Memorial Day: Remember Those Who Fought (for our right to torture)
So waiting in the dark for a bang-up good time, to share one of my favorite movies, holding back my laughter so I could look over and see my girl laughing too, except something went horribly wrong - she was crying. I asked her what the matter was, and she looked at me and said, "That's how it was. My whole time growing up." See, I'd forgotten that she was from behind the Iron Curtain, that for her these nudge-nudge-wink-winks weren't nudge-nudge-wink-winks, they were her boyfriend getting fingers broken by the secret police, they were her parent pulled from a job and forced to work on a farm commune, they were people tossed out of school for the wrong comments, there were pressures every day to wave the flag at the right time, to wear the right scarf, to show the right support for the party, to not say anything that could and would be used against you, in a court of law or otherwise.
I've met some interesting people along the way - went to school with children of German rocket scientists, met the guy who interviewed Pol Pot last, hung out a bit with a Vietnamese guy who spent a year walking across Cambodia as a kid to escape to freedom, meaning Thai refugee camps for a year before release to America. I know a Southerner whose life ambition was to spit on Sherman's grave, but who couldn't do it because there were women and children buried there. An Italian friend still tells me about his Uncle Looie, a soldier who was placed in a POW camp in Mississippi, who to his dying day remembered and was grateful for how well he was treated, how much he came to love America. Those German kids, I don't recall thinking how maybe they were a Fifth Column, still wanting to sabotage like Germany's Operation Werewolf after the war, even though we jokingly played world domination before Risk became popular. That Vietnamese kid, maybe he was expecting years of work ahead, but I somehow can't imagine his father setting him on an escape route that led to the values we now think are values. How many water boardings would Uncle Looie or Student Pham have needed to end their love affair with America permanently? One? Two? A dozen? Those hundreds of thousands of Southern soldiers after the war, especially ones kept in the horrible camps at Andersonville [okay, Rock Island for the Southerners] - how were they rehabilitated to not pose a threat to the Union?
Nelson Mandela fought his country's occupiers, oppressors, with every bone in his body, and after 21 years of incarceration still refused easy release unless unconditional, delaying his eventual freedom by 9 years. Kenyatta had a similar story in Kenya, writing his opus, "Suffering without Bitterness" after his release, while Gusmao from East Timor has disavowed his Marxism as an understandable mistake, and the actions of America against him unfortunate but still understandable. We are in talks with Cuban leaders who we have fought in words and proxy wars for 40 years, partners in incarceration now with a Libyan who bombed our troops and brought down an airliner, partners in government with Iraqis who can easily shift over to anti-American insurgency at any moment and who carry decidedly un-American values, partners with China and Russia in helping them keep a lockdown on Xinjiang (home of the Uyghurs) and Chechnya, while running military exercises with those who threatened to obliterate us for 40 years.
Yet here we are, scared of a few Arabs and Pashtuns from the field - many of them Uncle Looies, caught up in what seemed like a good cause (and defending your religion and homeland have been "good cause" for all of our history), and while certain that while murderers can eventually be paroled if they tame enough pigeons and read the Bible and say Hail Maries often enough, these Muslims are simply unrepentant, superhuman killing machines who pose a danger in anything less than Krypton-sealed enclosures. Despite all the sworn enemies who now sit down with us at State Dinners and UN Conferences at Davos, we seem to have identified a class of people who are too dangerous for American values, requiring an asterysk in the Constitution just as Roger Maris needed one in the baseball rulebook so long ago.
In some ways it's too bad we fought World War II, because it indeed was the most selfless military act we've ever done, followed by the Marshall Plan, the most selfless humanitarian act we've ever done. It's a long climb down from that mountain, but we seem to have rappelled it rather rapidly, so that now we're back to a rather glibly defined model of civilization where indefinite detention, disappearing, and drowning are simply collaterals of never-ending warfare, not just something they do "over there". Seems like we could just annex Venezuela under our newfound "morality". Exactly what problem would Mr. Obama have with the Argentinian Junta's actions during the Dirty War - secreting protesters off to football stadiums, the beatings and other torture, the indefinite detentions in solitary or small groups, eyes gauzed shut, or only the drop from helicopters? Or even that?
Certainly our soldiers have committed atrocities in the field during all of our wars - those in the Mexican-American War perhaps being the worst, and while only a few are revealed to condemn now, we can still say that they're part of the field of battle, that there is a certain amount of condemnation whatever the expediency. The Toledo reports, Mai Lai, the ones from Korea, along with ones committed against US troops. That we hide the WWII atrocities and don't parade them gives an idea of their unacceptability, even in the face of Hitler and his madmen.
But now? Never before have we had such luxuries that we used as excuses. Here we have the civilians behind the Washington generals fighting a non-critical police/occupation action with relatively little loss of life compared to the millions of civilians killed in Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia and WWII, and yet we've upped the ante for these soft puffy-handed "strategists" so they can dumb down the definition of torture just to make their lack of ability and creative intellectual resources acceptable.
Once upon a time, we had soldiers in Korea when a million Chinese came across the border, and they had the horrible luck of survival and fight back at whatever cost, that "oh shit" moment I can only barely imagine. We had troops who for months fought their way across Northern Africa and up the Italian peninsula and got dropped suicidally on a beach underneath cliffs, fighting for any toehold under horrendous fire power. We had troops who island hopped across the Pacific, fighting brutal battles, suffering torture and death marches and horrible prison camp conditions. We had troops stuck in Vietnam, fighting a confused mission to preserve colonialism and fight off communism at the same time, with no obvious moral certainty but the order to persevere with no end goal. We've had troops on a myriad of missions, from bringing order to Bosnia and Haiti, to rescuing hostages in Iran, to small missions in Somalia and Grenada and Panama, to background actions in Angola and 1979's Afghanistan, the Berlin rescue, the Soviet overflights, the background operations in others' turf wars, and now we have the military carrying out the politically-bastardized US goals in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan. We know the difference between when the stakes were critical, when the pressures were overwhelming, the potential repercussions enormous and the time for decisions non-existent, as well as when the operations were simply routine or difficult, with breathing room to spare. We shouldn't confuse the two, especially now that we know to train our soldiers not just in split-second reaction, but more and more in split-second judgment, tied into information systems and webs of shared insight. We can't grow up and remain as children at the same time. Our modern warfare creates abilities and potentials that didn't exist before, more and more college-educated soldiers, tech-savvy enlisted, battle field simulations and psychological evaluations, of the enemy and ourselves. You can't scrunch down morals and human conscience within this framework and call it a day. They all go together - more responsibility and authority and capability means across the board. There's been some railing against "humanitarian missions" as if soldiers didn't always have non-soldierly tasks to help with - from the far outposts of Rome building aqueducts for civilians to guaranteeing resources for catastrophe-endangered areas, to prevent revolt if nothing else. Killing in the battle field is only one of the soldier requirements throughout all of history.
Being a professional force, our military doesn't have the luxury of rationalizing the mission. Any thinking person knows that sometimes we'll get it wrong, sometimes right, but the men or women in the field will need to kill, destroy, rebuild, help, whether they would personally loathe or love the designated enemy or ally. Patton wanted to overrun Russia, MacArthur wanted to take it to China - both were removed. The generals that opposed our folly in Iraq were removed. It's civilian rule, and it's up to civilians to elect wise leaders, remove unwise ones, and keep up wise pressure in any case. It's a peculiar instinct to enjoy your job under these kind of perverse pressures, and I applaud those who keep it up. I'm saddened by the increased politicization and polarization of the military, including where military leaders have let themselves be dragged into these partisan lines. The choice between engaging and abstaining and in what way is seldom clear cut, and our romance with blood on the movie screen doesn't translate very well to real life. I'm horrified by the tens of thousands of maimed and psychologically scarred veterans that have come home in the last 8 years that have been relegated to anonymity. We have a quasi-war with no parades, no homecomings, no recognition, no battles, no markers, just an endless movement of troops, small newspaper articles of minor engagements, with theories and strategies and rationales and justifications, and a faceless enemy that we haven't quite defined. I don't know how the troops do it, though it seems the number of suicides shows one way out. I went through an airport the other day and was amazed by the thousands of soldiers moving through - been a while for me in an airport, but I've never seen a 10th as many soldiers on travel. "Nothing special, just weekend leave, moving around", they told me. I guess. With $12 billion or so a month on war spending, troop movement is just one of the signs. But where does it end? Our leaders just declare, "prolonged detention" and a country-hopping strategy that makes the Domino Theory look super sane by comparison.
I had a conversation with a Dutch Jew the other day, with him telling me about his time in the Israeli military facing down the Hezbollah. "You can't understand until you've been there", he told me. A dangerous conceit. Of course I don't understand water boarding quite until I try it, as a few surprised conservative commentators have done lately. I don't quite understand space travel because I haven't been there. I don't quite understand issues particular to women because I'm not a woman. I don't understand a shell fired toward my position exactly, but I understand a bit about fear, a bit about danger, a bit about right and wrong. I can come close through various mental and physical exercises, if I choose to try to understand. One of the great attributes of humans is their ability to empathize, make analogies, generalize and synthesize rather than just rationalize and divide, to understand what doesn't quite exist for them.
222 years ago, we came up with a Constitution that surprised - from its conciseness and clarity, from its concern about citizen rights (partly pasted on 2 years later with the Bill of Rights), from its civilian government and disavowal of monarchies and relegating of the military to a subservient, supporting role, of its balanced nature that rests on 3 competing and cooperating branches of government, as well as a public that stays engaged, that has relatively equal claim to redress of grievances on all levels. While I don't believe the Constitution explicitly addresses a free press [okay, it does guarantee it, my bad], the support for free speech certainly supports it, and citizen pamphlets and newsletters were certainly important in the run up to and aftermath of American Independence. It is this Constitution that the President is sworn to uphold, as are all members of the military. Take a moment to peruse this oath if you've never seen it:
The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)
While the Constitution may be flawed, in many ways it's possibly the best we've done so far on a large practical and long-lasting scale to express our balance of compassion and independence, of freedom and security, of encoding lofty human values into a practical living document. And I commend those who support this ideal even and especially if they choose to help improve it through the glorious art of non-combative argumentation, presuming they actually hope to improve it, whatever their opinions.
So in honor of Monday's holiday, to remember those who have died or been wounded for the American cause and those who have fought and continue to fight for it, this is my long and convoluted way of saying thanks, that I think we're supporting the same values, the same causes, the same primacy of human conscience, that with my many degrees I don't look down at your work as lesser, just as I don't look at my bosses with only a high school degree as unworthy - that we all come to our tasks with different perspectives and preparation, and the main issue is performance where it counts. And while I value the military work, I understand it as one piece of the American mosaic that expresses similar issues of God, duty, country, honor, mission, on all levels. That unless we do our jobs as civilians, even as a loyal opposition where necessary, you can't do your job as the military, and in the reverse. We reflect on each other. The last time an empire successfully represented itself through its military was Rome, and we're 2000 years past those values by now. So to our brave and hard-working civilian military, hats off.
Portia:
The Merchant Of Venice Act 4, scene 1, 180-187
The quality of mercy is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
PS - re-reading this I don't mean to make anything less of the dangers in Iraq - extremely dangerous roadside and barricade car checks, scouting expeditions in Anbar designed to draw fire (i.e. at some poor soldier's head) as much as anything, and a variety of other hazards from Iraq to Afghanistan to Pakistan. For many, every day means risking life or a lifetime of painful injury, and while the manslaughter in our larger engagements may have been much greater, that doesn't make dangers in individual actions less perilous, whatever the war.
















Profound.
May 23, 2009 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Desidero, this is a really thoughtful and thought provoking piece. I am a bit torn, as I imagine many others are, about the levels of responsibility of the individual in uniform for their actions under orders. I fully agree, that it is the public (and actually those in the military are also part of that public) which is ultimately responsible for the actions and choices of our elected leaders. War is a political decision.
Those who serve in uniform do not choose the theater or the strategy. They do not choose their orders. On the other hand, even troops have the right and responsibility to refuse illegal orders. Of course there is a personal cost for refusing those orders. One could argue that one has to know what the laws are to determine a legal vs illegal order. From what I have heard, many of those called up for the "war on terrorism" have been shorted on such things as the application of the Geneva Convention. That increases the weight on the scale of political responsibility.
I read somewhere long ago that some huge percentage of those who fought in WWI never fired a shot (something like 90%). When it came to actually shooting at the enemy, many just could not do it. In light of this, military training changed. I have no idea what the current percentages are, and how "effective" training is at depersonalizing the "enemy." Regardless of "improved" training methods in this regard, many of those who serve eventually come "home." Many of them come home with unseen, and often unremarked, wounds from their service. They come back to "civil" society, and many struggle with both the experience and the training they received.
The public, who is the final watchdog on the politician and our policies, do not bear this burden of memory. This is where projects such as Winter Soldier become critically important. This is why the open presentations of actions taken to insure our security become critically important. For if the public does not know the costs of decisions, there is no way to be the watchdogs we must be. And if we abdicate that responsibility, then more troops are deployed, and more wars fought, and more civilians bear the human and social costs of those wars.
May 23, 2009 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Masterpiece Des. A question occurred to me regarding the military oaths sworn, which perhaps one of our commentators in the military or otherwise familiar with military training can answer. In our modern day workplaces, where job training and documentation has become paramount in demonstrating an employer's good faith in meeting regulatory requirements as well a means of avoiding liability claims, are our enlisted men and commissioned officers receiving training in the precepts of the constitution and is that training adequate, and documented? I visited a free online study guide for US army personnel, but the curricula seemed pretty basic.
May 23, 2009 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Very well done!
One correction for you: Andersonville was the notorious Confederate prison camp. Southern soldiers were not put there and there was no northern equivalent to that barbaric place. This is from the website:
Andersonville Prison (Camp Sumter)
Camp Sumter, commonly called Andersonville, was one of the largest military prisons established by the Confederacy during the Civil War. In existence for 14 months, over 45,000 Union soldiers were confined at the prison. Of these, almost 13,000 died from disease, poor sanitation, malnutrition, overcrowding, and exposure to the elements. The largest number held in the 26½-acre stockade at any one time was more than 32,000, during August of 1864. Today the beauty of the prison site belies the suffering that once took place inside the stockade.
National Prisoner of War Museum
The 1970 legislation responsible for establishing Andersonville National Historic Site instructed the site "to interpret the role of prisoners-of-war camps in history" and "to commemorate the sacrifice of Americans who lost their lives in such camps." To that end, the exhibits in the National Prisoner of War Museum serve as a memorial to all American prisoners of war. The museum opened in 1998 and is dedicated to the American men and women who have suffered as POWs.
Also, I visit Sherman's grave quite often and may do so today. He and a few family members are buried together. Among them are his beloved son Willie who died at a tender age during the war much to the unending grief of both his parents though such child deaths were quite common during those times. He remains one of the great heroes of our nation whose memory, like that of the great Ulysses S. Grant has been smeared by southern revisionsim. Sherman was second only to Grant as a hero in the United States after the war for good reason and despite the distorted stories responded only in kind to treasonous behavior and actions during the entire time the Armies he led were liberating the south and the slaves. I highly recommend people read Sherman's memoirs for a better understanding of just what he and his armies did and why.
May 23, 2009 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Rock Island probably should have been on my mind.
Whether Sherman was smeared by revisionism, that's questionable - his scorched earth policy, a swath a hundred miles wide through the South, was not likely to endear him to the conquered. In terms of wanton destruction of civilian property, it's pretty unparalleled in history.
May 23, 2009 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's simply untrue to say that about Sherman or the famous march which was quite necessary in order to put down the rebellion. Absent is any detail of the sabotage, terrorism, land mines (called torpedoes at the time) and other acts by traitors against the United States that required him to subdue those in rebellion and put down the armed attempt to destroy the USA. Sherman did nothing that wasn't warranted by circumstances to subdue the enemy and such "wanton" (which it wasn't) destruction is dwarfed by many other military actions throughout history. The purpose of Sherman's march was to disable the war fighting capacity of the traitors and that meant taking out the supplies and destroying the sources of support for the war effort of the rebels almost all of which was supplied by the farms and businesses he expropriated and in some cases destroyed. Neither Sherman nor his army destoyed randomly or without cause and all that was documented at the time and can be verified even today. That those who rose up against the United States would whine about actually having to pay the price for their rebellion as though they were innocent victims speaks volumes of them and their character. Sherman took no joy in doing what he did, but never apologized for defending the union. Those claiming victimhood never offer an apology for their treason or their attacks upon US forces. I'd say they got as good as they gave.
May 23, 2009 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thoroughly one-sided viewpoint.
May 23, 2009 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes it is. The side of patriots and the side of freedom. The other side is the side of treason, slavery and lies.
May 24, 2009 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
acts by traitors
I love this "shorter" version of "The War of Northern Aggression" aka "The War Between the States" aka "The War of Southern Rebellion" aka "The Civil War".
In keeping with the recent renaming perpetrated by the Republicans upon the Democratic Party, perhaps we can now require that all momuments to the CSA be buffed out and re-inscribed as what they are--the memorialization of a foul treason undertaken to defend the practice of slavery.
May 23, 2009 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you imagine the South as Chechnya and the North as Russia, or more germane, the North continuing the British' traditional repression of the South's Scottish and Irish, perhaps you can expand your worldview to acknowledge that those who think they're on a mission from God are often the most blinded and misguided and cruelest.
How exactly do you justify the fire bombing of Dresden? Obviously the Germans were in the moral wrong, so we could do anything we wanted to its citizens, correct? The Algerians tried to secede from France - and lost something like 1.5 million for their "treason", considering Algeria was an integral part of France.
While slavery was the major issue (and it should be noted that it was the northern states that started this practice in the first place - as one source notes: "In 1703, 42 percent of New York's households had slaves, much more than Philadelphia and Boston combined. Among the colonies' cities, only Charleston, South Carolina, had more." Massachusetts started its African slave trade in 1624 to go along with its Indian slaves, and was the first state to legalize slavery (Connecticut was second). Virginia actually tried to ban the slave trade in the mid-1600's but was prohibited by its British masters - slave trade was banned by all the colonies within 3 years of independence, with unfortunately a window of 20 years that let the South greatly expanded it after the cotton gin.
Now, I can't quite recall any Northerners taming their criticism of the South with their own guilt in helping start the practice (oh wait, I guess I just did, if I can be considered a Northerner), and I don't recall Northerners extending their harsh attitudes towards Southerners to the British as well, who managed to carry on a much larger slave trade in the Caribbean.
And I'm sure the United States was a very moral nation concerned about human rights in the early 1800's as they stole Florida, Texas, and most of the West from Spain/Mexico in brutal wars, as they drove the Indians out of the south onto reservations, as they continued to wipe out Western natives up to the end of the 1800's with guns, whiskey, intentionally delivered smallpox, and wiping out the Native American's means of subsistence, done so well that Hitler used it as a fine example of genocide in Mein Kampf. [Curiously enough, we would have invaded further south into Mexico, but any new territory would have been south of the Mason-Dixon, thus would have entered as slave states, a tip in balance the Northerners couldn't stomach no matter how much Guadalajara called].
There, there's your Northern honor and self-righteousness in a nutshell. Too bad 150 years after that horrible war people haven't absorbed the horrid lessons for all to see, that as a growing nation we were full of some of the worst tendencies and vanities as a whole, not just the South. Instead, it seems we as a nation just swallowed another myth, the infallible US as projected by the morally superior North. Yum, that's a tasty squalid diet.
May 24, 2009 6:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Des, you are an amazing writer; I marveled at how you put this all together, and I am so glad you wrote it because I got to read it. I can't make a comment that will do it justice. I have a rather simple-minded question for you or anyone else:
Why do you think the term, "enemy" has been replaced by "bad guys," and do you think it has anything to do with military behavior? I've noticed that even police call people "bad guys" instead of "suspects," which seems wrong to me.
May 23, 2009 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too much Mad Magazine, Spy vs. Spy, Blofeld and James Bond, Clint Eastwood movies, Simon vs. Sweet Polly Purebred.
May 23, 2009 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
This a good piece but there something missing in the telling of this tale. There are/were men and women who fought for this country without being citizens or able to enjoy full citizenship. They receive no accolades and most of their lives are spent in this country with their citizenship is in limbo.
They are willing to go out and put their life on line for a country--see black soldiers in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars-- that tells them that this place isn't yours. Somehow fighting for a place not quite your country doesn't translate into the rights and responsibilities of citizenship.
This still happens today. In my book, if you are good enough to fight and sometimes die for us, you are better than good enough to live with us.
May 23, 2009 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your diary is very good, but the headline is not. This is, as you note, an important holiday, not because it marks the beginning of the summer, or presents opportunities for families and friends to eat barbecued food together (worthy as both are) but because we can remember so many men and women, so many just beginning their adult lives, who lost them for our collective well being.
They did not fight for the right to torture; many fought against just such things, and many were tortured for doing so including a recent presidential candidate. It was, almost completely, civilians in the national government who subverted what our nation stands for, and reduced our nation to nothing better than the worst regimes on earth.
To place even the slightest responsibility for those decisions on those who gave their lives for our freedom, and for our food name, is wrong.
May 23, 2009 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I agree.
May 23, 2009 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
That last sentence ought to have read, of course,
"To place even the slightest responsibility for those decisions on those who gave their lives for our freedom, and for our good name, is wrong."
May 23, 2009 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, but their memory and the military actions in general are used every day to tell people to just shut up, support our troops, support torture so our troops don't get hurt, support our latest foreign venture, and so on. So perversely, fighting and dying to preserve our freedoms becomes fighting and dying to preserve our unquestioning allegiance. Remember what happened when a private group had the audacity to question the veracity of a Washington general? Condemned by majority consensus of the Senate, and when that group of scalliwags gets together to condemn immorality, you know something's strange. Less time pretending to understand morality, more time supporting the Constitution would be my preference.
May 23, 2009 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said.
May 23, 2009 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
A fine Memorial Day exposition.
Something I can come back to and reread and think about.
May 23, 2009 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I cried during "Brazil" too, it was absurd but too harrowing to be funny. The ending an abyss into the depths of despair.
This should have been a Memorial Day for us to be thankful for putting Cheney and Bush behind us, if not behind bars. Instead, Cheney's front and center, devoid of a shred of dignity, yet strangely winning the debate, no forceful denunciation of his dark regime, no applause-worthy repudiation by Obama. Instead, it's "the Left" that's divided and conquered, our positions more "fanatical" than ever.
May 23, 2009 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
C'Ville, imo? For the same reason that "torture" is now "enhanced interrogation technique" -- sanitizing, and "humanizing" the actual horror by using euphemisms as well as by alluding to the technique rather than the act itself. "Bad guys" rather than "enemy" takes that one step further, implying if they are bad, we must be "good" ... right?
Desidero, I am gobsmacked by what you have written -- not only in terms of factual content (with the exception of the Andersonville reference) and skillful, informed analysis, but also -- and I mean this sincerely -- in its sincerity.
I have been reading you for a year. This is the first time, in that time (as far as I know) that you've allowed us a glimpse of what you feel as well as what you think.
I like the man behind the mask of weary sophistication and/or cynicism. Just so you know -- thank you.
May 23, 2009 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know what? We went to a film, maybe the same one, with someone who had endured growing up like that. And we had to leave the theater. The person got a migraine! Just like that! We had to leave. It was that powerful an effect!
Thanks for this stunning post!
I second Wendy above. Give us more of yourself! In marvelous posts like this!
May 23, 2009 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another true fact:
Years ago, Mr. TheraP had to walk on Franco's grave!
May 23, 2009 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Was he still dead?
May 23, 2009 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup! And still is!
Years ago, I used to imagine he'd die and they'd stuff him, like el Cid!
May 23, 2009 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've linked to your post, because so many of your descriptions indicate that Americans have not been fraidy cats till bushco tried to make them!
May 23, 2009 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Outstanding Desidero !
May 23, 2009 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent, nothing to add.
May 23, 2009 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amendment 1 to the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Freedom of the press is mentioned.
May 23, 2009 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, my bad, would've taken an extra 10 seconds to search for "press".
May 24, 2009 4:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome narrative, Des, and too true.
I salute the majority of young men and women, children really, who go to serve with sincere intentions, but not the men who perpetrate indefensible slaughter with the excuse that they are the ones on the wall, following orders, doing the dirty work that must be done to protect our peacefully sleeping children.
But Des, you forgot to mention that all war and conflict before September 2001 was developed under a different paradigm. 9/11 changed everything, didn’t it?
Perhaps not. If we cover up our atrocious actions, covert and overt, of these last eight years, as we have time and again, the only purpose it will serve is to prolong the same FP course of domination and repression we have been on for half a century into the foreseeable future (or until we go the way of all corrupt empires).
From Harold Pinter’s Nobel acceptance speech (2005):
May 23, 2009 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, most everyone's gonna love your post Des, so it's probably the right one for me to disagree with. Truth is, I didn't quite know what to do with this post. I agreed with whole long stretches of it, and then... kinda fell off the wagon somewhere.
I think I get the link you're making between insane leaders pumping up the fear about these particular Terrorists, way beyond our many previous foes. And how they then justified betraying the Constitution using that nonsense. And how they used the troops and a load of high-sounding hooey to justify the dark arts.
But I guess I feel there's a missing middle chapter in the story of the "long climb down from that mountain." Say, 1950-2000. And how we read it, changes a lot. Including the punchline paragraphs of your piece. To start with the bloody edge, actually we didn't really have much of a problem with that Argentinian Junta. Nor the Chilean, nor Iranian, nor Vietnamese, nor dozens of others. Our leaders knew full well of these activities, and often supported them with training, guns, money, media. The fact that this chapter keeps getting skipped is part of what led to today's morass.
I agree that somehow, out of the Depression and WW2, an ideal came to be held, very strongly, by large numbers of people. A good ideal, in my books. And people talked about it, felt it, and acted on it. A powerful, positive, chapter.
But later on, certain leaders knew that in order to get around their own people, they would have to operate in the shadows, often through intermediaries. But it was a big, and dark, shadow. A lot of bodies in there, tortured or executed or bombed. Many people knew it existed, average citizens included. But the questioners couldn't ever really win the day, drag it fully out into the light, though many efforts were made - the decades fighting McCarthy, Vietnam, Nixon, the Church Ctee and so on.
Which puts Cheney-Bush - and Obama's task - in a different light. Cheney-Bush made a play to take these methods in-house, with direct public funding, sometimes even publicly justifying them. They took the shadow world developed for "over there"... and attempted to "bring it on home." Through the Patriot Act, giant colored scare-o-meters, wire-taps. Old Junta fear flicks, now playing at a theatre nearer you.
So the long climb down the mountain didn't begin with W's arrival. If you look at the 30 year biographies of W Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Negroponte, Colin Powell, Gates, Porter Goss - they were all deeply implicated in what happened "over there," for decades. They knew this shadow world of torture, execution etc. was part of the American arsenal. And they were already used to justifying it, operating it, profiting from it - and had done so for decades.
You wonder how we could fall so far, so fast? Well, for starters, it wasn't in one rapid drop. Rummy and Cheney were learning the ropes, from all the way back to their days under Nixon, through Reagan to W Bush. Negroponte and Goss were wining and dining some of the worst of our Latin American hitmen from the 60's through the 80's and onward. Gates wanted to bomb the living hell out of Nicaragua and lied his way out of Iran-Contra. Powell's bullshit/cowardice was apparent from Mai Lai on. And the Bush clan? Those assholes have been in it for generations.
They didn't create new prisons or torture techniques, they just brought them home. If this middle chapter is seen, it's easier to see the problems Obama faces, and we face, in rooting this out, making sure it "never happens again." Bushco - and torture - wasn't an anomaly. They've been with us on the climb, and the descent, all along. They have their stories and tools and rope-lines and support camps. They have their frontmen and their planners and their hit-men and their dupes.
And yes, they even have their officers and soldiers. Which is the stinger in the tail of this comment. I was raised to think about war and causes... and soldiers... in the particular. And I'm from a family with roots in the military going back about as far as you can go. But they never had much time for rah-rah, and no time at all for "honor and glory" talk. We're talking about death here, and anyone that wants to gloss over that, well... 'nuff said.
So when I read phrases like shared values and common causes and the primacy of conscience - immediately after outlining recent pretty awful events, and some of this shit is ongoing, Des - it bothers me. Sure, you mentioned some Generals who got stepped on for speaking out. Others, however, stepped up and signed on. And surprise! Some just got promotions! Am I supposed to go shoe-polishing them and talking about our shared values? Same with our various political leaders. Boy, there's just been a rush of conscience happening there. Ditto the reporters. I'm glad one's been waterboarded, but I'm interested in SERE training for a batch more. Same with we voters and civilians. What we have done or failed to do is producing a lot of death. But taking this stance also mean, and I really do think this is important, including our soldiers. I'm just not interested in talk about heroism and selflessness and honor and glory somehow automatically accruing to anyone who straps on the uniform.
Real memory involves particulars. Particular individuals and actions and causes and motivations, each with their own mix of light and shadow. The enlistment oath you included requires judgment and discernment from the soldier. Not all did equally well in that. Not all supported "the same values, the same causes, the same primacy of human conscience." Yeah, I think it was that sentence that got caught in my craw.
Memory and Memorials are great. But memory without shadows is just a high gloss paint job.
May 23, 2009 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
First, I stated, "I'm saddened by the increased politicization and polarization of the military, including where military leaders have let themselves be dragged into these partisan lines," which may be a bit light, but I'm already pissing on Memorial Day quite a bit, or at least lighting some candles that are usually snuffed out. Yes, there are generals and others who have actively tried to take us off the deep end, to bastardize what service means, the Ollie North types included who tried to create their own mini-governments. I still think they're in the minority, but that's not to dismiss their effect or their guilt in this moral quagmire.
I think you know I've written quite a lot about the atrocities, including the private material I've sent you. The School of the Americas, our active support of some of the worst thugs in Latin America - it's not pretty. But I also still don't think of it as "the military" in the way say that the Argentinian Junta and on down the officer corps was fully behind the methods of the Dirty War, including officers perversely secretly adopting the babies of disappeared "radicals". I do blame people in the military for letting themselves get politicized, by participating in the disrespect for "draft dodger" Clinton and all the exaggerated spin points that made it all the easier for their support to be assumed and co-opted in the post-9/11 diversions and excesses. I don't know if they'll ever shed the snake-oil they were sold in the 90's, but I think they're pretty actively trying to scour off the stink of the Bush years, knowing full well that they've taken the deepest hurt of the "Bush Policy".
So yes, I think we're still agreeing, that this shadow world that should have been smaller was at least kept hidden until the last 8 years, and now it's being paraded around like it's a virtue - quite disgusting. But I don't blame that on the military - I blame it on our domestic political scene, including the weakness of the Democrats who can't seem to stand up against wrong, but instead pipe up "me too" as if that will somehow draw someone's support and respect. And that excludes Russ Feingold, Chris Dodd, Jim Webb, John Murtha and a few others who have taken some unpopular stances in trying to stanch the absurdities.
May 24, 2009 5:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Curiously enough, we would have invaded further south into Mexico, but any new territory would have been south of the Mason-Dixon, thus would have entered as slave states
alas, this is not accurate--Mexico had abolished slavery in its new constitution (leading to dissatisfaction amoungst the slave-holders of Tejas, with resulting hi-jinks, country music, the Alamo, and SXSW.)
Also, of course, we did go all the way into Mexico--we just gave back everything we didn't want.
More to the point, Calhoun the Paladin of Slavery, rose in the Senate to express his alarm at the prospect of millions of brown voters.
"To incorporate Mexico, would be the very first instance of the kind, of incorporating an Indian race; for more than half of the Mexicans are Indians, and the other is composed chiefly of mixed tribes. I protest against such a union as that! Ours, sir, is the Government of a white race"
Perhaps you wish to rethink your speculations in re:Southern v. Northern motivations and Mexico.
May 27, 2009 3:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Could have gone in farther. New territory would have been slave because south of Mason-Dixon, but you're possibly right, a lack of desire for brown voters might have trumped territory gains, but why then didn't that stop us in say New Mexico? More sparsely populated than Chihuahua?
May 27, 2009 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
More sparsely populated than Chihuahua?
Yes.
May 27, 2009 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink