forever embedded in my brain. But Markg8 has a pretty good alternative. I would not have taken a shoe lace for w
January 11, 2009 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, I really needed this laugh.
January 11, 2009 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bwak, is it just reneye the nazi or is CT getting personal. I dont like what is going on here. Do you want my help. I am having trouble following that thread.
January 11, 2009 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, CT seems to think I'm someone called worker, and keeps accusing me of awful stuff. I'm sure it's about as accurate as anything else he says--which is in my experience, not very. It's getting old. He's out of his tree, as usual. I'll just let them know if he keeps on with the stalking.
Thanks, though. I'm done with that thread. I had my say, and if that clear thinker wants to hob nob with the likes of that, it really don't surprise me. I just can't stand people dissing vets. That raynay is a real piece of work.
January 11, 2009 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bwak - ack- my Fred Dobbs postal reply to you is over there.
You're welcome for the laugh.
CT is not a good person to be around - there are ick signals coming thru the ether. I think we've held up well and gave much better than we got - which was ick. (and trucknutz)!
And dd gets a big kiss for coming to help.
January 11, 2009 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least one! DD is a sweetie.
Heh, you remember Dobbs? (sigh) I miss Howard, I used to have his email, maybe I'll see if I can find it. As for the other thing, it seems to me that one likes to follow and harrass people, Thera, Orlando... I guess it's my turn.
Give me a minute to get over it--OK I'm over it.
=D
Thanks for the support.
January 11, 2009 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
We could form a support group!
January 11, 2009 11:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sign me up!
=D
January 12, 2009 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Later it appears Quinn really ripped CT a new one.
And He was not obfuscating.
I am glad you feel better. The nazi is easier to deal with. He is wrong about everything. somehow those people never bother me.
January 11, 2009 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
They usually roll off me, too. But one time he made the most insulting about women and when called on it, he sincerely did not realize what the problem was. Seriously, I could not believe it but it was obvious that he saw nothing wrong with what he wrote.
I can do idiots. But sincere idots? BARF!!
And then!!! In the same thread he did not know the difference between neocons, paleocons and cons, although he was of course informing everyone of something we needed to know on the subject for our own good. And when I told him he was wrong, is when he posted the bad women thing, although it was not about me, per se.
(is there a period in that sentence - a break for air- or what?)
He came on a political blog and tried to to tell me I was wrong about neocons!!!
You don't want to ask me about neocons - I could bore you for days. And that would just be the prologue.
TruckNutz
Buttseks
I think I'm done now. :-)
January 11, 2009 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also.
January 11, 2009 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very elegant. I'm in awe of your compact, yet breathtaking form of speech.
January 11, 2009 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I learned it at wonkette.
(buttseks!!)
January 11, 2009 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cool!!
(trucknutz and buttseks!!!)
Raise ya a weasel.
January 11, 2009 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
ice weasel or south african weasel?
=D
I saw some of those trucknutz on the highway, I had no idea that is what they were called, but the word, er, fits.
January 11, 2009 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do not wish to see the term butt secks or whatever anymore. I am for feminism. But this goes to far for Ladies of a certain social level.
January 11, 2009 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
ouch!
(duly chastised)
January 11, 2009 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can you settle for trucknutz with an occasional butt-you-know-what if it slips out? If you wanna hang with the cool ones, ya know. :-)
Bwak, i've been waiting to see my first real pair (on a truck, that is).
January 11, 2009 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are such a troublemaker!
I love you, Seashell
=D
January 11, 2009 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are such an elite, cool doggie, seashell... tho I knows you'd never use those eggsack words.
January 11, 2009 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cool!!
(trucknutz and buttseks!!!)
Raise ya a weasel.
January 11, 2009 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ooops, too many tabs open in Firefox and it sent this twice. Sorry. Truly, dd.
January 11, 2009 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
.
Well . . .
I may be old school ... but...
I believe in government by the people and the United States Constitution.
The rights of the individual citizen.
Life.
Liberty
Dignity
Equality of opportunity
Justice within the law.
Privacy.
Private ownership of property.
Freedom of every citizen to worship as he or she may choose.
Freedom of thought.
Freedom of conscience.
Freedom of assembly.
Freedom of expression.
Freedom to vote.
~OGD~
January 11, 2009 10:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
YES, YES, YES. MUCH BETTER LIST. HATS OFF TO OLDENGOLDENDECOY.
January 11, 2009 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink