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	<title>destor23 recommended Happy Thanksgiving Cafe by destor23</title>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Maureen Dowd on Obama, Loyalty, and Greg Craig by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-25T17:31:50Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Good point.</p>]]>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Maureen Dowd on Obama, Loyalty, and Greg Craig by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-25T14:21:37Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Even with a Democrat in the White House the liberals make all the sacrifices. Depressing and deplorable.</p>]]>
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	<title>destor23 recommended Maureen Dowd on Obama, Loyalty, and Greg Craig by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Shared Sacrifice And War Taxes by destor23</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-24T21:51:31Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I think there's a lot to what you say on the energy front.  One compromise I'm more than willing to make from the left would be to start viewing nuclear power as green. The US has an abundance of uranium, we really don't need to be using fossil fuels to power our electric plants.</p>]]>
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	<title>destor23 recommended Goucher College Bans Speakers It Deems Anti-Israel --Also, How Joe Lieberman Became A Rightwing Crank by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Shared Sacrifice And War Taxes by destor23</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-24T16:59:00Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I agree with you there, lets have the debate. And let's talk honestly about what the costs have been both in terms of raised debt and missed opportunities.</p>]]>
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	<title>destor23 recommended The Public Option Dead by wrensis</title>
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  <published>2009-11-23T17:09:06Z</published>
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	<title>destor23 recommended Shared Sacrifice And War Taxes by destor23</title>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on War Surtax: Good Idea by coonsey</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-24T13:09:34Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>A war tax on everyone for Afghanistan now?  This war should have been over 7 years ago. Sorry but I don't feel a ton of personal responsibility towards this long fumble by our government and I'm not willing to contribute an extra dime to it in the middle of a recession.  Bring the troops home and spend the money here.</p>]]>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Why are Americans fascinated by Sarah Palin? by Ruth Rosen</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-24T13:03:39Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I've been having nice conversations with the ol dog lately Cville!</p>]]>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Why are Americans fascinated by Sarah Palin? by Ruth Rosen</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Oh, sheesh.  Come on. Community organizer in Chicago is a bigger job than mayor of Nowhere, Alaska. And Senator from Illinois is way bigger than governor of Alaska. :)</p>]]>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Why are Americans fascinated by Sarah Palin? by Ruth Rosen</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-24T01:56:41Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I disagree with you a lot bulldog, but I do like that you're friendly and have a great sense of humor.</p>]]>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Why are Americans fascinated by Sarah Palin? by Ruth Rosen</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-24T01:21:41Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Uh, TPM Editors?  Ruth made a typo, but... shouldn't some one be here to fix it?</p>]]>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Why are Americans fascinated by Sarah Palin? by Ruth Rosen</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-23T21:39:02Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>It's always dangerous to call somebody an idot in print, isn't it?</p>]]>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on Why are Americans fascinated by Sarah Palin? by Ruth Rosen</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-23T21:36:59Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I think the "can Sarah be president?" question misses the mark with her. That's not what she's really about.</p>

<p>Like Glenn Beck she serves as a focal point for right wing anger. Why are we out power? Because they, our own party's intellectual elites, abandoned us. They turned their backs on the real spine of the party. They cost us by not being Republican enough and by Republican we mean the real red state variety of gun lovers and heterosexual marry-ers.</p>

<p>Remember when HW Bush lost to Clinton? The Republicans blamed HW for not being Republican enough.  He raised taxes, they said, and created an opening for Ross Perot and Clinton stole the election. You see the same thing now.  They say that W "wasn't a conservative -- why just look at all the government spending he did!"</p>

<p>A Palin or a Beck could never win a national election because, in their role as rilers of the base they have to say crazy things. But they can make a lot of money and do a lot of damage from the fringe and that's all that matters.</p>

<p>But we shouldn't dismiss populists from either the right or the left. Trust is, both parties do have elites who often ignore the masses. Witness what Democrats have done with health care reform which has largely been in direct defiance of the party's base. Or witness how the Democratic establishment failed to stand up to Joe Lieberman when he ran for office after losing his party's primary.</p>

<p>The two parties definitely create the conditions for populists on both sides to flourish. That they will always be too radical to win elections doesn't hurt them any, their adherents take that fact as confirmation of what they already believe: that the establishment will never allow anyone who speaks for them to get into a position of power anyway.</p>]]>
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	<title>destor23 recommended Why are Americans fascinated by Sarah Palin? by Ruth Rosen</title>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on More Establishment BS by Jon Taplin</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>True but it's not a problem you can deal with now without dishing out a lot of pain to the people you're trying to help.</p>]]>
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	<title>destor23 recommended Vampire Banks Rise Again by Dean Baker</title>
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		    <title>destor23 Commented on More Establishment BS by Jon Taplin</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The question becomes - who does the government serve first, Americans who need jobs or our creditors? I think Bill Gross has to be taken with a grain of salt these days.  For all PIMCO's talk about the "New normal" the company is looking to get into equities for the first time ever.  Wonder why?</p>]]>
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