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Down with the Muslims: Assessing the Blame Game


We can't really claim to be blameless or fully magnanimous, but reading someone's comments on the speech, I am a bit struck that we helped get Egypt back the Sinai with a nice annual payoff, helped push the Russians out of Afghanistan, helped ease the Shah out the door, pushed the Iraqis out of Kuwait, fought in Somalia to try to calm things down, went into Bosnia and Kosovo to protect the people, complained loudly and initally somewhat effectively about Chechnya, and even have government broadcasts for freedom to the Muslim region now known as western China. And yet we're always giving these speeches saying, "hey, we really don't hate Muslims". For a nation built on marketing, we're really bad at PR. In fact, our Middle East efforts are really expensive bad PR. Bush even sent an accomplished PR agent on top of Karen Hughes and Condi Rice, and all of them came across ridiculously flat. And now, with change, a speech that consists largely of, "yeah, we've really got a lot of great accomplished Muslims" without naming one (okay, Keith Ellison, whoopdie), a speech that pretends we have no power designs on the rest of the world, a speech whose center point seems to be explaining something that should have been obvious quite some time ago, that 9/11 pissed us off, so much that we lost our heads and invaded Iraq. Oh wait, he didn't quite say that, did he? No, I think there was something about fighting for their freedom. I don't know. Maybe if we didn't drive expensive gas guzzlers, we wouldn't have to be coming up with such transparent nonsense to deal with the Middle East, and we wouldn't have to pretend to be at war with Islam. After all, Morocco was way cool in the 60's, Malaysia used to be a William Gibson cyberpunk fantasy, Indonesia? What can I say, give me 5 years there on the beach. Lebanon (without the civil war) - ooh la la, the cuisine, the cafés. Turkey? Fantastisch, has it all. The Gulf States have become party & money countries. Ignore Syria, insignificant, the only countries we have issues with are Iraq, Iran, Saudi and Libya. That's it. And Saudis are mostly our allies, even if they're a bit stiff. So 3 countries. Pakistan-India's just sibling rivalry, nothing much to do with us, they're mostly British anyway, think of it as football hooliganism. Afghanistan's irrelevant without Al Qaeda training camps. Tunisia, great vacation spot. Algerians? All up in Paris & Morocco now playing Rai music, France's issue, and mostly they just want jobs. Nigeria? Keep the oil flowing, that's all anyone needs to know. So why 55 minutes of explaining? Could have just brought in Rachid, "Rock El Casbah". Ein Volk, ein Kultur, it's all hip-hop now anyway. We've been enchanted with this part of the world ever since the time of Alexander. About time we figured out how to get down with it.

PS - Brilliant, I guess the keywords triggered off an ad campaign for "The International Muslim Matrimonials Site". "7 Brides for 7 Brothers", I suppose, down ol' Al Qahira way. Sing a song about them Sabine women, back when musicals were musicals and politically correct was something for the McCarthy hearings.

PPS - Also strange that the 'g' got lopped of "Assessing" in deriving the post URL - I guess Hassan-I Sabbāh has his eye on me, better make myself scarce. Who needs Alamont when we have Alamut? Who needs TV when we got T-Rex? Just call me Isma'il.


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Ok, LisB has gotta see that Rock el Casbah vid. Awesome.

"For a nation built on marketing, we're really bad at PR." Errrm, yes. The repeated invasions of the last 15-odd years haven't helped for some reason, though. Pointer - Stay away from Muslim nations with names starting with "I."

And Indiana. Just on principle.

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We did the first invasion of Iraq actually with support from quite a bit of the Muslim world. Quite a diplomatic feat overall. We all know it was over oil, but it was Kuwait's oil. And we can debate how Kuwait came to exist, but then we get to debate Qatar and the U.A.E. and Saudi itself. Don't want to go there, because U.A.E. especially seems to understand success from hard work and creativity, apart from sitting on lots of oil money - an ethic the rest of the region aside from Syrians/Lebanese hasn't quite grokked. (Hard work without creativity doesn't go very far).

Anyway, there was still a fair amount of hatred towards us in early 2001 before these "repeat invasions". Yeah, okay, if Israel's your girlfriend, what to do?

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I PERSONALLY THINK THAT DESI'S SENTENCES ARE TOOO LONG.

Other than that, he always has a point.

Noam Chomski has a point, he always had a point. But he pisses off Americans in general.

There must be something we do right. I mean there are great books out there. Even by Chomski, whom I adore.

I think there is a new way of looking at things.

But then, I wish sometimes to return to the era when I believed in Peter Pan and Santa Claus.

But I choose this. I mean why not? What the hell is the alternative?

I hate rich and powerful people. But they will always be with us.

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My next post talks about Obama's team doing the right thing by pushing Gitmo closing on the Hill as he gives his speech.

Sorry there's not much joy in Mudville these days. The rise in the number of states allowing same sex marriage and Hillary's State Dept edict giving family rights to employees are 2 big wins for the LGBT crowd.

I think Sotomayor's a reasonable pick, though certainly no overt progressive on personal rights - the land of property stays safe. Tell you what, give me more good news and I'll report it.

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I hate that about 1/4 of the civilized world is functionally off-limits to Americans since we elected that Texan president. And yes, we're really bad at PR, and as Quinn said, the wars haven't helped. I suspect there may be some other factors working against our credibility as well. Al Jazeera reports mixed reviews on Obama's speech. It's a start nonetheless, and so much better than having the clown ex-pres have a go at international diplomacy. For the most part the speech was directed at the man in the street of the Islamic world and not to outline sweeping policy changes. We'll see how it all plays out in the coming weeks/months/years. Cashing in the gas guzzlers does seem like a step in the right direction.

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I tried for Afghanistan in the 90's and it wasn't much better. Couldn't get into Iraq, not into Serbia, not Iran. Sudan? It's not like the world suddenly became unfriendly - we've been at this a while.

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So how many hits did you get out of freecountersnow? I was reading it backward, and trying to find the "snow... "

... powder falling from Baghdad to Bangalore...

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Don't worry, Kyoko, Mommy's only looking for her hand in the snow.

Only 56, but a slow post as well, didn't insult anyone. Hits from Indonesia, Holland, Tunisia, Serbia, Finland, UK. Morning time usually picks up though, might finish stronger.

My first Imperial post, in quest of greatness. I have crossed my Rubicon, headed for the Oxus. All of Asia lays spread out before me.

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Hmmmm. Quest for more search-related hits. Could pick up a handful with the obvious: David Carradine - Proof it was autoerotic asphyxiation. And suicide. And sex-thrill murder by Thai boy-toy. Britain's new Prime Minister Johnson. And Prime Minister Miliband. And Tony Blair's return. Penguins win the Cup. That sortof stuff should boost traffic.

But you really need to hit the news, the wild stuff, just before it happens. You know, Rush converts to Islam. Obama converts to Christianity. That sorta thing. Oh wait. "Rush dies from autoerotic asphyxiation." That'll bring 'em running.

What are we doing again?

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I knew you hated Rush, but converting to Islam? Asphyxiation? Dude, 2112 wasn't too bad, and they *were* funny with Bob & Doug McKenzie.

In terms of hits, any one of my posts could bring Google's search engine to its knees - stream of conscious free association combined with a wasted childhood spent in books and kiddie bars - it's a dangerous, lethal combination. (oh wait, I told ClearThinker I didn't read books. To quote the Baga, "HAR".

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Thanks, Des, for the post but especially the videos. I'm just trying to get thru some tough problems this last week or two and really needed a counter to the fawning over words. I have to say, tho, much as I enjoyed these, the originals always seem better to me (had this discussion about Dylan's singing). Vidi this-
Screamin Jay was all about spells...

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No one, but no one can compete with Screamin' Jay (and that skull has a nasty chain smoking habit, better tell it to cut it out or.... never mind). But thought Rachid held his own, like the Clash meets '83 Talking Heads.

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Howlin' Wolf would eat SJH for brakfast

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Your writing can be clever, so that's good. But because you base everything you're saying on such skewed information - more like a series of half-truths and mis/disinformation - I can't even begin to want to read anything else you'll be writing, here or anywhere else.

When you riff from one propaganda set piece to another, it's like you're a witless witness for the defense.

You may be a good 'guy', but your attitude is sophomoric and your knowledge of subject matter is truly and ridiculously sophistic.

An embarassment to this site, a child among adults, your writings are. Sorry, but someone had to say it.

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I often don't like what Desidero writes, but I think you're going quite a bit overboard there.

In fact, Desidero's one of the few people I can give the high compliment to that I'm completely unable to predict where he'll go next with his thoughts. He makes me think even when I disagree with him, probably especially when I disagree with him.

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Thanks. No charm in being boring, eh? ;-)

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NewsNag. No offence, but... you're still shit on a stick. It's just not washin' off, is it?

Sorry, somebody had to say it.

Glad I got to be the one.

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I can't make it through that mass of words you call a 1st paragraph.

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And, Nag, tell us how you really feel? Sheesh.

Give the poor guy a break, he's still dripping wet from that Rubicon crossing.

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Good comment. However bright it may be, it's user-unfriendly. And that's a serious issue.

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