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Laughing at Who's Expense?: Retro Fun
Looking at Politico's report about Richardson's somewhat controversial corporate-funded air travel, I was thinking I hadn't heard any complaints about his campaign debt before, so I traipsed down memory lane to note that Bill was leaving some small vendors hanging in the lurch back in May and still in June, but the weird thing is I don't remember anyone complaining about it, and I'm sure people would have noticed, because they all stick up for the little people when chips are down.
Lessee, another report today that the GOP spent $180,000 on Sarah's clothes plus another $100K on her hair dresser and other staff. So say $300K total. Which compared to the $10 million she helped McCain raise in 3 days and perhaps another $50-80 million she helped raise over a couple of months (say thank you, Saxby Chambliss) probably isn't a bad return. Maybe we can send Henry Paulson over to ask her how to get a better deal for the $700 billion we put down.
Politico also notes Obama's brought in 20 or so of his Harvard friends to help with the transition, which starts to moot the idea that the Chicago Machine would run the new show, as well as once more lower expectations that the new government will be packed with people from outside the traditional corridors of power.
There's some suspicion that Caroline Kennedy may be appointed to fill in the soon-to-be-open New York Senate seat, which funny enough is how Uncle Ted, who she interned with, got his start in the Senate. I'm waiting for the columns to appear to decry the Dynasty and her lack of relevant experience, though at least she can't be called much of a carpetbagger, having lived in Manhattan for some time. It remains to be seen whether her well-known designer husband can be controlled and will not interfere with her new career. Having designed the Pope John Paul II Center there is some concern about a conflict of interest (though Carolyn's father seems to have defused this in his race for the President), and there will undoubtedly be some interesting revelations when the pair comes to divulge their rather mixed and diverse income from multiple well-known and lesser-known sources.
Lessee, another report today that the GOP spent $180,000 on Sarah's clothes plus another $100K on her hair dresser and other staff. So say $300K total. Which compared to the $10 million she helped McCain raise in 3 days and perhaps another $50-80 million she helped raise over a couple of months (say thank you, Saxby Chambliss) probably isn't a bad return. Maybe we can send Henry Paulson over to ask her how to get a better deal for the $700 billion we put down.
Politico also notes Obama's brought in 20 or so of his Harvard friends to help with the transition, which starts to moot the idea that the Chicago Machine would run the new show, as well as once more lower expectations that the new government will be packed with people from outside the traditional corridors of power.
There's some suspicion that Caroline Kennedy may be appointed to fill in the soon-to-be-open New York Senate seat, which funny enough is how Uncle Ted, who she interned with, got his start in the Senate. I'm waiting for the columns to appear to decry the Dynasty and her lack of relevant experience, though at least she can't be called much of a carpetbagger, having lived in Manhattan for some time. It remains to be seen whether her well-known designer husband can be controlled and will not interfere with her new career. Having designed the Pope John Paul II Center there is some concern about a conflict of interest (though Carolyn's father seems to have defused this in his race for the President), and there will undoubtedly be some interesting revelations when the pair comes to divulge their rather mixed and diverse income from multiple well-known and lesser-known sources.
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In other campaign funding news, it cost $720 million to win the presidency this time. What was that I read recently about a consumption economy and culture?
December 5, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's supposed to drive the economy and lift all boats. What happened?
December 5, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed! Think maybe Axelrod outsourced the TV ad production or something?
On another front, I wonder if Sarah looked for the union label when she was shopping was at Saks.
December 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, so how much consumerist garbage did that $720 mill buy?
IIRC, most of it went to advertising, salaries, wages, and overhead for campaign offices.
So ... maybe they spent a mill or two, or ten, on tchochkes. Which also served to allow the recipients to contribute to consumer spending after they paid for rent, groceries, healthcare and transportation(just like campaign staff and media employees).
I can't argue that consumerism is a problem in this country and the developed and developing world, but like leeches for influenza, amputating consumer spending will effectively make the cure worse than the disease.
Know what I mean?
December 5, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
You Consistency Hunters are as bad as the Conspiracy Theorists.
Fortunately, fewer of you.
P.S. Might wanna lay back for a while though. I'm thinking of flipping my positions on a whole lot of things. I intend to blame circumstances, history and the economy. That should cover me.
December 5, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or to quote Repo Man, society did it.
And no, I'm an N-Consistency Hunter in an N-Dimensional Universe with N Co-Existing Truths. If that's what you're N Sinuating.
December 5, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
as bad as the Conspiracy Theorists
Grateful for small favors on that front, at least this time, we've got a Harvard man instead of a Yalie, so we don't have to be subjected to that old tiresome fav, Skull and Bones.
Ok, so Skull and Bones is out, but I see Obama has already picked plenty of close confreres who have attended Bilderberg Group conferences:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_attendees#United_States
So I could see something along the lines of he was initiated on his German campaign trip. Depends on how sophisticated your conspiracist, I guess, some still believe white men rule the new world order, other see a colorblind ruling elite.
Here's a start:
Obama a Mason of the Prince Hall Lodge?
And his links to The Carlyle Group? With the six degrees of separation rule, you can always find some for anyone. :-)
December 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Skull and bones.... that reminds me of Genghis! Oh, no! Six degrees and all that....
December 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some genealogy guy was arguing Obama is related to the Bushes, through his grandmother's side, and to original Mayflower arrivals. Also to Winston Churchill.
December 5, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, there you go! If he didn't make the mistake of going to Harvard, he'd have made Bonesman easy, no sweat! :-)
December 5, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll take the Bilderbergs over Skin 'n Bones any day. Teutonic rivalries, Ride of the Valkaries, Sturm und Drang - can't get enough. Back to Potsdammerplatz, wheelbarrows full of Deutschmarks. Life is a Kabaret, und Mackie die Messer, eh boys? Just a Drei Pfennig Opera. What comes next?
December 5, 2008 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lotte Lenya?
Dadada, maybe?
December 7, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember all the sturm and drang crap about Hillary's campaign debt?
Turns out she's not going to get back the $13.2 million she lent it, comes out of pocket, and she probably knew that. And she and Bill are doing things like a celeb horse and pony show and having her Mom email and beg people, to get the last $7.5 million before she starts at State so the vendor's don't get stiffed, because she can't do any fund raising for it after that.
December 5, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Biden just sent out a letter to Obama supporters asking for assistance. I always thought Obama would do more to help fundraise on Hill's behalf after the general election was over. The e-mail from Biden was a nice touch, but it would be nice to see Obama personally step up to the plate.
Of course the horse and pony show and book will be my merry christmas to me.
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=FKR3QU3dB0M
December 5, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I saw the whining about the Biden email in a recent reader blog post (there's sort of an Indian giver thing going on there, along the lines of "I gave you money expecting you to act a certain way, now if you're not going to do what I expect, give it back!") Sheesh, you'd think there be a little less naivete about politics from people who post here, that these Senators are not sworn death ray enemies of each other...never fails to amaze. Just wait till Obama, Biden, Clinton, work deals with McCain to get things done, I can just hear the screeching already....
December 5, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sharing a thought on the Clinton S.O.S. with you, think you might understand. I was thinking that it was actually very impressive how the Obama people and Clinton people managed to relatively quickly deal with all of the problems Bill Clinton's dealings presented to the appointment. That must have been a massive amount of negotiation with a lot of openess, and foresight about what possible problems could arise. It meant that both sides had to trust to do it that quickly, and be willing to offer ideas, outside the box, and set egos aside. The whole thing bodes real well to them being able to do a team approach to foreign policy and diplomacy that could really be fantastic, brainstorming galore.
December 5, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I still don't understand how whatever they did changed anything. So the Shah gives $2 billion publicly rather than privately. That changes what?
Glad they worked it out, but considering the existing corporate payouts directly to elected politicians, this "maybe she'll be influenced by the spouse" thing goes a bit far.
December 5, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does Hillary send out emails soliciting funds to her supporters? It seems like $1 or $2 from half of her 18 million supporters would take care of her debt. I'm just curious because I've never heard talk of her supporters donating like Obama's did to him. I don't mean to be snarky. I'm really just curious.
December 5, 2008 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know, I donated earlier, and then put in another couple hundred after she dropped out, kind of my "shut the Obama supporters up" effort. I don't know the exact dynamics of why she wasn't able to pay it off from her own supporters, except the obvious that, people are more likely to give money to a contender than to someone who's dropped out. Sympathy goes only so far, even for a Clinton. Perhaps there was some counterproductive talk from PUMAs as well that made it sound like her fundraising in June was going really well.
December 5, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
But FDRDog asked a good question: Is Hillary asking her 18,000,000 supporters to retire her debt like Obama/Biden are doing for her? Sure, people like to back the winner, but that isn't what we're talking about here. The winners are asking their supporters to retire the debt of their opponent, which is fine (and typically high-minded -- what if the shoe were on the other foot?); but is Hillary asking her supporters to pony up?
Her campaign went on long after she didn't have a mathematical chance of winning, but frankly I am glad it did; I think it forced Obama to have a stronger 50-state strategy and it worked well for him in the general, so I am glad Hillary kept spending on her campaign.
I have to say, though; this is a really tough time to be asking for money -- there isn't a lot of it laying around my house.
December 5, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course she's asking her supporters to help her retire the debt - a number of times.
December 6, 2008 3:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
They send out donation requests that are tied to specific campaigns (t-shirt, convention speech etc), but it's harder to get people to commit $ to satisfy a debt rather than an ongoing campaign. Plus many of her supporters started giving to Obama. I was giving to both. Also coming from the non-profit world, it takes time and effort and money to raise money - the fact that her campaign was in debt makes it harder to raise funds.
I gave to both, more to Obama thought my contribution on election night was my last, but then they pulled me back in. That's it though. I'm putting my foot down. :)
December 5, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
If she'd use the Greenpeace model and set up a separate "Not One Dime Will Go to Mark Penn" fund for contributions, she'd have the rest of her debts paid off by now. Its that 5.5 million dollar debt to his company that just makes a lot of people--both primary supporters and opponents--gag.
As for her and Bill's loans, I really don't think either of them will miss it. I mean that in a good way. I really don't think either of them are the kind of people to whom the difference between having forty million and having eighty million has meaning (God knows I've run into plenty of rich people who would think it a huge difference.)
December 5, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Penn has become the scapegoat for everything, but if that makes people happy, what the hey, he doesn't seem to mind.
No, I don't worry about Hillary paying the loan out of pocket, but then I also think that's a load she pulled, and don't expect she should have to pay the rest herself. She pulled the weight for a lot of people over the last year.
December 5, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
What "lots of other people" has she pulled weight for over the last year? Please be specific (and realistic) -- oh -- and honest.
December 5, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
18 million supporters, HillPac candidates, other Democratic candidates, Obama in the general election.
December 6, 2008 3:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
All right, it's been a while, but no one has mentioned it, you haven't edited it, so I'm going to be snippy and say "Whose", not "Who's".
December 6, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe it was a reference to Horton? ;-)
December 7, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink